Anjem Choudary, the man behind Islam4uk, wants to turn Buckingham Palace into a mosque, impose sharia law in the UK, and destroy Britain’s porn industry. We took him for a milkshake (his favourite is chocolate). Click through to watch a movie of our date.












Reader Comments
November 20th, 2009
Sign me up!
November 20th, 2009
He complains about death threats yet wants to kill all gay people. This is why imigration does not work, we have advanced our society yet we bring in people with 1000’s of year old views and allow them to vote…
November 20th, 2009
Ha ha ‘muslim scientists say likicking our fingers helps us digest our food’ and they’re all obese. Good to see the muslim scientists our focusing on the real issues. Also nothing pisses me off more than a muslim convert. I can understand being brainwashed by your family all your life but to actually go and look at islam as a good idea when you are a grown man shows mental illness
November 20th, 2009
You have to laugh really. These primitive people with primitive beliefs. The rest of the western world advanced over the last few thousand years, Islam chose to stay in the past. The only advancement they have is through the use of western trained scientists. And as the poster below states, you let these people into the country and allow them to vote on a country that they hate. They want all we have worked for and hate everything we are. We all know that if one of us set up a rally such as this, we’d be put in prison yet these little people preach this BS and we stand idly by and watch. Makes me sick.
November 20th, 2009
There is a problem with these guys, the BNP, extremist Christians and all people with beliefs formed on the basis of misinformation and an unquestioning attitude towards their respective ideologies. This problem becomes significant if groups of this nature are allowed to propagate their modus operandi to people who are at risk of weak mindedness (i.e young people, uneducated people etc).
It is also important to understand that all immigrants are not like this (and neither are all Muslims). A blanket “Out with all immigrants!” campaign is just absolutely ridiculous.
I dont think that people who share the views of “Islam4UK” should have a significant say in anything to do with the policies of the UK, but I think they are an important minority voice in in our society. The reason why they are important is because they raise questions to the rest of the population on issues such “the nature of belief”, “immigration policy”, “racism” etc which should be part of society’s discourse if we are to achieve a better understanding of ourselves and improve policy. If people where educated to think actively and critically, and their needs were tended to effectively by government, groups such as this will never gain any traction here.
November 20th, 2009
Just think in a few years time when muslims rule the country the Soham guy will have his own little harem. Jonathan King will have eye candy on his arm as he takes him shopping at Gap Kids.The leader of the gang himself will be No1 in the download charts with ‘Do you wanna touch me there’ complete with video of a hundred scantily clad 10 year olds on TV to promote it. If you worship at the feet of a pedophile prophet that’s what you will get apart from the smelly arse in front of you at prayer.
November 20th, 2009
Isn’t it ironic how they talk of how much they hate America and it’s occupation of “their land” yet they find no issues with drinking Coka Cola through the interview, one of the most famous America brands. They really have no idea do they. Go back to working in McDonalds you silly little people….
November 20th, 2009
Sweet. Nice cutting between two uneducated extremes. What is clear is that all radicalism may be diluted with chocolate milkshake - a subversive and subtle antidote to world domination. How is sex worse than sugar - one of them is free and surely less materialistic than, say, a chocolate habit…
November 20th, 2009
hahahahahahahaha ‘these three fingers release a chemical’ hahaha what an idiot
November 20th, 2009
I have a dream: that one day all muslims, christians, jews, atheists, racists, gays and homophobes will get together for a big mixed race bisexual orgy. Possibly involving pigs.
November 20th, 2009
They already do its called the Hajj
November 20th, 2009
“It is also important to understand that all immigrants are not like this (and neither are all Muslims). A blanket “Out with all immigrants!” campaign is just absolutely ridiculous.”
Not all muslims will take to the streets like this but I bet they would all come out with the same crap if you pushed them. Islam isnt like other religions, you don’t get the picking and choosing of bits like christianity(which is bullshit as well).
Also not all imigrants are like this I agree, but what can you do? Have a no muslim policy? Have a no strict muslim policy? I love the way they leave the countries that have sharia law and move to one that doesnt then moan about it and want to make our country as shite as the one they come from.
I am totally anti BNP yet the reason this party is gaining more and more followers is because the main parties are too scared to face up to the fact that imigration has failed and needs to be changed althought it’sfar too late. Islam is the most dangerous thing to have happened to the world
November 20th, 2009
I personally enjoyed watching this and found nothing they said to be horrendously outrageous. As someone who does not consider himself religious, I can see very little difference in their beliefs compared to some of the Christians I come across. I wouldn’t even say any of the views here were extremist other than that crazy white guy who converted.
November 20th, 2009
Hey G those three fingers are what muslims wipe there arse with.
November 20th, 2009
i think it’s important to note that this is not view of the muslim majority in the uk. there’ll always be extremists in the minority in all ‘groups’. another inetrpretation is that islam encourages muslims to adhere to, say, governement laws, living in a non-islamic country. please think before spouting ignorant rants at the whole of the muslim population in the uk.
November 20th, 2009
another dissatisfied muslim bet you covered your face while you wrote that.
November 20th, 2009
their not muslims their extreamists….
their disguise as a ligitamate political body is no better than that of the BNP!
November 20th, 2009
haha - did you know that if not covering the face draws LESS attention in society (i.e. again a non-islamic country), ANOTHER interpretation is that the face should not be covered.
November 20th, 2009
read to the left
November 20th, 2009
“i think it’s important to note that this is not view of the muslim majority in the uk. there’ll always be extremists in the minority in all ‘groups’. another inetrpretation is that islam encourages muslims to adhere to, say, governement laws, living in a non-islamic country. please think before spouting ignorant rants at the whole of the muslim population in the uk.”
So muslims dont belive gay people should be killed? Or that thieves hands should be cut off? So they dont believe in the Qur’an?
November 20th, 2009
What i would like to know about the muslim faith is this. Is it a fart that causes a stampede at the Hajj.
November 20th, 2009
jay - without going into a breakdown of what constitutes a person and their beliefs, i think it’s safe to say that on the whole it is perhaps impossible to wholly agree with one particular ideology yet it’s human nature to want to belong to a group of sorts, no? also, much of it is in context with the times. and i think it’s safe to say that neither you nor i are experts and have studied the qur’an.
as for killing gay people, i think you’ll find that you don’t have to be muslim to hold that view. and things such as cutting off the hands of a thief are meant to act as deterrents.
November 20th, 2009
i don’t think you’re supposed to pick and choose in other religions and/or political ideology etc etc but hey, people do, don’t they?
November 20th, 2009
the brainwashed has spoken
November 20th, 2009
aye. and you don’t think that ‘following’ trends and publications such as vice, you are not in some way brainwashed? we all are.
November 20th, 2009
All religion is child abuse and you fuckers have been brainwashed since birth. Kids in the UK rejected religion years ago and we all feel the better for it. That is why when we come up against people with religious views we take the piss out of them for not having the will to fight the brainwashing that their parents force on them. That applies to all the American nutters out there as well as the muslims and other religions.
November 20th, 2009
oh, yeah, you’re absolutely right, scumnation, hence the highest teenage pregnancy rates and lots of broken families? hurrah. progress.
November 20th, 2009
ALL religions, are about love, healing and self development as we go through life.
Anything more that is political junk and a distortion of the truth,
Christianity, Islam and Judaism believe in the SAME god.
Very funny Vice.. but you could use your power to educate people for a change!
Ignorance has never been cool.. Why shove only these extreme idiots in our faces?
November 20th, 2009
what the fuck has that got to do with religion muslims are the highest group for births
November 20th, 2009
I’ve got a brilliant idea- let’s tar all muslims with the same brush as a bunch of nutters. You get prats in any race, religion or colour as proven in history.
November 20th, 2009
thank you balance.
and yes, vice could have done something else but they are pretty knowing about the reactions, and therefore their objective has once again been met…
November 20th, 2009
Hippydom was all about peace and love and a good shag but the religious nutters in government waged war on it, so fuck
November 20th, 2009
“Very funny Vice.. but you could use your power to educate people for a change!
Ignorance has never been cool.. Why shove only these extreme idiots in our faces?”
What do you mean? These events actually happened… it’s a news piece, that’s how it works - stuff happens.. and it’s documented. Where in the film does it suggest otherwise?
Isn’t it a good thing that we’re seeing this? Would you prefer not to know about whats happening in your country?
Any idiot watching this under the impression that this is an all encompassing portrayal of Islamic ideologies has no right to comment.
November 20th, 2009
Jay
November 20th, 2009
12:18 pm
“It is also important to understand that all immigrants are not like this (and neither are all Muslims). A blanket “Out with all immigrants!” campaign is just absolutely ridiculous.”
Not all muslims will take to the streets like this but I bet they would all come out with the same crap if you pushed them. Islam isnt like other religions, you don’t get the picking and choosing of bits like christianity(which is bullshit as well).
Also not all imigrants are like this I agree, but what can you do? Have a no muslim policy? Have a no strict muslim policy? I love the way they leave the countries that have sharia law and move to one that doesnt then moan about it and want to make our country as shite as the one they come from.
