fuck these assholes

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Great article! Nobody else is reporting what’s really happening there.

oh fuck you you lazy piece of shit. i bet you have never stood up for anything you care about in your life except hoisting your fat ass off the couch to get your microwave dinner out of the microwave. you should learn something from these people. maybe america wouldn’t be heading the same way if you did

I coincidentally happen to be in Athens right now and got stuck in the poly-technical university on Tuesday night. The city was crazy, half serious political uprising and half “fuck it, lets break shit” mode. It’s been a surreal experience. There have been massive protests, ranging from 14 year olds throwing rocks, middle aged men and women protesting police violence against their children, to socialists and communists protesting the failings of the government. What’s sad is that these literally thousands of peaceful protestors are not what are drawing media attention right now. It’s the rioters.
On MSNBC right now, there are reports of “rioters torch[ing] the capital’s massive Christmas tree in central Syntagma Square. As the hooded youths moved on, some protesters posed for photos in front of the blaze, and others sang the Greek version of ‘O Christmas Tree.’” And “The windows of two of Athens’ luxury hotels, the Athens Plaza and the Grande Bretagne on Syntagma Square, were smashed.” Similar stories appear on CNN, and the BBC. Nothing in mentioned about the nonviolent marchers. Yes the violence is regrettable, but it is not at all a random or out of proportion. A boy was shot for no other reason than badmouthing a police officer. I’ve witnessed armed riot teams charge and beat young women for throwing a water bottle.

In my mind, the Greeks are fully within their rights to react this way. Both the peaceful and violent protestors are the inheritors of a long line of rebellion against authoritarian figures that needs to continue. The Greek scorn for the police, which has recently come to a violent head, has its roots in the days of the dictatorship. The recent shooting is only the straw that breaks the camels back. Questioning, and even standing up to the “legitimate use of force” is a time honored tradition that will be, more than anything, the force that legitimately moves Greece further towards democracy. The international media should be supporting, rather than condemning the actions of Athens’ citizens. In an age when we are so bent on fighting oppression, movement toward ending dictatorial pressures should be welcomed with open arms.
Fuck those assholes who are saying that its out of proportion reactions to minor issues. Greece needs this right now.

reminds me of Fight Club

how volatile are the bombs they’re making? if they can explode from falling only a few feet, i would think there isn’t much leeway in mixing the chemicals. granted, they are polytech students, but one mistake and your face could be melting off. great story here. props for breaking these photos.

My first thought: Man, Black Bloc would piss themselves at how far off-protocol these guys are in their dress.

My second thought: Fuck those Black Bloc pussies. When they pull off something like this they can start talking.

ONLY VIOLENCE BRINGS CHANGE.

Is that a VICE tag on the burned out van in the last pic? Nice exposure.

Certainly makes the Columbia sit-in-ers look like pussies. I’m looking forward to the interview.

VICE, how the FUCK did you score these shots????????
this shit’s insane!
i guess the term ‘greek’ won’t be used in place of ‘faggotry’ much longer.

This is the birthplace of democracy–and it’s in their genes–these kids are doing the “right” thing.
Now for you lazy ass americans–wake up and take some lessons–this is how you respond when the govt. stomps on you.

This is f’ing awesome.
Makes me wish I was alive in the US in the 60’s. Also, those “columbia pussies” weren’t this badass, but the weatherman held it down. Lastly, Vice, don’t take that high and righteous tone with us, we know you didn’t know shit about Greek politics, saw there were riots, thought it was cool, and then wikipedia’d it. Don’t play cute and erudite with us…

yo poster above - vice has a greek working in the ny office. i know her and she knows a ton about greek politics. you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Wrong. We saw there were riots, asked the Greek in our office if she knew anybody involved, then called up her friend and said “Tell us about this Greece we keep hearing of.” All the above info and pictures are straight from the horse’s mouth (except the bit about them rioting last time the Vandals played, that was from the singer’s blog a while ago). What you deem “playing cute” we like to call “reporting on a situation.”

Best,
Us

these photos are incredible!!!!!
hell ya!

PS for Thalia: Sorry about calling your friend a horse.

Vice, great coverage, a little simplistic though, don’t you think? I agree with mainstream media sucking, but Der Speigel has some great shit up about the riots, you should link to their articles for people who want a more solid understanding. They seem to be calling the rioters out on some bullshit though, saying the situation isn’t as dangerous as it appears and the rioters lack purpose/direction and seem to be getting a kick out of the violence, as do the police.

is fredy faulkenberry freddie f. from LIFO?

