We were a little oblivious to the big ol’ can of God-worms we were opening when we posted our interview with Michael Travesser (the supposed second coming of Christ) and then the subsequent email sent to us by one of his former followers. Suffice it to say, the deluge of comments that ensued from the Big Man himself and his devotees probably would have creeped the shit out of us if we could make heads or tails of what all they were on about half the time…
Travesser and his pals steadfastly denied bedding down nude with his virgins, but then over the weekend we anonymously received this 50-page screed about the “Spiritual Consummation of the Seven Virgins.” We know what you’re thinking, “So, did he zoink them or what?”
Well, here’s a greatly, greatly abridged version of what we were sent if you want to try to figure it out and tell us, but we understand if you’re getting a little yawny at this whole thing (we’re starting to feel the same way)…
The Father in heaven has recently taken our church into a deeper experience, especially in regard to the earth view of God’s images and symbols as opposed to seeing them from the viewpoint of heaven… In our land here, I saw that God was setting up circumstances with us, to bring men to judgment. This judgment was not merely for those in the world, but for those closely associated with our own congregation. It would be a judgment based on how men judge themselves…
The Father told me that the judgment would begin when two young virgins would come and ask to lie naked on my bed with me. The Father did not reveal to me that I should be naked with them. I dared not share this with anyone, not even my closest associates, to avoid a personal creation of those things out of the imaginations of men. I never uttered a word of what Father had shown me. This startling revelation would indeed serve to judge the church, for it would open up into a giant exposure the true motives and intents of the soul… The two virgins who were to come, would be seen by me as pure, holy, souls, whom I was responsible for. They would be as children to me, innocently coming to lie down with and be close to daddy. But the world would view this from their own perverted tendencies, and their own lusts, and see either the girls, or myself, as coming from the place of sexual attraction, or with me, molestation…
What actually would be happening is that the young virgins would be coming to lie naked with God, and His Spirit would come upon them and deliver them from their fears and personal torments. I would hold them, put my hand on their heart, and they would be healed. At the same time, the world stands judged because if this were to happen in the world, the girls would be molested and the men of earth would be hot and salivating to do something to them. For me, the young women would be as with a physician, and one who understands the issues of the heart and soul. It is my Life for theirs. Two weeks after Father told me these things, beginning July 12, a young woman came to my house. She stated to me after some discussion that it was on her heart to lie naked on my bed with me. I remembered what God had already told me would happen, so I consented, fulfilling the Word as from the Father in heaven. After the virgin woman left my house, I knew the second virgin would soon come.
The next day, July 13, another young woman came to my door. She seemed quite troubled and afraid to tell me what the Father had put upon her to do. I waited and she finally told me that Father had put upon her to lie naked with me on the bed. She said that the vision had been coming to her for about two weeks. This was the second virgin, as the Father had said. The Father told me that this event would also mark the acceptance of the church. What this revealed was that the church, “the Woman,” would lie down naked and yielded to the Son of God… Immediately the five other young women whom the Father had called to be His messengers came to me individually and told me that it was on their hearts to come and lie naked with me on my bed. But there was more.
The young ladies shared with me that they saw clearly that I am the Son of God, and their desire to be with me was not a human drawing. Since receiving their request, they shared how they had been delivered from fears and other emotions that had troubled them, when they were naked and vulnerable with me on my bed, and six of the young women desired a closer connection with me and asked for an intimate physical relationship with me. My response to each one was that the Father would arrange those things which were on His heart to accomplish and He would arrange anything which was to come. This revelation was initially startling to me, for I had never considered it before they had requested it of me.
My first inner-response to these “intimacy” requests was a terror of what that would mean to me. For one thing, I had no desire for a physical relationship with these young women. It was not that they were not worthy souls, but the mountain of impossibilities for these things seemed staggering. I began to consider the ramifications and my self-interests. Could I survive such a thing? But more than that, two of the young women were legally minors, and that could mean jail time… Now it becomes evident how the church would be judged by these events. Two of those persons who requested intimacy were minors. Truly, if I were to carry out this request, I would, according to the state, be a criminal… Shortly after this, while in prayer one evening when I told God that I would not be doing these things, I felt the Holy Spirit leave me.