I am totally anti BNP yet the reason this party is gaining more and more followers is because the main parties are too scared to face up to the fact that imigration has failed and needs to be changed althought it’sfar too late. Islam is the most dangerous thing to have happened to the world - ”
I agree with what you are saying…Labour really fucked it by not addressing immigration (thus forcing the working class + Daily Mail readers) towards the extreme BNP.
You make a good point about the difficulty of assessing who is let into to the country and who isnt. Even though I consider myself liberal, hell…I am a immigrant myself (albeit European), I dont think that you should encourage or make it easy for Al Quaeda sympathizers to enter this country (or any European country). It is a problem to police the thoughts of people. I would probably side with a more open immigration policy vs a closed immigration policy but then increase spending on education with a view to facilitating cultural integration. I am aware that this has a fiscal cost but the immigrants should really have to contribute to society if they come to this or any other country.
You can change peoples beliefs over time…look what happened to the decline of Christianity in W. Europe over the past 200 years. Islam (as practiced by most Middle Eastern societies) is just a few hundred years behind but things are starting to change in some part of the M.East…
Scumnation proves that he is probably related to the guys in the video. Most likely he is a test tube child, grown from the three fingers that those dudes claim release digestive enzymes. He ended up with MJ’s skin colouration issue which resulted in him mistakenly being adopted by white van driving yobos.
November 20th, 2009
[...] Friday and we don’t have the energy to take Islamic extremists out for milkshakes or destroy valuable pieces of art or uncover hidden cities in the Far East, or even do something [...]
November 20th, 2009
The similar mannerisms of this guy and Nick Griffin is scary
November 20th, 2009
That Anjem Choudary is an idiot, everybody knows strawberry is the best flavour!
November 20th, 2009
THE WORLD IS FUCKED THEY ARE BASICALLY FUCK UP EXTREMISTS
November 20th, 2009
Golve you make me fuckin laugh, an immigrant who wants an immigration policy. Wouldn’t it be really ironic if the BNP took control of the country and granted you your wish by throwing you back to where you came from first. Communism should have throttled you at birth.
November 20th, 2009
Is anyone else starting to like scumnation? Thats more fucked up than islamic extremists.
November 20th, 2009
No Jo thats the view of the non immigrant Brits and don’t you forget it.
November 20th, 2009
>> “Very funny Vice.. but you could use your power to educate people for a change!
Ignorance has never been cool.. Why shove only these extreme idiots in our faces?”
balance?? What do you mean? These events actually happened… it’s a news piece, that’s how it works - stuff happens.. and it’s documented. Where in the film does it suggest otherwise?
Isn’t it a good thing that we’re seeing this? Would you prefer not to know about whats happening in your country?
Any idiot watching this under the impression that this is an all encompassing portrayal of Islamic ideologies has no right to comment. <<
@ balance??
Point being, Vice is continually only showing far right views to their young audience, who may not have the same knowledge base as the likely ‘middle class’ producers of this video.
Hence the ’scumnation’ effect.
Sure, there’s a whole spectrum of goings on day to day from - Left Wing to Far Right. Why not show a mix of videos in the same post?
Does Vice fear if it changes it’s sensationalist based format, it wouldn’t be a success?
As long as it brings in the advertising revenue .. aye guys?
@ Jay / Goive: “Islam is the most dangerous thing to have happened to the world”
My my… that sounds paraphrased from Nick Griffin. Your own opinion is it Jay? Know any muslims first hand do you?
I think you’ll find most of the bad press is because middle eastern countries are sitting on Oil. The only “danger’” to the west is if it can’t get access to oil, hence the war for control.
Any educated person knows It’s really not about any religion at all… just money and greed.
November 20th, 2009
Scumnation is clearly angry at Islaam and Muslims because it opposes everything he stands for.
You see, Scumnation’s father is also his uncle, and his sister is the mother of his child. That doesn’t prevent him from having sexual intercourse with his pet pig though in the name of “Freedom”. He also likes to fiddle young boys, just like his co-western organisation “North American Man and Boy Love Association”.
Because Islaam opposes these “values”, he has a problem with Muslims. How else can he vent the frustration of having AIDS from his incestuous father/uncle though, besides scapegoat a people who call to eradicate the means to how he contracted it?
November 20th, 2009
Who is his contact at the MI5?
November 20th, 2009
@Scumnation
Did you ever go to school or did you mother suck out all of your cerebral matter out of your ass when you were a baby? Why shouldn’t an immigrant want immigration policy. The Immigration issue is not black and white (chuckle)…What I said is also not mutually exclusive. Should the USA not have an immigration policy in that case - that is country almost entirely composed of immigrants from over the past 200 years? I know it must be hard to understand for someone who has been felched of all of their grey matter by their mother but get with the fucking program.
If the BNP came to power and threw me and all other immigrants out of the country the UK would collapse. NHS…goodbye…property market…goodbye….a whole ton of jobs…goodbye etc
As for your Communism comment…WTF?
Did you actually go to school?
@balance: Don’t quote me as saying “Islam if the most dangerous thing to have happened to the word”. Never said it…
Islam and the way in which is practiced in many places is behind the times and is dangerous. The same can be said of Christianity in some states in the US or in some countries in Africa for example. I dont have a problem with Islam…I have a problem with the way its taught/interpreted and practiced.
November 20th, 2009
This is in Walthamstow Central near where i live- i would like to see these guys go to the nearby Priory Court, Drive or Marlowe estates where drugs and underage sex are rife. Instead they go to the central market, during the early evening which is never dangerous at that time. They are cowards. Try and stop me from drinking you ugly, sexually insecure neanderthals. Just fucking try.
November 20th, 2009
RE: Goive @Scumnation “Did you ever go to school or did you mother suck out all of your cerebral matter out of your ass when you were a baby?”
LOL.
November 20th, 2009
@KayBo
“The market is never dangerous” yet you were still too fucking scared to show up weren’t you? Pussy.
November 20th, 2009
Chill out guys, it’s friday.
November 20th, 2009
Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. Something Golve and Anon should learn. More intelligent people than you halfwits have tried those tricks on me a hundred times here on Vice. It didn’t work then and wont work now. So do as Jeff tells you chill out. get your porn on the screen and have a wank and if yer a muslim get down to the local mosque sex club for a spot of bum sniffin.
November 20th, 2009
Why do muslim priests when they call the people to prayer all sound like they are being gangbanged up the arse by a dozen horny black guys?
November 20th, 2009
Awwww….look lil’ Scumnation resorting to idioms learnt in the playground.
Hurting you is the last thing I would want to do…
I just feel sorry for you and want to try and explain to you what a tard you are with the aims of maybe one day teaching you something…You should be more open to this…never know…you might actually feel better for it.
Instead of posting the brainless drivel that you do try to READ what is posted here and then (and this is stage you are probably unfamiliar with)….THINK… critically evaluate (look this up if you dont know what it means) what is being said and then come up with a considered and balanced response. Then we can have a discussion.
You are neither funny, poignant nor insightful but you do provide me with fodder for my internet breaks while at work . With a bit of work we can maybe you will pass for something post-simian
November 20th, 2009
@ Goive: apologies there! Yes, it’s been twisted.
The old school formula: use religion out of context, and as a vehicle to gain momentum to further a political agenda.. Shame so many get brainwashed and sucked in.
It’s all about education, otherwise you’ll fall into ‘Scumnations’ bitter redneck vortex.
November 20th, 2009
any form of radicalism such as this, or evangelists in the US etc, is about gaining control of people and seeking an ‘order’.
radicalism does not allow individual opinion or freedom.
life is about experience, your experiences form your opinions; and these shape the person you are. forcing these opinions on other people is ridiculous, pointless and quite terrifying in these circumstances.
i understand we all like to feel like we belong somewhere, its seen in school groups - popular, quiet, rebellious people- but it should never be on such a huge scale as this.
teen pregnancy rates are linked with our countries alcohol consumption, but so what? thats another issue, which should not be included in these arguments.
people should be free to have their own opinions to form order in their own lives, but they should not be free to force others to conform to this.
the world doesn’t belong to one person, we are only here for hopefully around 75 years. just enjoy life. experience life.
November 20th, 2009
Scumnation, your obsession with fantasising about homosexual gangbangs is very telling. Why are you so obsessed with homosexual sex and what emanates from mens rear orifices? Does it tie in with the scat fetish you and your daddy/uncle/hubby have?
November 20th, 2009
All scumnation has shown us here is that he’s a complete imbecile. Seriously, did you actually finish school love? Why are you obsessed with hating someone else’s religion? Grow up and pedal your race hate somewhere else. And maybe attend a night class or two while you’re at it so you can learn how to formulate a cogent arguement dumbshit. I bet you anything this guy is on benfits and listens to trance.. what a joke.
November 20th, 2009
Anybody that believes in any type of god or follows any religion is simply an intellectual and emotional retard.
One should not mock the simple minded people.