This is so fucking beautiful! Is anybody else seeing this shit?… nothing like what I’d imagined.

Amazing shots! Vice, you sometimes engage in very good journalism! Kudos

These guys aren’t legitimate demonstrators who are majority peaceful. These guys are agents provocateurs a la Mossad, to cause the Greek government to clamp down the people under a corrupt, NWO banking system/police state.

what exactly is a “legitimate” demonstrator?
And, if what you are saying is true, this means the Greek government is totally corupt.
There were hudreds of people in the polytechnic that night and it looks pretty real!!!

i realise its exciting and i appreciate the political activism, but all the people saying “awesome! maybe now you lazy americans will fight the power etc” you would be the first people to shit in your fucking pants if this kind of chaos happened in your town.

america has been more violent than your worst nightmare for hundreds of years. hence the guns.

i’ve seen what happens when shit explodes and there’s blood everywhere - every single tough guy on the street turns into a fucking little baby.

its not nice, dont condone it, be careful what you wish for etc/wtc

Sweet shots, wouldnt get these from CNN i guess. If i were a student of the university i’d probably be pissed though. why the hell are they destroying the schools if they are protesting against bad education? of course there’s “normal” kids under the protestors, but the firebombers and anarchists should leave them their school ffs.

wow

The Dead Kennedys continue to amaze me with how apropos their lyrics were/are.
“Riot”
Rioting-the unbeatable high Adrenalin shoots your nerves to the sky Everyone knows this town is gonna blow And it’s all gonna blow right now:. Now you can smash all the windows that you want All you really need are some friends and a rock Throwing a brick never felt so damn good Smash more glass Scream with a laugh And wallow with the crowds Watch them kicking peoples’ ass But you get to the place Where the real slavedrivers live It’s walled off by the riot squad Aiming guns right at your head So you turn right around And play right into their hands And set your own neighbourhood Burning to the ground instead Riot-the unbeatable high Riot-shoots your nerves to the sky Riot-playing into their hands Tomorrow you’re homeless Tonight it’s a blast Get your kicks in quick They’re callin’ the national guard Now could be your only chance To torch a police car Climb the roof, kick the siren in And jump and yelp for joy Quickly-dive back in the crowd Slip away, now don’t get caught Let’s loot the spiffy hi-fi store Grab as much as you can hold Pray your full arms don’t fall off Here comes the owner with a gun The barricades spring up from nowhere Cops in helmets line the lines Shotguns prod into your bellies The trigger fingers want an excuse Now The raging mob has lost its nerve There’s more of us but who goes first No one dares to cross the line The cops know that they’ve won It’s all over but not quite The pigs have just begun to fight They club your heads, kick your teeth Police can riot all that they please

Gonzoface, it’s only simplistic if you’re expecting a full overview of the police situation in Greece rather than an individual account of the riots from one of the rioters. If that was what we were aiming for we would have called it something like “The Vice Guide to Everything That’s Happening In Greece” instead of what we did and the intro would have involved a lot more baseless invective against cable news journalism. In any case, as the intro says, there’s an interview coming tomorrow.

As for Der Spiegel and anywhere else with decent coverage, link us up, linky.

The greek antifa puts the world wide left to shame. This is how free human beings ought to react in the face of state oppression.

Yo Corny! Notice the ammo instructions…written in greek. Do you even know the roots of the word graffiti(note also in greek)? Mad aesthetics, even for Isreali intelligence. Take a good look-see. If you really know so much about social engineering and conspiraganda…HELP! You’re spot fucking on with with agents provacateurs; RIOTING students, teachers, citizens, and ANARCHISTS certainly aren’t stinky hippies rotting in their own stagnant pacifism. For the rest of us American Idiots, molotov cocktails are a concotion of flammable stuff, ignited just before use. Shit happens, so yeah, it should be for something that’s worth it.

She’s not saying they ARE Mossad, they’re just taking a page from the Mossad.

I for one think gov’t agents would have better equipment and more than just a fire extinguisher to put themselves out.

In the picture with the three rioters, check the guy on the right’s eyebrows. Dude’s either got some early onset grayness or is pushing 60. Maybe a professor?