November 20th, 2009
Muslims like Britains want peace, accept that Muslims want to live under the devine prescence of their god. Britain needs to understand that persecution is not the answer accepting people into its shores must in turn accept the person. Not just play savoir and parade around on Britains high horse and say look at how good we are! We let these people in but when all that shovenism falls to the wayside britiains and find it hard to accept the cultural devide. That god forsaken MoD is the biggest flaw in english history! if they spent half as much money on diplomates to delegate diffrences and create a cohesion instead of inensifying the mess with bombs and politics the world would be a better place. Money is nothing!
November 20th, 2009
RE: scumnation is moron @scumnation
“I bet you anything this guy is on benfits and listens to trance..”
LOL.
November 20th, 2009
scumnation
November 20th, 2009
2:17 pm
“Golve you make me fuckin laugh, an immigrant who wants an immigration policy. Wouldn’t it be really ironic if the BNP took control of the country and granted you your wish by throwing you back to where you came from first. Communism should have throttled you at birth.”
I would really like that holiday, make it happen for me babes.
November 20th, 2009
Isn’t Jihad Milkshare a hipster band?
November 20th, 2009
Goive: well said with your first comment :)
November 20th, 2009
I drink your Milkshake!
Daniel Plainview is spinning in his grave!
November 20th, 2009
Scumnation’s back online, well looks like all the religious nutters are not turning the other cheek. I have said all along that I am taking the piss out of the religious beliefs not just of muslims but of all religions. If you can’t handle that then tough shit, your faith can’t be that strong. So what song will muslims be mumbling down the mosque tonite?
A. ‘Face down ass up that’s the way we like to fuck’
November 20th, 2009
All this has less to do with religion and more with class structure and the assertion of identity within the political sphere. The clothes and customs add up to nothing more than window dressing, and the views are vocalized because they DON’T have the power or capacity to change British society in any meaningful way. The emotions driving the issue of political, cultural identity is no different than what is expressed by fans of Chelsea or Manchester after leaving the pubs and engaging in street battles. These muslims would be less hostile if they shagged more or started some hardcore punk bands to siphon off their frustrations at not fitting in into “British Mainstream” society.
November 20th, 2009
fuck these fuckin’ ragheaded Pieces Of Shit!
sharia law is an excuse to oppress women & anyone that believes differently than these wastes of air
they should cut off their own penises because idiot with cocks offend allah
mohammed was a pervert that molested children, goats, and gorillas
November 20th, 2009
These fuckheads give Islam a bad name.
The only cure for this level of stupidity is a blowtorch and a pair of plyers.
November 20th, 2009
What is it you so called intellectual breed don’t understand? I made a political point at the start ‘All religion is child abuse’ most of you are taking the indefensible line ‘when you can’t argue the point attack the person.’ I will continue to take the piss out of all forms of religion and religious beliefs because that is my basic human right. You can relate your argument to racism all you want but what you are really doing is trying to bring about change that would do away with our right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression. I and others will not allow that to happen, that is a principle worth having a civil war over. Each and everyone that has attacked me over my jokes has shown that closet tendency of fundamental fascism. You do not like people to have a different point of view from yourself and you do everything to try and stop it by attacking the person. By the way half of the comments on here are by the Vice staff keeping the argument going. If you haven’t worked that one out you are dumber than I thought. Have you not noticed how they are keeping this on the front page. At the very least this should be on the third page by now. They are milking it for all its worth.
November 20th, 2009
muslim scientists have found a chemical on the threes fingers which helps them digest the food…..sorry what?
November 20th, 2009
fuck that stupid cunt, he can lick his dirty shitty fingers that stupid cunt.
November 20th, 2009
Softly spoken words of hate are all the more chilling. The man’s obvious sympathy for terrorist murderers acting in the misappropriated name of Islam makes it clear what he is. A very dangerous man who likes milkshakes.
This was like watching the banal old home movies they sometimes show of Hitler and entourage chilling out in the mountains. It really is time that the West understood that being tolerant of intolerance is going to change the very way we live and relate to one another.
This is truly frightening stuff. They are the other side of the BNP coin.
November 20th, 2009
Thank God the US is in charge because if you fuckers in the UK were still in control the world would be an even bigger shit storm.
Sincerely,
M
California
November 20th, 2009
I was once ripped off by a Muslim landlord - went to small claims court and won back my months rent he tried to take. This guy tried everything to keep my money, in court he claimed he was illiterate, yet he owned half the street, Mercedes, local curry house (which I heard from locals was found to have used dog food in there curry, after suspicions were raised by the amount of tins in their rubbish). The local Muslim comunity stuck up for this guy. I concluded that his Muslim faith was a load of shit. People like this I want out of my country.
November 20th, 2009
The BNP is the solution. Labour’s vile racist policy allowed these nutters to breed like rats and called us all racists if we criticized. The country is split right down the middle and it is the middle ground that will take the brunt in the coming civil war. You will get it from both sides. So save yourself the problems of the future, vote BNP, don’t see your children die before you.
November 20th, 2009
I was once ripped off by a Muslim landlord - went to small claims court and won back my months rent he tried to take. This guy tried everything to keep my money, in court he claimed he was illiterate, yet he owned half the street, Mercedes, local curry house (which I heard from locals was found to have used dog food in the curry, after suspicions were raised by the amount of tins in their rubbish). Anyway - I concluded then that faith is a load of old shit. People like this I want out of my country.
November 20th, 2009
The US is no longer in charge, Obama was last seen rimming the ass of communism.
November 20th, 2009
Well how can I say no to a British accent? Everyone knows people with British accents are very smart and thus are right about a lot of things!
November 20th, 2009
“…he destined for them to die non-muslims…”
Then why try to convert them?
November 20th, 2009
Mo Ham Ed
November 20th, 2009
Choudary is a dangerous man. But he’s simply a dissembling smokescreen for the far more dangerous men who lurk in the shadows. Anyone who doubts the way these uber-smart medievalists use post-modern means to undermine the state and our secular democracy in order to plunge us into the dark ages needs to educate themselves. The British left, in particular, needs to wake up. These radicals have already created fifth columns in the UK/europe and they’re in it for the long haul. As the man said, they don’t care about non-muslims. They mean business.
The young people of groups such as the UAF need to think hard about who they allign themselves with. Young gays, lesbians and women have no memory of what the UK was like 20 or 30 years ago and just how much ground we’ve gained and how much we stand to lose by appeasing Islamists. The BNP are a sideshow and a distraction. The enemy is radical Islam. By that I mean political Islam, the totalitarian ideology that Choudary and his ilk aim to impose globally - by force, by stealth, by any means necessary. Unless people stop thinking in terms of left/right wing binary politics in the UK/europe and start to wake up to the real threat of radical islam, it will be too late. And forget all the stuff Choudary spouts about British foreign policy - his agenda is somewhat more broad and it’s non-negotiable. Lying and dissembling is all part of their game-plan as they happily point out themselves.
The current terrorism threat level is Substantial. This means that a terrorist attack is a strong possibility. That very real threat isn’t from the IRA or Mickey Mouse, it’s from radical islamists.
We need to start educating ourselves because that funny, quite affable, guy in the cafe llcking his fingers with the milkshake is, like his mates Abu Hamza and Omar Bakri Muhammed, much more dangerous that he appears.
November 20th, 2009
This guy should know he’s a Rothchild and the Ashkenazi took over the world in exactly the same way. The German BNP stood up to them and nearly saved the world. Now its the turn of the British BNP to save the world, join them and help save the planet.
November 21st, 2009
I’m against fascism and totalitarianism so the BNP isn’t an option Scumnation. Some of us are thinking of starting a new party - for everyone who loves our country & our secular democracy (warts and all) & hard-won freedoms but aren’t racist or fascist. For those who want to eradicate the enemy within, stop appeasing Islamists and speak for the real people who’ve been abandoned by the mainstream parties.
November 21st, 2009
NUTS.
November 21st, 2009
The only thing that is left is out and out war because the main parties have been bought off from the very same people who will turn your new party into an extremist party because they control the media and have the cash that you don’t have. You will end up banging your head against a brick wall. The BNP will focus on my enemies and trigger the civil war, the scum are ready for that. Those left standing will determine the direction the country will go after it is all over.
November 21st, 2009
Their posters sucks big time.
November 21st, 2009
suck balls scumnation…. i know you like it… :) :) :) loser
November 21st, 2009
Jay Muslims should be able to believe whatever they want, but that doesn’t mean we have to agree. Immigration is the only answer this isn’t our land to say who can live here or not. If immigration really didn’t work than we wouldn’t have ever been allowed to come here. Everyone should have a say in everything. I don’t agree with their beliefs about Gays either, but that’s their opinion and they should have a right to it.
Think about this jay.
No disrespect
love TylOr
November 21st, 2009
I just can’t be arsed with these fundamentalist cretins. What kind of spaz bases the whole of their existence on a fucking story?
The Quran - a fantastic method of control used before the presence of an official government. Convince everyone that if they don’t follow the rules they face eternal damnation. Oh, and for added convenience, why not just take the whole female gender and blame them for everything that’s ever gone wrong. That way, you can justify legalised rape and place the responsibility for rape with women by attesting that they showed an inch too much of their body and therefore somehow deserved it.
Trim The Fucking Herd
November 21st, 2009
Goive, I like your post
November 21st, 2009
“Not all muslims will take to the streets like this but I bet they would all come out with the same crap if you pushed them”
I doubt Sufi’s would…
November 21st, 2009
Scumnation says ‘Never trust anyone who wouldn’t sell their soul for a bacon roll first thing in the morning.’
November 21st, 2009
Nice beards.
November 21st, 2009
@ scumnation:
your views are as misinformed and extreme as the guys in the video. Pure wacko fantasy…
The BNP would sink this country, money and power wise!
You have no understanding of how the world works on a money level, let alone a human level.
With so much technology for communication, we are really not just a island surrounded by water anymore, like in the dark ages.
your holding onto a faux vision of a time that never existed,
Have you ever traveled outside of the UK / Europe and experienced the world?
Please explain what you think makes up an ‘ideal’ british persons identity
in your eyes, all the hate aside for a moment.
November 21st, 2009
The views of a greedy bastard. We got on well perfectly well without globalization and we can get on perfectly well without it. All we need to do is get rid of greedy bastards like yourself, but that is a different argument from what this thread is all about so are you in favour of bum sniffin or not? As regards travel go to my shows on sevenload, type in D-town Backpacker and you will find i have travelled to more places than you have ever dreamed about. Oh and read back this thread its about religion and my views on it are hear for all to see. If you don’t like my views tough shit. The views are not based on hate i don’t hate people with religious views i just think they’re stupid brainwashed cunts. They don’t like people like me taking the piss cos they have no answer to the humour. Their brains, their religion don’t give them the tools for dealing with that, that is why they go out and kill people in the name of religion. They have been taught all their lives to obey and never question what they are being taught. The people in this video would like us all to be like that, well no thanks i am a free thinking person. Anyone who has allowed themselves to be taken over in that manner deserve to have the piss taken out of them, at least to show how other people feel about that way of life.
November 21st, 2009
Greed, is the situation we’re in unfortunately, it’s all around us.
i wish it wasn’t that way… Ask the bankers why..!?
It’s the ugly side to our so called ‘developed modern living’, which chooses bottom line profit, over stopping for a moment to care for our world.
your airing your views Scumnation, fair enough.. but why be abusive?
Religion by default doesn’t brainwash people..
It’s up to the individual how they engage in it.
It’s wacko extremists who take it out of context and manipulate it,
for whatever reason,
the more people are wise to this.. the less chance these guys have of succeeding.
So you see it really is about education!! and not a fear and defense reaction.
My main point is:
Don’t kid yourself that the BNP is the answer.
When has fighting extremism with extremism ever worked in history?
That what gets us into war!
November 21st, 2009
Did you see the amount of food and drink they had? milkshakes and Coke no wonder they’re all obese and obviously they didnt pay for it because it would have been a small donner between them. Scumnation: I love your passion for our country and I respect your views but the BNP isnt the way forward , they do voice the concerns of a large section of the population but their radical ways also scare a lot of people who would vote for them if they were more moderate.
November 21st, 2009
HATE THE WEST BUT THEY LOVE COKE-COLA ??? (HYPOCRITE’S) MAYBE THEY’LL HAVE A MCDONALD’S BEFORE JIHAD ??? WITH ADIDAS TRAINERS AND GERMAN CARS ???
November 21st, 2009
Spot on but if it was free they would take anything…….I might try them with a bacon butty.
November 21st, 2009
Gent you confuse humour for abuse, the abuse comes in my direction from others. I make jokes at their expense they respond with abuse, the reason being as i have previously stated. I have stated my reasons for the jokes and that is my right to do so. I like most people in this country made a decision about religion many years ago. We do not want outsiders coming in and forcing us back into religion against our will and it is our right to choose those who we feel are best suited to tackle that growing problem, this is our country not the country of those who would force us into sniffin arse in our jim jams on a Friday. As far as your comments about religion not brainwashing people the vast majority of the country would disagree with you. It starts in the womb of the brainwashed and continues throughout a child’s life, they have no say in the matter. They are mentally abused by their parents into the views held by the parents. The state takes over and forces religion on the child throughout their childhood. The child becomes brainwashed themselves then they subject their children to the same abuse. Most non immigrant children reject this as their parents before them have done and we are not prepared to allow nutters from both east and west to force us back to this mumbo jumbo.
November 21st, 2009
Goive, to compare the ideology of Islam with Christianity and the BNP is irrational and absolutely moronic. There is no comparison. Only adherents to Islam want to kill the infidels, rape the conquered survivors, rape and marry children, and lie under the guise of sacred deception (taqiya). You have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re a relativist. Extreme views are not immoral by themselves. Extreme views about morality is fine. I have extreme views that life and liberty should be protected. That makes me as bad as someone who follows Islamic doctrine who abhors freedom and life as we know it?
You don’t even see the lunacy of your statement. I have extreme views that democracy and freedom and the pursuit of happiness ought to be respected. I’d put my life on the line to protect those ideals. And, that’s the same as an adherent’s view to Islam?
I don’t think it is. If you think it is, you represent what is entirely wrong with our culture and society. You don’t even recognize we have a culture worth fighting for.
November 21st, 2009
That’s because Goive is a foreigner himself from eastern europe. He doesn’t know the true culture of the people of the country he’s living in. He lives in one of the big cities and has never been around the estates and has never talked to the scum and is therefore considered an outsider by the majority of people around him, when are you going back?
November 21st, 2009
All this talking, talking talking, name calling, I dont like this i dont like that! ect ect
You know lets just sovle this problem like we did the last few times!!
A good old TOTAL WAR / JIHAD/ CRUSADE ect , whatever!! ( and i dont mean a bloody afgan style innsurgency). Lets just all go out grad somthing that can hurl a few shells and scrap it out!!. I personally find all this bourgeoisie flapping most distasteful. Then when we have finnally found out which side allah/god is really on, then we can all go skipping hand in hand down to hajj for that orgy as friends.
November 21st, 2009
It’s obvious this guy is a dangerous bastard - the risk with him is magnified, if people are stupid/weak minded/submissive/gullible/naive - then his values will be spread like an infection. What proportion of the UK population are weak minded? What are the symptoms of being weak minded/submissive/gullible/naive? (what activities do people like this engage in, what papers do they read [dailymail])
If people are weak minded they might not necessarily adopt HIS values (due to their cultural circumstances) but they could well adopt an extremist/radical/stupid philosophy like white supremacy etc. Extremists are extremists, and it doesn’t matter what the cultural circumstances/parameters are, they will find some set of values which correspond to the way they think. The problem is with a way of thinking. Younger people are more impressionable so they are at risk of being affected by this shit.
Islam, and the other religions really, have these characteristics:
A culture of supressing: individual thought, freedom of opinion, the ability to question authority. Authoritarianism (sp?) is the root cause of so many problems in the world (hitler/stalin/fascism/narcisists/cults/egotists/x-factor judges). Religion, especially islam encourages these conditions/problems.
Islamists take issue with people engaging in casual sex, especially gay sex, and drink/drugtaking. It is them who choose to take issue with these perfectly understandable activities. The risks surrounding casual sex/drugtaking can be managed with EDUCATION. Nothing else works!! I can’t recall any muslim death metal fans either. There is a tendency to obey authority and become so subservient (the muslim convert in the video springs to mind) that the natural ethical tendencies (care for others, chill out, have fun, respect, love) are OVERRIDDEN and they can become capable of extreme horrors (violence/terrorism) as a result. Common people turn into monsters when they sign away their ethical natural code to some authority. “Yes sir, tell me what to do and I’ll do it”
Also, post 60’s, the world is meant to be moving on from these old philosophies and towards a more open, loving, less repressed culture. This philosophy is an old thing that used to serve a purpose (possibly control the masses) and it’s now redundant! Shed the skin!
It’s important for the comon person as well to be careful of paranoia drummed up by the press (anyone who looks remotely dodgy/anxious/sinister, they must be a terrorist) Active/measured/logical thinking will dispell paranoia.
November 21st, 2009
What a joke. Bunch of fat bearded cunts. Fuck Islam. Fuck your prophet up his gay ass.
November 22nd, 2009
thats stupid, im glad you have shown him in this way, oviously that is not his true light as he is not in the anger mode where, we will kill all non muslims sound alot more threatening. he shouldnt be near any western civilization if he does not belie that we are living wholesome lives.
November 22nd, 2009
Ditto Beardy.
November 22nd, 2009
These rock apes are still living the same way they did 2,000 years ago. Wow, what an appealing lifestyle - you save soooo much money by not taking baths, even if you have to put with a colony of fleas in your beard and crabs in your crotch. I hope the 70 virgins waiting in heaven for each of these prized catches comes prepared with a can of Febreze. Every one of these guys is living on welfare, in free public housing, producing their low-grade spawn - future terrorists have to come from somewhere, don’t they? But here’s a memo for the milkshake enthusiasts - don’t try flying over on your carpets to Texas. You won’t like the greeting you get, should you set your sights on the Alamo for your next mosque.