Oh. I don’t want to sound like a queer or nothing, but that Adam Sandler movie ruled…and jai guru deva…cuntfaces, cheesedicks…across the universe…

with all due respect, there is no such thing as an anarchist that burns books. I’m sure there’s demonstrators out there that have the right mindset, but all that this has shown once again is that the masses, and the media just want some enterntainment.

“…The greek antifa puts the world wide left to shame. This is how free human beings ought to react in the face of state oppression…”

by burning libraries and schools?? FUCK you.

you can do way more damage to ’state oppression’ with a laptop and a suit than with a molotov cocktail

“These guys aren’t legitimate demonstrators who are majority peaceful. These guys are agents provocateurs a la Mossad, to cause the Greek government to clamp down the people under a corrupt, NWO banking system/police state.”

Fucking christ, seriously, take your conspiracy shit elsewhere. Fuck.

I knew some of the guys who trashed Columbia. In 1970 one of them moved California (Palo Alto) and he was my housemate for about six months. Some of his friends from New York came out to visit. They were fucking morons. One time they were sitting around talking about politics, and I was off to the side listening. After a few minutes it became clear that they thought senators and congressmen are elected for four-year terms, like the President. This is just one example; I could go on and on.

Alan wanted to apply for a job, so he borrowed my typewriter to write a letter. He was pretending to be a Stanford student. He started the letter right at the top of the page, with no margin at all. He didn’t even know how to write a fucking letter, but he thought people would believe he went to Stanford.

Another time I came home and Alan was standing on the front porch. As I approached the house he said “Hey Lyle, what are we going to do about those weeds in the front yard?”

“What weeds?”

“Those right over there,” he said, pointing to the rose bushes.

burning down the library. brilliant. that’ll smash the state for sure.

The rioters have the right emotions appropriate for the circumstances (police brutality, dictatorship, NWO plundering of the people etc.) but they are unfortunately (to put it mildly) not using their brains and not properly directing their rage. Instead of foolishly destroying their own nations resources (libraries etc.) they should target those Illuminati/Masonic/Jewish criminals responsible for the economic plundering of the masses. Torch the synagogues and Masonic temples and the police stations and identify all the police through their government personnel records and eliminate them in their own houses while they sleep.

In America, patriots can sneak up behind the cops while they are in their squad cars in front of the donut shops chowing down the fat-pills and pump lead into their heads and then escape into the neighborhoods. But to burn libraries and shops etc. is what one would expect from Mossad agent-provocateurs.

these guys are convenient tools of the state and media. i understand the rage but fighting pigs is a losing battle. i can’t say i condemn the selective destruction of property (i.e. banks) but rampaging is counterproductive not to mention grossly unfair to innocent people who have their property destroyed. for every 50 innocent people who’ve had their heads cracked open by baton wielding pigs the media will focus on 1 poor pig who had a brick bounce of his protective helmet. Random violence will only galvanise the public against the cause

Re: the grey eyebrows - the white stuff on their face is Gaviscon (stuff that neutralises indigestion, and also neutralises tear gas)

St. John Chrysostom, the Patriarch of Constantinople (died 406 A.D.) says:

“How dare Christians have the slightest intercourse with Jews! They are lustful, rapacious, greedy, perfidious bandits: pests of the universe! Their synagogue is a house of prostitution, the domicile of the devil, as is the soul of the Jew. As a matter of fact, Jews worship the devil; their religion is a disease, their synagogue an abyss of perdition. The rejection and dispersion of the Jews was done by the wrath of God because of His absolute abandonment of the Jews. God HATES the Jews, and on Judgement Day will say with those who sympathize with them: “Depart from Me, for you have had intercourse with my murderers!” Flee, then, from their assemblies, fly from their houses, and hold their synagogue in hatred and aversion.”

…on the extremely responsible and accurate reporting:

“Being that this whole thing erupted because cops in Greece don’t give a shit about “rules,” we’re wondering how long before they drive a tank through the gates of the school just like they did in ’73. Not very long from the looks of things (although there are reports that things are cooling off)”

What’s with everybody crabbing about Vice simplifying the situation to its standard “shit’s fucked” level of geo-political assessment? Do you not realize you’re reading Vice?

Don’t be pissed at them for not being more in-depth and boring, be pissed at the rest of the media for not getting their hands on pictures and interviews like these.