November 22nd, 2009
“one of the problems with the media is, they’ll fabricate something, then they’ll start believing it” - yeah like someone ages ago ‘fabricated’ the book YOU believe is true. Moron
November 22nd, 2009
I cant belive some people are so ignorant that they think all muslims are like this.
fuck you idiots, i know many muslims who are sound and lovely people and all they want to do is just live peacefully.
its not funny being rasict, im sorry i just dont understand moronic humour. rascism is being AFRAID
fuck you for being weak and AFRAID just how the media wants you to think.
November 22nd, 2009
There are no virgins left up there, its a con. If Allah didn’t fuck them Jimi Hendrix did.
November 22nd, 2009
everyone can sleep soundly tonight in the knowledge that when divine law is reinstated, scumnation will be the first to have his hands removed.
November 22nd, 2009
That’s OK I gave up wanking years ago.
November 22nd, 2009
Is ’scumnation’ a Mr. Nigel Wingrove? Judging by his hubristic website, I’m sure he’d like the speculation if it was. Either way, he truly fancies himself as part of the VICE writing team. Sorry mate, you should probably have gotten out more instead of commenting on nearly every bleeding thing on this website. Good God! Bad Allah!
November 22nd, 2009
Jack I’m much better than the Vice writing team, if you type in scumnation in the search box on Vice you will see there are over two thousand entries, more than all their writers put together, my web sites get more viewers than Vice. They have purposely keep this thread on their front page cos they know it the type of article that i like to get involved in and that boosts their viewing figures. My housing class wit winds up all those who would normally have let this go by. Its a rag to a bull and their is nothing funnier than seeing all these twats foam at the mouth with their replies, yours is one of the less creative.
November 22nd, 2009
Gosh you are just so irreverent Mr. Wingrove, i feel my mouth foaming! Not that you ever take yourself seriously mind - I can’t believe I didn’t realise the entire VICE website was for you personally to vent your rather crude frustrations on the world. Why don’t you take up gardening or something? That’s more suited to your age bracket as a 50 year old man isn’t it? Plus, it’ll give you some fresh air to fill those kebabish lungs of yours.
However, I would sort out your tense because with all this irreverence for grammar, I just can’t tell whether you’re coming or going. Although, it took you a while to respond so I’m guessing I might just have touched a nerve. You irreverent fool, you. Now let’s take it down a notch, when did you last get a shag Mr. Wingrove?
November 22nd, 2009
Tut tut you are beginning to foam at the mouth and you seem more concerned with me than the thread you are replying to. Do you not have an opinion on these people or are you too thick to understand the implications of what these people are saying? Oh and by the way we scumbois don’t give a fuck about grammar we didn’t have parents who rapped our knuckles if we got it wrong like you. We are not interested in the correct way to construct a sentence, try that with some other brainwashed twat. So off to your bedroom Jack for a spot of wanking before mummy calls you for dinner or is that tea? Oh gosh
November 22nd, 2009
Such bile, such anger, such hate, such contempt for the language of the culture you love. The irony is palpable, is it not? Why bring ‘ya mam’ jokes into a serious attack on character? That’s just laziness - on all fronts.
Well, I can’t seem to get a serious answer out of you and that last one took you almost an hour to get done. Quite obviously sexually frustrated, obsessed with ones mothers, deluded, bumptious and just a little bit slow - it’s not looking good is it?
November 22nd, 2009
You make me laugh typing away with a description of yourself and not a word about the main event so here is a relevant question for you. Perhaps an intelligent 14 year old like yourself can answer it. Was it a fart that caused the stampede at the Hajj? Answer in one word and no excuses.
November 22nd, 2009
BILGE:
http://en.sevenload.com/shows/THE-SCUM-SHOW/episodes/VAANLfM-2-Dim-2-Rim
November 22nd, 2009
Will Jack return with some amazing words of wisdom? Tune in folks later tonite when Jack has had a chance to finish his wank. You know how these kids have only a 30 second attention span that’s why it takes them so long to finnish their wank.
November 22nd, 2009
He did and found some wank material. Go on Jack let your spurt hit the ceiling.
November 22nd, 2009
Hey Jack try this one out, Scumnation - face down ass up - in the ebony section on Tube 8 - have fun
November 23rd, 2009
Laugh all you want guys! Islam is a major threat to freedom and civility, and yet Christians get all the bashing these days. Look at how ignorant that one Muslim interviewed was, “The guy got robbed and said he wanted to cut his head off, and I was like, Whoa, we only cut off the hand!” The difference is, the guy who got robbed was letting off steam.. he wouldn’t REALLY go and cut off the robber’s head. Islam would REALLY cut off the hand!
Islam is being tolerated across the world and with such lax toleration, they will take over. We are aiding the ‘Prophet’ Mohammed’s plan (I use ‘Prophet’ lightly, because he just was a power-monger and found a way to herd the sheep.. religion.) He’s of the same mold as Jim Jones. Seriously, Islam is a religion of deception and brainwashing and death. Islam must either be reformed or eliminated. I’m all for freedom of religion, but it is more of a political organization these days than a religion. They are as bad, no, they are far worse than the Catholic Church now.
But yeah.. go ahead and keep laughing. Keep laughing when you have to hear the call to prayer. Keep laughing when they kill your family because you won’t kneel to their ShaRia law, keep laughing when they cut off your arm and leg for being an infidel. Keep on laughing. The Muslims know how weak Europe is.
November 23rd, 2009
scumnation..
you motherfucker..
i would love to rape you in the arse with a broomstick, and then feed you your own shit and then use your mouth to suck every spare bollock in east london.
trust me mate if you had the balls to speak up you wouldnt be using vice as protection. if your a man or whatever the fuck you are come get some.
November 23rd, 2009
Islam: Religion Of Peace.
They love death, more than life.
Do the math and consider sterilizing these maggots.
Before it’s too late.
November 23rd, 2009
If Muslims were in the majority and had power over non-believers, what would Britain look like? Would they tolerate Christians, Jews, Hindus, atheists, agnostics? What Gay rights would Muslims respect? What would become of women’s rights? Free speech. Freedom of religion? Freedom of press? Freedom of expression in the arts?
Is there any Muslim dominated country that allows non-Muslims equal rights? Religious wars are being wage all over the world. From Africa to Asia, Muslims are attacking their Infidel neighbors. Wake up and smell the Jihad. Stop listening to childish, naive Liberals. They will lead you to Hell and leave you there.
November 23rd, 2009
i think its about time i made my confession; I am clearly a racist idiot and should have every bone in my body broken with a steamroller then left to die on the streets. forgive me for i am not clever enough to do anything but be a colossal racist douchebag. i also have poor grammar and literacy skills, which when compounded by my diminutive iq and tiny brain size, help make for a heady mix for small mindedness racism and hate. yet i am also too scared to state my opinions with my real name as, all cowards do, by hiding behind an inflammatory name.
November 23rd, 2009
also The shadow, look up lebanon and turkey mate
November 23rd, 2009
scumnation
The problem isn’t the misguided followers of the cult of Islam. The problem is the oppressive system of Islam itself. Liberals are wrong to mindlessly believe that opponents of Islam hate Muslims as individuals. Nazism is a belief system Islam is a belief system. To oppose Nazism is not the same as hating all Germans. To oppose islam is not the same as hating all Muslms. Liberals should stop their manipulative knee-jerk reactionary “racism/bigotry” line. It is intellectually dishonest and stupid.
November 23rd, 2009
Lebanon?! Christians and Jews are free to build churches and convert Muslims to their religion in Lebanon? Are they treated as equals to Muslims?
In addition to the Eastern Orthodox Church, Turkey also has Armenian, Syriac and Jewish minority communities. According to the Treaty of Lausanne, the Jewish, Armenian and Orthodox communities are exempt from Muslim religious instruction. They must present written verification of their non-Muslim background. The Syriac Church is not officially recognized as a Lausanne Treaty minority. However, the US State Department Report on Religious Freedom states that, according to a church official, because they are not mentioned in the treaty, they are not forced to follow any religious curriculum. The Armenian community has reported harassment of churches and increasing encroachment on land held by Armenians by Muslim extremists. The government has intensified security in these areas.
The Jewish, Armenian and Orthodox communities are in danger of losing a number of church properties because of a law which states that “extinct” properties–buildings which have had a prolonged absence of clergy or lay persons or a lack of adherents–revert to the government.
The state must approve the operation of churches, monasteries, synagogues, schools and charitable religious foundations. Churches not recognized as minorities by the Lausanne Treaty may not acquire additional property for churches. The Catholic Church in Ankara is limited to operating on diplomatic property. In December of 1996, a pipe bomb exploded in St. Anthony’s Catholic Church in Istanbul.