Thank you guy who explained about the eyebrows! Seriously, that was bugging me.

these peple are terrorists. The only purpose of a petrol based weapon is to cause damage or fear (terror). It’s one thing to get creative and make a point of your anger with the world or your government or your lack of job prospects, but there is no excuse to burn things. None.
Pictures of people with picks tearing up buildings and pavements for rocks to throw at the parliament do nothing to endear these people to anyone but the most thoughtless. why don’t you show your faces? because you know what you are doing is shameful.

Thanks to these anarchist shitassholes, 1000s of working class people will be deprived of work and income for the next few months at least. A bullet for each of you would be suitable. Oh, and 5 bullets for the ones that torched my car earlier this week. And 10 for the 2 female jackasses that blew up my shop.
If Greece is a democracy, they will find them, pursue them, punish them severely and jail them for indefinite time.

Yeah, that’s real democratically minded of you to call for their permanent imprisonment for sploding your car. (PS: It’d be a lot less suspicious if you’d mentioned the shop thing first instead of being like “Oh, yeah, and something major happened to me to. Almost forgot about them wrecking my livelihood. Uh, eight more bullets!”)

To Giannis from above:
Hey asshole nobody will be deprived from their jobs because of some banks are burning.
And as long as the police is killing innocent people just because they are trigger happy we will burn your stupid car again and again until you realize that human dignity and freedom are far more important from your “property”.
And yes they have to wear masks because of the police arrests/beatings and stabbings by the skinheads who work for the police.

You bunch if fucking idiots, have you counted the number of clothing shops, mobile shops and bag shops that were torched? The number of cars? And where the hell do you think the banks will claim their damage to? The state who will have to sort it out = paying them, and where does that money come from? From us, working people, not from those fucking idiotic anarchists. And “From AThens”, at least I use my real name. Look up in the phone book and you will know what shop I am talking about, you bunch of useless lazy fucking assholes.

Hey Giannis, who do you think they’re going to be paying to clean up all this shit in the street? You can cry for the banks and rail on the students all you want, but the working man’s coming out of this on top.

How many burned cars are eligible for an execution?.
What kind of a car did you have Giannis?If it was an s.u.v. maybe we should kill two demonstrators for your car alone!
Three if had a metallic paint job on.

Not to be a big ol’ buttinski here, Giannis, but would that be the Athens phone book or the Amsterdam phone book, per your IP address?

a fashionblog girl who supports the anarchists.

now i m 100% sure this thing is turning into a trend.

go fuck yourself

Hey Vice, if someone is very strong maybe he can throw a stone from Athens to Amsterdam!!!
Anyway everyone should be aware that the extreme right and the government in Greece started a massive operation of propaganda at the media and on the net that is still going strong.
Anyone who is at the streets of Athens these days knows what is really going on!
In some cases people were throwing pots and stuff from their windows to the cops to make them leave!
High school kids are attacking every day the police stations.

Mpastardoi koukouloforoi kotes giati de bgazete tis koukoules na sas doume

oust!
i bet you’re one of the skinhead pussies helping police business.
we don’t need ppl like you.
the truth is on the streets.
(this goes to the greek speakin homo erectus)

too bad car is the ultimate value of life for some people..
And dont worry about the shops, most of them here are big chain coorporations, they wont get too poor by the riots.
As for the small businesses, they were doomed anyway, from the economic shit thats been going on in greece lately…
So this is what happens when you ve got nothing to lose…
greets from greece
and thanks for your support !

greek anarchists = rich kids

yeah, like the Greek students at expensive UK universities who ‘demonstrated’ in London.
where will you be in 3 years? In your daddy’s bank you liars

Wow, that really shut Giannis up. Nicely played.

well at least they’re on the streets.can’t blame them for being rich.

This is not political protest. Maybe for a couple of organizers and 10% of the ‘protesters’ but as far as the violence, burning shit, and acting like an idiot goes, these fools are only doing this shit for one reason: it’s their idea of fun.

Props to the people marching peacefully and speaking out against the corruption and government but acting like the idiots burning their own community are patriots or somehow justified is just typical Vice-hipster cliche foolishness.

The cops have the moral high ground again.

The people marching peacefully aren’t getting any attention. Do you think that would be any different if there weren’t riots going on? Then there just wouldn’t be any coverage of the situation at all. Your idea of “political protest” sounds suspiciously close to cliche boomer-liberal complacency to my ears.

“The cops have the moral high ground again.”

Only in the minds of the status quo - both the mainstream and countercultural variety.