Evangelical Christians who proselytize may be arrested for disturbing the peace. If they are foreigners, they may be deported. The state department reports that they generally may reenter the country easily. Iraqi and Irani converts to Christianity who have fled to Turkey seeking asylum are generally deported to their home countries, where they risk reprisals.
November 23rd, 2009
maybe you should actually read up on what islam is about before labelling them all under one brush. islam never killed millions of innocent people. nazism has. and its not liberals, its sensible minded people. a religion that is one of peace similar to all the abrahamic faiths should not be dredged through the dirt. if you misunderstand islam and believe its oppresive, perhaps you should read their holy books first, maybe actually follow the lifestyle of a muslim. i think there was a programme called 30 days where a man, similar in attitude to yourself did just that and after that time, he began to realise that there are a lot of misconceptions and misinterpretations people have of it. Are you brave enough to try something like that out? Only once you really understand the thing you are labelling can you make a judgement call. before that, its all just empty words and hatemongering
November 23rd, 2009
“I cant belive some people are so ignorant that they think all muslims are like this.
fuck you idiots, i know many muslims who are sound and lovely people and all they want to do is just live peacefully.
its not funny being rasict, im sorry i just dont understand moronic humour. rascism is being AFRAID
fuck you for being weak and AFRAID just how the media wants you to think.”
Islam is a RELIGION not a race. If you can’t stand muslims it’s not racist. There are white muslims as well you know… That ‘oh everyone is so racist against us’ is crap. People dont like the murderous ideas they have, nothing else…
November 23rd, 2009
All I can say is..”Lock & Load” assholes. And if you don’t…be prepared to have your lousy liberal lives smashed to smithereens by the political ideology that’s worse than Communism or National Socialism…Islime!
Too bad Hitler wasn’t as smart as these scumbags…he could have named Nazism a “religion” and he’d have seat on the UN human rights council today! Yes…it’s time to “revamp” immigration policies throughout the western world…..before these assholes get any more of a foothold or another carry out another murderous blitz. Send every Fooking one of them packing back to the shit holes they came from.
November 23rd, 2009
Maybe you guys are right, i withdraw my previous comments
November 23rd, 2009
I’m glad this unfolding spectacle is largely taking place on the other side of an ocean. You will serve as an example for the Americans.
November 23rd, 2009
I am not actually making any sense am i?
November 23rd, 2009
i find it fun to hate people for no reason
November 23rd, 2009
Meat + Milkshake =/= Kosher.
November 23rd, 2009
The Shadow
Maybe you guys are right, i withdraw my previous comments
The above was posted by someone pretending to be me.
I stand by my comments about Islam.
Turkey is the exception. There is more religious tolerance there than in most other Muslim countries. The exception is not the rule. The rule in Islamic countries is religious intolerance.
Saudi Arabia is the home-base of Islam. There is ZERO religious tolerance there. You will be arrested and imprisoned for bringing a Bible into Saudi Arabia.
No churches or synagogues are allowed.
November 23rd, 2009
kill muslims!!!
November 23rd, 2009
“islam never killed millions of innocent people. nazism has. ”
Muslims in the middle east would kill every Jew in israel if they had the power to do it.
The so-called Palestinians love Hitler’s Mein Kamph. It’s a best seller there. The march using the Nazi goosestep. They use the salute Nazis gave Hitler in Germany.
The Palestinian Grand Mufti of Jerusalem worked with Hitler to exterminate the Jews. This was in 1935. There was no Israel until 1948. How do you explain that? I thought the only reason Arab Muslms hated Jews was because of Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians.
If Israel was a Muslim state would their Arab Muslim enemies have a problem with them?
To stand against Muslim intolerance is not racism.
Islam is by it’s nature, by the dictates of the Koran, an intolerant religion.
November 23rd, 2009
pure insanity, they should hook up with some evangelists and they well quickly discover that they are equally mental as each other…… if we abandoned organised religion as a species and invested the time and resources we waste on worshiping spirits in the sky into science we would all be riding hover boards till we are a 1000 years old and living on mars by now…….
November 23rd, 2009
“The Shadow
Maybe you guys are right, i withdraw my previous comments
The above was posted by someone pretending to be me.
I stand by my comments about Islam.
Turkey is the exception. There is more religious tolerance there than in most other Muslim countries. The exception is not the rule. The rule in Islamic countries is religious intolerance.
Saudi Arabia is the home-base of Islam. There is ZERO religious tolerance there. You will be arrested and imprisoned for bringing a Bible into Saudi Arabia.
No churches or synagogues are allowed.”
The above post was someone pretending to be someone pretending to be me.
I really think that i need to search further into islam before tearing down an entire religion based on my own prejudices. perhaps in time i will believe this but this would require me to invest my own time in really understanding the facts about this religion. the truth is, my own prejudices colour my own opinion and until i can really take the time to take more than a surface glance at islam, i will not be able to make a well balanced judgement on the matter. I doubt that george bush would have made a good posterboy for christianity by starting two wars so why do i think that the leader kingdom of saudi arabia, a largely british construct in exchange for the creation of israel and bereft of being called a true islamic state can be lead to the same account for islam?
I find it easy to hate islam because people are fearful of beliefs that are different to theirs. even though there is so much common ground to work on and opportunities for social ills to be tackled (interest free based economy that would have ensured that a credit crunch that has crippled this great country, would not have occurred) i still cannot see beyond my innate fear of the unknown, the different. perhaps in time i will try and verify my assertions by taking the litmus test of learning about islam before i dismiss it. but before then all i can do is cling to my racism, and thats what it is, racism in the hope that rather than confronting my fear (and learning the real islam, the beauty and diversity of this abrahamic religion) i live in perpetual fear of it, based on some false illusion that it promotes ill will to others. i will no doubt try and find some heavily out of context sources to back up this fallacy and further strengthen this false belief about islam by citing examples where leaders and peoples were not properly practising islam and conveniently sidestepping the billions of peace loving people who want nothing but to pray to God, help each other, give alms and charity to the needy and try to make the world a little better place, for muslim and non muslim.
that about sums up my problem right there
November 23rd, 2009
I like Mr. Choudary. As always, you in USA and UK must question your media and government, they will always lie to you about the “other side.”
Approach people who are introduced to you as your “enemy” with an open mind and with an open hand, not a clenched fist.
Jacob in Israel
November 23rd, 2009
To the psychotic half-wit who is using my name.
You are a sub-mental moron. Grow a brain.
November 23rd, 2009
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November 23rd, 2009
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers….
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme - 8:39
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
….. martyrs…. Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
November 23rd, 2009
Choudary and his ilk should catch a lead migraine. Soon. Reclaim England while there is still something left to save, if you can. Time for a New Crusade.
November 23rd, 2009
I see i have a muslim clone 118. you go out on the piss have a shag and when you come back online you see muslim clones taking the great scumnation Allah’s name in vain. OK all you bum sniffin clones answer the fuckin question ‘ Was it a fart that caused the stampede at the Hajj’ and to all the anon scum haters go and bomb a london bus preferably full of muslims on their way to work.
November 23rd, 2009
Did i just use the Quran heavily out of context to back up fallacy’s? I think i did.
I most likely put into google “what is islam + evil”, and got the quotes from a website dedicated to insulting islam. My problem is that i cant even carry a discussion on with myself well enough let alone a well versed discussion with other people. Maybe i should read what i have written previously and dwell on it for a bit before jumping to conclusions because as long as i look at evidence out of context and from people with a biased agenda against islam i can’t say that what i’m reading is what it represents. Maybe directly reading the source with accurate translations and commentary from people who kept record of the Quran rather than a particular translation and once again out of context and without providing the actual source.
I mean i regret having said what i said earlier having just googled said quotes and found that muslims were persecuted for 13 years by the pagan, jewish and christian tribes surrounding them, kicked out of their homes and treated similarly to how jews were treated in world war 2 all with only non violent resistance as an ally. And that all the references i have quoted (albeit with a flimsy translation at best) muslims believed to be a revelation for God telling them to not be scared and fight their enemies, on the battlefield. It further goes onto say As always, in a war when you face the enemy
(and this was a war to fight oppression and persecution, similar to how the british and russians liberated germany in 1945) the general would tell the troops that you should not be scared of the enemy and that where you find the enemy you should fight them, they believed it was a morale booster from God to stop muslims who are scared about fighting to be able to fight and defend themselves. If i read the quotes i again i can see that most of them continually refer to the persecution of the muslims from mecca being the catalyst for war. they seem to have lost their homes, wealth land, everything. even the quote about fighting is saying that it is not preferred ‘disliked’, that it is ‘hateful’ to them but that they need to defend themselves from the enemy. even the quote about martyrs now that i read it in context is about the muslims in the battlefield not being scared to die for the freedom to practise their religion. I see that as bad as things are now with islamophobia etc, it was a whole lot worse back then. All the muslims just wanted to be able to worship one God in peace and they were denied this.
Now i have become one of those very people, scared of any religion or belief system that is slightly different to my own, uniting with others through hatred because maybe, just maybe i’m a little worried that if i sat down and learned about islam, i might like it. Undoubtedly at the moment anyway, any advice i give myself will fall on deaf ears but if i really want to know more about the true islam i will look up the peace channel on sky or commonly asked questions by non muslims on islam and zakir naik’s speeches about what the muslim faith is really about.
Maybe, just maybe, i will stop hating for long enough to give islam a chance and really find out what its about from people who are real muslims
November 23rd, 2009
i see we have muslims pretending to be non muslims, is that the takeover bid or is it a desire within all muslims to be non muslim and fuck shag and get pissed like the rest of us?
November 23rd, 2009
i see i have a racist clone 118, do i keep making these jokes because i’m deeply insecure about anything that is different to me? yes
i make jokes because i am helpless, i think racism is a good way of blaming all my problems on a section of society and hence never really have to address my own underlying problems. i know that fear of the unknown preys on my mind heavily but instead of learning about different faiths etc i feel the need to justify my belief system by looking at the extremes, the edges of society. I am not a part of the majority, precisely because of this, because i am too lazy to realise that muslims, all minorities and immigrants have done so much for this country economically alone that had they not our current financial crisis would be much worse. i forget that the nhs is largely run by minority doctors and nurses, that despite all my cries to the contrary a person from a minority is not taking a job from another british person, but simply that people who are the most skilled will get more job opportunities
November 23rd, 2009
I see we have a clone 118 they must be a cleaner up at this time well answer the question then was it a fart that caused the stampede at the Hajj? well I’m off to Uni you can sit there and kiss the ass of your superiors.
November 23rd, 2009
Down with these muzzie wankers !
Keep the pork, porn and alcohol. Ban jizzlam instead !
Infidels of the world, unite !
November 23rd, 2009
This guy and his cadre of merry parasitic muslims are but a symptom of something larger going on in the West. Why are they even in England? Raping the women of Malmo, Sweden. Rioting in France. Blowing up Spanish trains …. using airplanes as missiles on 9/11…
Why are Western governments willing to put their nations at risk? I see no benefit to allowing Islamists into the West.
November 23rd, 2009
I had a dream about Scumnation last night.
November 23rd, 2009
Islams an expansionist totalitarian fascist political project founded by Mohammad the paedophile rapist mass murdering Jew hating uber deceiving bandit and psychopath. No really.
jihadwatch org atlasshrugs wordpress com nctc gov brusselsjournal com zombietime com roadsassy com thereligionofpeace com theprophetofdoom net faithfreedom org memritv org shoebat com stophonourkillings com
America Alone M. Steyn. While Europe Slept B.Bawer. Stealth Jihad&The PC Guide 2 Islam R.Spencer. B.Gabriel Why They Hate. Terror In Beslan J.Giduck. atlasshrugs wordpress com The Looming Tower L.Wright. The Al Qaeda Reader R.Ibrahim Eurabia B.Yeor
Zombietime com P.J O’ROURKE Culture of Corruption M.Malkin America Alone M.Steyn steynonline com michellemalkin com thepeoplescube com bestobamafacts com lookingattheleft com PJTV com drsanity blogspot com
dissectleft blogspot com. margaretsanger blogspot com obamawantsyou com biggovernment com greenhellblogcom Liberal Fascism J.Goldberg. The Death Of the GrownUp D.West greenhellblog com roadsassy com The Capitalist Manifesto A.Bernstein Liberty&Tyranny M.Levin eco imperialism com colonelrobertneville blogspot com
November 23rd, 2009
I like to suck my transsexual mother’s dick.
November 23rd, 2009
“At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war.” Gates of Vienna com
Got that, kids? WE ARE IN A NEW PHASE OF A VERY OLD WAR and the enemy is inside the gates.
November 23rd, 2009
I am clearly angry at Islaam and Muslims because it opposes everything I stand for.
You see, my father is also my uncle, and my sister is the mother of my child. That doesn’t prevent me from having sexual intercourse with my pet pig though in the name of “Freedom”. I also likes to fiddle young boys, just like my co-western organisation “North American Man and Boy Love Association”.
Because Islaam opposes these “values”, I has a problem with Muslims. How else can I vent the frustration of having AIDS from my incestuous father/uncle though, besides scapegoat a people who call to eradicate the means to how I contracted it?
My obsession with fantasising about homosexual gangbangs is very telling. My obsessing about homosexual sex and what emanates from mens rear orifices ties in with the scat fetish me and my daddy/uncle/boyfriend have.
Vote BNP!
November 23rd, 2009
though my sentiments are clearly good at that last point, possibly even true. i do not want to associate myself with slandering. scumnation off to uni so early? i am in the same uni (ofcourse i am, i am you) maybe i can actually meet some muslims, get a dialogue going and really find out more about their religion rather than judging it from my own preconceptions or maybe i will continue this diatribe knowing full well i could not win an argument of logic when my heart is so full of hate and in particular fear of the different
November 23rd, 2009
The clones are out in force this morning 118. You go to yer class at Uni and what happens when you get back. You find Vice writer Alice has had a wank thinking about you and the fantasies of other muslims who seem tired of wandering through life in their jim jams they have to pretend to be someone else. But i love these twats who attack me with all that pent up bile (get it all out guys) then get some humour into your lives. Life is not about going bum sniffin on a friday. Go out get pissed, have a laugh and get a shag at the end of it. Otherwise you will end up like Alice rubbing herself to sleep, or in the case of the bum sniffers going home to lift that vail and the realization that your parents married you off to a water buffalo.
November 23rd, 2009
You see the reason I could never accept Islaam is because “bum sniffin” is insufficient for me. I like bum fucking (but only if it’s a man).
November 23rd, 2009
My, its a wonder i get any work done at uni what with all my Viceland trawling and bum-fucking.
I am so out of here fellas.
November 23rd, 2009
Hey guys you forgot to say NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER go on be a devil
November 24th, 2009
“I like words such as pussy and cock” GREAT VIDEO!
November 24th, 2009
yo scumnation..
you may remember me from this message..
scumnation..
you motherfucker..
i would love to rape you in the arse with a broomstick, and then feed you your own shit and then use your mouth to suck every spare bollock in east london.
trust me mate if you had the balls to speak up you wouldnt be using vice as protection. if your a man or whatever the fuck you are come get some.
and then you came bag with the pussiest reply..
you punk,
listen dude you talk about muslims wanting to be non muslims, so they can drink and fuck and all that..
let me tell you something you butt plug wearing motherfucker,
i am a muslim and i drink more alcohol then your hill billy family put together, i fuck more women then you have ever come close to mother fucker, your mum was nice but had a huge bucket fanny, and mate i fucking do more gear then you could ever imagine, just ask your mum she liked what i gave her..
get a life prick..
and just move on..
November 24th, 2009
you guys are idiots and/or jews and/or gentiles who love jews.
November 24th, 2009
Hey shitface you got a name but it ain’t no muslim name like mo ham ed it’s a scum name, Billy . What can I say to an illiterate muslim that breaks all the laws of the muslim fairy story. If I didn’t know any better I’d say you were one of the Vice team trying to have a laugh at their boring job that they don’t get paid for. Public schoolboys are good mimics but will never make a scumboi. Go back to wanking and making small talk over the photocopier with that american twat that likes to sit on it.If you are a real muslim you can answer the question that all the others are avoiding. ‘Was it a fart that caused the stampede at the Hajj?’
November 24th, 2009
Whats with the racist comments?
and why arent Brits condemning this?
you expect Muslims to condemn other Muslims when they call brit troops terrorists but you dont condemn your own people who insult other people?
and yet you expect some people to show loyalty, how will the show loyalty when the majority of you are a bunch of hypocrites?
Instead of typing these rude, old fashioned comments why not speak, debate with a Muslim, then believe in anything the western medai says witout proof?
Most Muslims dont agree with the views of Al-Muhajiroun.
November 24th, 2009
How about you answering the question about the fart.
November 24th, 2009
I have no penis because my father/uncle/boyfriend sucked the 0.2 inch pin-dick twig too hard and thus dissolved. Now I am restricted to using my fingers and tongue when sodomizing him. Vote BNP!
November 24th, 2009
Dear Billy,
You are right. I am a butt-plug wearing motherfucker. It’s only plugged in when my uncle/father/boyfriend’s rather small penis isn’t inserted in my rectum instead.
I have no doubt you’ve fucked more women than me, because I am just a spotty faced virgin sitting in Uni dorms typing shit to people I know can kill me with ease under a pseudonym out of trepidation and fear. Not to mention the fact I am a dick sucking faggot who is allergic to and has a phobia of heterosexual sex.
About my mother having a bucket fanny, fair enough. I’d liken it more to a wizard’s sleeve though, with the amount of monster Muslim dicks that have penetrated the whore. I would have asked her if she liked what you gave her, but she’s too busy sucking Muslim dick in order to reply.
All of the above is in part why I type the shit I do about Muslims. Because I can’t face the facts of reality, and thus sitting in my Uni bedsit surrounded by jizz stains on my duvet from watching gay porn I write obscenities that would surely get me killed if said in person because I am a fucking weed with a dissolved non-existent dick and the sexual orientation of a bum-fucker.