PS: labeling your post “doyouwantmore” is both nauseating in its naive saccharine preciousness and hilariously ironic in light of your preferred methodology. Think about what 7 years of massive peaceful protest against the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq brought. What, moral high ground? If that’s seriously your argument then you’re not in this for society, you’re in this strictly to feel good about yourself.

Get back to me when any of this rioting and protesting is at all effective - PS . by effective I don’t mean burning some poor kid’s father because he has enough courage to be a cop.

can’t you understand that when something so extreme happens (a 15-year-old getting murdered by a policeman) the reaction will (and should) be as extreme. if everyone was just marching peacefully then the state wouldn’t give a damn. now something is finally going to change (we hope). i’m not saying i’m against peacefull marches.the opposite. but in this situation was needed something drastic.

A 15 kid just got shot and killed by policemen in Melbourne, Aus. Didn’t spark riots.

A 15 kid just got shot and killed by policemen in Melbourne, Aus. Didn’t spark riots.

A 15 kid just got shot and killed by policemen in Melbourne, Aus. Didn’t spark riots.

*15 year old kid

*15 year old kid

*15 year old kid

Melbourne, Aus. is not Athens Greece, nor is the political climate similar at all. I’m sure 15 year old kids get shot by the cops all over the place.

Melbourne, Aus. is not Athens Greece, nor is the political climate similar at all. I’m sure 15 year old kids get shot by the cops all over the place.

Melbourne, Aus. is not Athens Greece, nor is the political climate similar at all. I’m sure 15 year old kids get shot by the cops all over the place.

without engaging any politics of the scenario, these are some of the first photos of real, all-out (and slightly organized?) anarchy that have surfaced in a very long time. it’s almost more ominous that some of the photos depict the kids preparing for violent resistance against their government and the aftermath instead of the events themselves. i’m not saying it’s right, wrong, or that i’m indifferent. i am saying that as i sit here looking at this in the US, it makes me feel weirdly good somewhere deep down that people haven’t been repressed the point of shrugging their shoulders and saying, “oh well.” there’s no denying that i feel this way. is that wrong?

i find it healthy…:)

Revolution starts at home.
These kids revolt against their parents and the corrupt culture they have been nurturing.
The same parents who over-protect them and over-feed them, who send them off to the army to “become men”, the parents who think its only natural for cops to carry guns, the parents who voted again and again for the fuckers in power.
The parents who are afraid of what the others might say.
The government is just the reflection of a corrupt society and a crooked state of mind.
The kids are all right.

the official lawyer approved statement that the police officer who shot Grigoropoulos gave was horrific. he basically said that the kid was a spoiled little rich kid, who got bad grades at school and was a total anarchist. so it was ok to shoot him?
although violence is obviously not the solution, they are bored, pissed off and are doing something about it. lets hope it changes that fucked up government for good, eh?

Regurding the little shops being burned, like the stupid Giannis from Athens, holand said, I would like to mention reports from journalists and photographers that say that they saw with their own eyes hooded groups coming out of riot police and break small shops and vanish in the riot police squads again. What they want is asshole Giannis to turn against the rioters. So Giannis (all of you people) shut your fucking mouth and open your dead brain to see the situation people live in. Not only in Greece.

I have been protesting the past 8 days in Athens and i came to the sadest conclusion. Nobody thinks that polititians have the solution and I partialy agree. I think that whenever the next ellections will happen we’ll deal with the situation in the states the past years where the half or even less of the popullation will decide for everybody’s future.But that should not be mistaken with the luck of political opinion. People got on the streets feeling really pissed off with the latest facts. A cop killed a little boy everybody thought. People of every age. But you could see that they were all numb. Didnt know exactly what they were supposed to do on the street. I fear that we forgot protesting. We gave the right to ignorant young people to smash everything in athens and we stood still watching.

We knew we had to get on the streets but we didnt know what to do when we got there!!

If the politicians don’t have the answers, then they should br removed from office. If the government does not serve the people, but serves the banksters instead, then the politicians should be all lined up in front of a wall and dispatched. In any case, the banksters should all have their feet encased in concrete and then thrown into the sea. Ditto for the cops.

Hail Satan!