November 24th, 2009
:: Gulp ::
Ahh… that was refreshing.
Indeed, I do love Muslim dick. Just like my son loves my brother’s/his father’s dick.
You’ll have to excuse his rude behaviour. He’s just frustrated because he has no penis and has contracted AIDS from my brother/his father/our boyfriend (we’re incestuous swingers, you see).
November 24th, 2009
Hey whadda know, a muslim branch of the scumnation fan club. All giving up their bum sniffin time for some love and praise of their new Allah. By the way what’s muslim for ’scumnation is great’
November 24th, 2009
My father/uncle/boyfriend is the president of the scumnation fan club. He gives up bum sniffin time for bum-fucking time - with me. I engage in tribadism with my mother/aunty because neither of us have a penis. My mother sucks penis however, but only if it belongs to a Muslim.
November 24th, 2009
dude do you want to hang out?
i feel theres more to you then what you write?!
and i dont work for vice!!
let me know ill pass you on some details, i wont be rude, maybe go out for a drink get you laid?
couple of lines?
November 24th, 2009
i make it a policy not to go out with members of my fan club.
November 24th, 2009
My policy is that I only to go out with members of my family. But only if we can incestuously and homosexually fuck.
November 24th, 2009
Billy perhaps my clone would like to go out with you he seems in a desperate position
November 24th, 2009
A bit like the desperate position I was in last night when my father/uncle/boyfriend’s phallus started bleeding when thrusting my anus. I have AIDS anyway, so I overlooked it.
November 24th, 2009
Yes Jack
November 24th, 2009
‘Jack’ is the name of my father/uncle/boyfriend, and “Yes” is what I said to him when he asked if he could bum-fuck me.
November 24th, 2009
Yes Jack.
November 24th, 2009
Jack will you stop wanking over my picture and come to the computer and let us all hear your next fantasy.
November 24th, 2009
Oh Jack where are you? Did you go to JD Sports for those scumboi blue ‘Lonsdale’ joggers and hooded top? Oh gosh what are you going to tell mummy about those spunk stains? Oh golly gosh. But if you want to be a scumboi you really have to look at the language you use. Would a real scumboi use all those big words you took the time to look up Wouldn’t a scumboi just use plain simple language? Must be a public schoolboy.
November 24th, 2009
These finger licking cunts think they can impose shariah law on me? I’ve got 5 .762 rounds with their names on.
November 25th, 2009
I have the intelligence of a single bean. A baked bean infact
November 25th, 2009
thankyou to all the other scumnations out there that are making this defamation of a racist possible. Its only with your help, that we’re winning the war on racism
November 25th, 2009
anti religion is not racism 118 its anti religion, now go to bed while i fuck your mummy while watching a child porn movie of the prophet mo ham ed and his little wife shagging on their wedding nite.
November 25th, 2009
Or at least that’s how my father/uncle/boyfriend tried to justify fiddling me on camera when I was a baby, just like he did with Baby P. I must say besides his BNP talent of bum-fucking young boys, he did a great job with the lighting on my young, yet loose anus. But despite our western culture of bum-fucking young boys in the name of “freedom”, it just doesn’t quite wash when trying to claim similitude of the Prophet. Maybe because he didn’t condone bum-fucking young boys and whoring your own mother out to Muslim penises for a miserly price/bottle of buckfast.
November 25th, 2009
Hey scum thats a nutter who spends his spare time wanking at the thought of his prophet shagging underage girls, like most muslims i would say
November 25th, 2009
He’s probably a raghead who works in a primary school who steals the little girls knickers to sniff in his room while writing all these articles
November 25th, 2009
To the author of “I have the intelligence of a single bean. A baked bean infact”
I’ll have you know I’m actually a very intelligent individual, the only thing quicker than my wit, is my trigger finger (NRA, not Xbox). If Islamic extremism keeps rearing its ugly head it Britain it won’t be long before there’s a civil war with the EDL, and I’ll be on the streets with them.
November 25th, 2009
Hey S he thinks you are me that’s how dumb he is. But show me an intelligent muslim and i’ll say the corrupt bastard bought his degree.
November 25th, 2009
if he’s a muslim i hate to think what his wife looks like. no wonder they all cover their faces
November 25th, 2009
That’s why they all go bum sniffin on a friday
November 26th, 2009
Whereas we shag underage boys. A bit like how pig-fucking cum-coloured BO, piss and shit stinking white men fucked Baby P while his mum stuffed her face with food and watched porn.
November 26th, 2009
Where as we go baby-boy bum-fucking such as Jason Owen did with Baby P daily.
November 26th, 2009
And S, show me a penis and I will show you something I don’t have.
November 26th, 2009
Yes, I will stand alongside the EDL and run for my life with them from Muslims who will clearly knock 7 shades of pigeon shit out us just like we ran in Harrow, Birmingham, Upton Park and Bury Park in August.
November 26th, 2009
Where as our women don’t cover anything, especially on Friday night. Because they are all whores and that’s why none of us know who our Daddy’s are. Our women all have scraped-back greasy hair, push the prams of their bastard children, spend all their dole money on 10-boxes of B&H Silver and 6-packs of Carlsberg while stinking of BO and piss and spreading their legs to the first STD-wanter who buys them a single bacardi and coke.
November 26th, 2009
Hey Guys i found out who the nutter is. While i was on the troll last nite i came across him pretending to be other people in the photo section. He’s an intern at vice, one of the sad cunts who works for fuck all. I would know his style of writing anywhere. Going by what he says i would say he is ex public schoolboy.
November 26th, 2009
Going by what he says he must have been a fag
November 26th, 2009
yeah must have been a miserable life without his mummy. but thats the middle class for you. they have kids and get shot of them as quickly as they can Public school would have been all fag fag fag for him
November 26th, 2009
Given the fact the previous 2 posts I posted were submitted within 4 minutes of each other, I thought I might as well stop pretending to be 2 seperate people in trying to portray myself as actually having friends.
As you can see from my previous confession, “While i was on the troll last nite”; I am clearly a sad cunt who spends all my time trolling websites whose administration I oppose.
Although I claim to go to University, my trolling websites like these leaving comments making people realise what a dickless penis-inhaler I am clearly shows I have no reality friends (or virtual reality friends for that matter, hence leaving comments with numerous aliases within minutes of each other). I am a loner and a sad cunt. I will most probably kill myself at some point, thus doing the noses of the world a massive favour given the fact I am such a smelly bastard.
November 26th, 2009
Now he’s all fagged out
November 26th, 2009
tam the bam
November 26th, 2009
2:37 pm
shifty
November 26th, 2009
2:41 pm
tam the bam
November 26th, 2009
3:02 pm
shifty
November 26th, 2009
3:05 pm
Although the above clearly proves that I am using 2 aliases in pretending to have friends because of the extreme closeness in submission times, I will continue to pretend I am 2 seperate people. Just like I will continue to pretend I possess a penis and don’t suck dick.
November 26th, 2009
HAHAHAHA Fuckin ace man have you noticed the words he uses penis rectum uni dorms incestuous tribadism orifices what skank cunt from the estates would use these words you’re a middle class cunt whose parents loved you so much they dumped you in boarding schoolsad cunt
November 26th, 2009
HAHAHAHA but what’s even more fuckin ace is how I trawled through each one of your posts listing the vocabulary you used because I clearly have no life and thus am the saddest cunt of them all.
November 26th, 2009
that dopey middle class cunt fuckin walked straight into that one didn’t he. You better rum to your mummy sonny and tell her what the bad boys have done to you HAHAHAHAHA
November 26th, 2009
Bet he has a late night in the office to work out what he is going to do next. No pub for him tonight.
November 26th, 2009
We’ll meet again don’t know where don’t know when
but we’ll meet again some sunny day hahahahahaha
November 26th, 2009
Well done lads Scum is proud of you
November 26th, 2009
Of course suffices to say, if 118 really was an admin of vice; he/she could clearly see the IP addresses of my multiple aliases are identical. Damn, maybe I should run to my father/uncle/boyfriend’s house to submit a comment and run back home to submit the next one so that I don’t get caught out; just like I run to my father/uncle/boyfriend’s house to suck his penis, then run home to suck my transsexual mother’s.
November 26th, 2009
We’ll meet again don’t know where don’t know when
but we’ll meet again some sunny daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
November 26th, 2009
“We’ll meet again don’t know where don’t know when
but we’ll meet again some sunny daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay”
That is what I sing to my father/uncle/boyfriend with a mouth full of his semen after he ejaculates in my mouth then tells me to get out.
November 27th, 2009
Wow these guys are actually right.
November 27th, 2009
Where’s that fuckin echo
November 28th, 2009
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November 28th, 2009
Ben’s got his white bath towel with blue stripes, around his neck today. What a pity they don’t use cylon b instead of power showers these days.
December 23rd, 2009
Really, I doubt even 2% of Uk muslims believe this shit.
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