Well this is a very very small part of the true my dear friends. The library was not burned and i know it because i personally spoke with the people working there the very next morning. We had damages mostly outside the building. The library was never a target but when you have thousands of protesters fighting the police chemicals you can easy imagine the results on the urban environment around. The photo of the “cemetery” above is really the face of the main building of the National Technical University of Athens. No one protests in cemetery’s. All the other photos are making me believe that people playing counter strike in Greece.
The reasons are much more complicated and believe me no one plays games here. We have huge problems of political corruption, multi million economic scandals and serious conditions because of police violence we are practically a nation without state. So please its very easy for all you saying “fuck these assholes” or “fuck you you lazy piece of shit”. We are not talking about lazy assholes but about thousands of people saying no more.
PLEASE see the forest. Not the tree.

Themis Angelopoulos
Actor
Athens Greece

I am against violence but the real problem here is not violence.

yeah, right. these kids CAN AFFORD to miss school, buy expensive clothes and all that jazz, cause their daddy will pay for private lessons and expensive unis abroad and they’ll find a job in no time cause their daddy knows everybody.
spare me with their fake revolution.
they want better education?
well start with NOT BURNING THE UNI DOWN YOU MORONS!
thanx

yeah, right. these kids CAN AFFORD to miss school, buy expensive clothes and all that jazz, cause their daddy will pay for private lessons and expensive unis abroad and they’ll find a job in no time cause their daddy knows everybody.
spare me with their fake revolution.
they want better education?
well start with NOT BURNING THE UNI DOWN YOU MORONS!
thanx

yeah, right. these kids CAN AFFORD to miss school, buy expensive clothes and all that jazz, cause their daddy will pay for private lessons and expensive unis abroad and they’ll find a job in no time cause their daddy knows everybody.
spare me with their fake revolution.
they want better education?
well start with NOT BURNING THE UNI DOWN YOU MORONS!
thanx

They didn’t burn down the Uni, they holed up in it to fight the cops. Also, did you ever consider the fact that your knee-jerk assumption that anybody who’d riot against the authorities is automatically some spoiled rich kid has as its complement the idea that poor people are too stupid to stand up for their own rights?

stupid???well now you are wrong my friend. never ever did i imply that. if you read through my text again, with caution, you will realise all i’m saying is that rich kids have the TIME to do that. as opposed to the less wealthy people who can’t afford to skip a day from work in order to burn buildings and promote riots. and don’t you dare say they didn’t burn the unis!!! are you an eye witness? cause i am.

so there you go.
and don’t insult me..i did not give you the right to do so

stupid???well now you are wrong my friend. never ever did i imply that. if you read through my text again, with caution, you will realise all i’m saying is that rich kids have the TIME to do that. as opposed to the less wealthy people who can’t afford to skip a day from work in order to burn buildings and promote riots. and don’t you dare say they didn’t burn the unis!!! are you an eye witness? cause i am.

so there you go.
and don’t insult me..i did not give you the right to do so

stupid???well now you are wrong my friend. never ever did i imply that. if you read through my text again, with caution, you will realise all i’m saying is that rich kids have the TIME to do that. as opposed to the less wealthy people who can’t afford to skip a day from work in order to burn buildings and promote riots. and don’t you dare say they didn’t burn the unis!!! are you an eye witness? cause i am.

so there you go.
and don’t insult me..i did not give you the right to do so

freddie u crazy!

@ Themis Angelopolous - Well said.

@ Giannis & his ilk - You’re like most Greeks living abroad. Visit Greece on holidays, enjoy the sun, food, pussy etc. then fly back home & complain about the crap roads, dirt in Athens, corrupt government etc. You will say how much better it is living outside of Greece in your more progressive country & you will continue to bash Greece for all the problems facing the country.
I’m also a Greek living abroad but these kids have more balls than you will ever have. They are standing up for the injustices that face Greeks on a daily basis. They are FUCKING doing something about it. I don’t like it that innocent peoples’ property got destroyed-that I don’t condone. But if nobody does nothing about the situation nothing will change.

Most progressive Western democracies have already turned into police states with cctv up your fucking ass watching your every move. We suck it up & think that we’re are now safer…yet the world becomes an even more dangerous place even with all those cameras installed. If only we all stood up for our rights & weren’t so fucking pussyfied we’d be living in a much better world.

Well, it seems that everyone inside and outside Greece tries to justify these hooligans’ behaviour. If a 15-year old boy breaks chairs and tables in its high school, goes every weekend to beat fans of rival football team and looks for any chance to break, steal or curse other people -especially policemen- DO NOT DOUBT there’ll be a policeman every now and then who will make the mistake to shoot one of them. When we, the Greeks, demand from our police to protect us without using guns against those we see killing policemen, breaking and setting cars and shops on fire, how should they defend our properties and our lives?
My respect to Greek police for doing their best when governors and journalists -our nation’s 3rd force- try to destroy them!

To whoever mentioned the Black Bloc: come back when you learn that it’s not a real organisation, it’s a spontaneous protest tactic. There’s plenty of websites out there that will tell you that and plenty of right-wing media hacks who’ll claim to have ‘met’ Black Bloc leaders. If I hear one more person say that BB is an actual group, I’m going to scream.

whoever said “greek anarchists = rich kids” above is probably correct. just rich kids looking for a buzz while mummy and daddy pay their way for them.

a few years ago at the G8 summit protests in edinburgh i was in the middle of things taking photos and all the little anarchists that were the troublemakers all had posh upperclass english accents. i bet mummy and daddy paid for their train tickets to get up there too.

Hey JJ Gab, just because you ran into upper-class English protestors in Edinburgh doesn’t mean that every protestor in the world is an upper-class Englishman.

Hey katerina, are you seriously justifying the kid’s shooting on the basis of the riots IT CAUSED? What kind of Lemmian wormhole logic is your brain working with here?

http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#/photo.php?pid=1784172&id=560807577

some mate photos of similar stuff

As for me, I must be destroyed, I will be destroyed, I think that we would like to destroy.

As for me it is necessary to be destroyed.

when you talk about destruction,
don’t you know you can count me out.

hey Vice, how ’bout doing a spread on these guys when they’re not rioting? when they’re sitting in cafes all day desperately seeking some sort of excitement? unable to get jobs because they’re unwilling to work. and not really caring caring ’cause daddy’s paying their way. dragging through years and years of “higher education”. granted, the education system sucks big time, the corruption leaves no room for progress, the government(s) constantly fighting for power just so they can grab it all when they get it. yes it’s frustrating, and shit needs to happen. but destruction will just lead to massive amounts of money for patch up, coming out of our very own pockets. and if you see what’s Greece’s position on Euro money, you’ll see how that’s coming along. change doesn’t come of violence. if the kids want change, let them become intelligent enough to enter the system and bring change from within. otherwise they will always be a bunch of hoods creating chaos.

whoever wrote that article has singularly managed to make me stop reading vice. well done you cretinous, reactionary, asocial sycophantic gobshite. i now can’t stand the thought of reading sensationalised, radical dribble that seems to permeate your crapulent paper. For vice to retain some dignity, poster=Starch should be hired in your place, and you should be taken out to the rioters you so blazenly respect with the words “hedge fund manager” tatood across your forehead in greek. how cool would you find them then you cliched cunt

just to add to the sentiments of others, you know precisely fuck all about anything. attempting to be a socio-political commentator when you have nothing to add apart from piss really indicates that you are a baseline cunt and should be out of the job. VICE THERE IS A RECESSION, YOU CAN JUSTIFY FUCKING SACKING THIS CUNT

as for those superficial shop owners, think about this: if you had a shop, from which you had made a living and suppoerted your family for years. having dragged through a unprecedented bad season due to the “economic crisis”, and just when you are expecting the holiday business to push you through your compiling debts, and found it burned to the ground one day, and all desperatly awaited business gone down the drain. how fucking cool would romantic revolutionary talk sound then?? have any of these dudes been faced with immediate dispair? have any of them had a family to feed? have any of them faced financial destruction? have they ever thought what would happen if daddy were in that position? who’s gonna take these poor devastated motherfuckers home?? somebody above said they were condemned anyway. that’s easy to say when you’ve never had responsibility on your shoulders. even if it’s true, nobody should have the right to take hope away from them, and to rob them of the chance to give it a hell of a fucking fight.

cunt

wassa matter prostarch? did i spoil your fun?

i can’t believe in what a mess some people are. 1.if you haven’t seen with your own eyes what’s happened/ing,then you don’t know the facts.sorry but it’s true.smash your tv and go to bed.
2.everybody’s fed up with the situation, even rich kids!wow.i didn’t know rich ppl don’t have a right to protest…
3.all coach potatoes shut up.it’s so easy to have an opinion without taking part in life (generally)

sorry but i’m so fed up with people wanting change and better lifes but don’t have the guts to win/earn/claim it.
wake up!it’s happening!

C’mon people, open your eyes! This is much more than what the media puts out there. Think about it- people fighting authoritarian figures in society: what else would the media try to do if not to criminalize all the acts? Also, do not confuse the cause with them rest of idiots out there burning down banks and shops. These are two different things. Most of the protests going on, are done peacefully, nevermind the ones who just see this an opportunity to selfishly act out their teenage hormonal imbalances. Yet what does it matter here? Look at the bigger picture: A kid was shot dead from a policeman. We have put the power in the hands of the wrong people. This is what the protesting is about, whatever way it is done in, it speaks for the freedom your ancestors fought for! The 15 year old kid’s school teachers spoke up for him to say that he was not an aggressive little rich kid in search of trouble! This is for you katerina, maybe you should use the little brain you’ve got to actually think for yourself and not believe everything that’s been told in the media.

What’s been happening in Greece is really inspiring. And certainly very interesting.

Best coverage in English, including importantly all the events leading up to the riots (at the habitual police brutality and killings, the strikes, the government spending cuts, the low wages etc) is here:
http://libcom.org/tags/greece-unrest

This is a little obsurd.

this is the life right now at greece…some kids fight’s the police because they have nothing to lose..nothing at all, only the life’s of them. FUCK THE POLITICAL’S FUCK THE BANK’S. this kid’s life will never come BACK!

i think the comment posted by starch, was far more insightful than your piece. The Vice article comes across as ‘Vice do anarchy’.On one hand its good that you are bringing these topics to light and creating discussions between people, but the way you have written this is completely biased…just like the rest of the news coverage that you condemn. I am not pretending to know the ins and outs of Greek politics because i don’t but your article is completely uninformed and is just like ‘YEH YOU GO ANARCHISTS’. I’m all for protesting, but this violence appears to be causing a divide between the general public and the anarchists, if the people are beginning to disassociate themselves with the anarchists then surely the reform that they both want will be far harder to achieve.And what happened to that kid is fucking awful and the country has every right to be up in arms (hands not guns)…..
‘I believe we need to articulate the reasons we’re protesting.’
This comment by one of the protesters Mohammed seems to sum it up. We all start out with good intentions, wanting change but if your pouring petrol over people it cant just be a angry reaction to a kid getting shot, you’ve got to have fucking thought about what your doing and be able to articulate why. On the other hand the fact that the people of Greece are protesting for a fairer society and getting the worlds attention, well, that’s fucking amazing. Kids in Britain dont protest enough. APATHETIC GENERATION.

At the very bottom line of it, police brutality, inequality and corruption is a fact of life in Athens, and the rest of Greece.

Greek students, unlike those in the US and UK, don’t pay for tuition fees so Universities are government funded. The students that can afford to pay, study abroad. Unfortunately the ones that can’t afford it have to put up with, endless teacher strikes, which often add an extra couple of years to your graduation, increase your costs in keeping yourself in education. The ones with money, and now a decent education, come back and walk into well paid jobs because of parental connections.

The rest are forced to work for pittance, in jobs with no future, or careers. To make matters worse, the lack of government organisation sees employers getting away with unfair treatment and exploitation of young workers. I have friends who repeatedly find themselves out of work because their employers would not pay them as agreed. Its frustrating for people who want to do things with their lives but keep on hitting dead ends.

The people feel alienated from their government. They don’t see the option of “changing things from the inside” as being there.

Police brutality is just the cherry on top and is the most apparent symbol of the governments apathy towards their peoples civil liberties and expectations. Unfortunately, they are the government’s licensed user of violence, the ugly face which represents the flawed system when things escalate.

To me it’s not suprising that this has happened now, irrelevant of the excuse. Greek culture and history is heavy on defiance, rebellion, heroism against foreign and internal oppression. It serves to create a strong feeling of national identity which stems from the people as opposed to the government. This is not to say that everybody has the same goals.

I think its easy to point the finger and say, this is a bunch of kids, looking to cause mayhem for fun, which on an individual level most of them probably are! But my question is, if that’s what kids do for fun, why doesn’t this happen where you live?

I’m not one for glorifying violence and vandalism, and do feel for the people who have had their property damaged, or their lives ruined because of this. But do i think the message that something isn’t right has been sent? The simple answer is yes. The magnitude of the response to the shooting, sends a message, pull your thumb out of your corrupt comfortable arses and do something. We don’t have to sit around watch you get fat, while you pretend we dont exist, we are the people, we are the country, you work for us, don’t fuck with us.

you fuck wits don’t know anything about Athens, shame on