I felt as though the Father was saying to me, “Okay, I will release you and get someone else to carry out My purposes.” I was suddenly stricken with a terror I have not felt before. Also, I was without God, and confusion began to set into my mind. I called out immediately for the Father and asked Him not to take His Holy Spirit from me, for I would be left desolate… After this revelation of the removal of the Spirit, I told the Father that I would do whatever He asked of me, but I could not live without His Spirit. I prayed this way for about three days, and on the third day the Holy Spirit returned in a double portion… I decided not to share any of these things with the parents or the church members, and I told the girls to keep it to themselves and speak of it to no one. I did this to take the “cult leader” pressure out of it. I knew that men of influence might be able to convince their congregations to do one thing or another… Their earth view, the carnal and natural view of man, with their own perversions, blocked them from seeing heaven’s view.
One sister wrote to me a little time ago and said, “I want to go all the way with God or not go at all.” So, Father said, “Okay, I will give you something to go all the way with.” So He brought the vision to her, and she did not even go one step with God. She stopped right there, consulting her miserable flesh, to see if it was safe to follow God. She was like the Israelites who feared their earthly giants and would not go all the way into Canaan with God. They failed, and were doomed to spend the rest of their lives in their wilderness wanderings, lost and without God in their natural world. I would not give a stick for any soul’s religion that is a religion of self-protection. The religion of my Father is intimate, vulnerable, naked, and truthful. One of the Seven said to me, “I saw that our nakedness is the returning of the soul to Eden. Adam and Eve were bound up in their flesh when clothed, but when naked they could walk in the cool of the evening with the heavenly Master without shame or deception…”
This hard time was also meant to drive away the dishonest in heart who lie about believing in God when they do not believe in God at all. They only believe in their perverted imagination formed by the corruptions of their own mortality. They say that they want to go all the way with God, but they do not mean it. They actually go all the way with their flesh instead. The Father has revealed these most difficult things to make His children ready for the year of rest, and to thrust the dishonest in heart into their year of trouble. For as the children of Israel, they are disingenuous and self deceived… No matter what the future holds, as I laid on my bed, the Father told me this: Tell the mob, who is against this land, there is no child pornography, adultery, fornication, molestation, human marriage, polygamy, or sex. Those are the crimes of your world, but not the crimes of My world.
MICHAEL TRAVESSER

Reader Comments
May 21st, 2007
9:48 pm
Let me be the first to say.. what the FUCK?
May 21st, 2007
10:58 pm
oh right, like you wouldn’t fuck the girls if you were the cult leader…
May 22nd, 2007
1:13 am
ha ha, he totally fucked them.
May 22nd, 2007
2:42 am
Only a self-indulged douche uses a capital ‘M’ when saying My. What a shit bag.
May 22nd, 2007
4:33 am
so lemme get this straight, god wants his son to lay with naked female children, then pre-pubescant children want to have sex with him, so he must oblige or else god will ask someone other than his own son to do his will?
where do i sign up?
May 22nd, 2007
4:34 am
that’s a joke if you didnt catch my facetiousness
May 22nd, 2007
5:29 am
Oh this is Epic-ly Rich… This dude had got some holy swollen feelings and what delusions of grandeur! Wow! You know he has ‘administered’ to his virgins plenty a times.. You know he’s got the ’stink finger’ BAD! Plus, he keeps coming back to your ‘abomination’ of a website to shore up his ego.. Yeah, way to go Jezus V2! Nice try. Say.. those are pretty nice sandals! I wonder do you shit in a hole like they did in 2000 BC too?
Love it.
May 22nd, 2007
5:32 am
the truth is, god did get someone else… now they’re doing 12-15 and get regularly reamed in the showers.
May 22nd, 2007
10:17 am
he zoinked them alright. ALL RIGHT!
May 22nd, 2007
4:48 pm
HOT DAMN MIKE!
a double portion of the holy spirit! does that shit come with fries? i’m dying to know, does jesus do it missionary when he’s coming all over a girl with his god come? ain’t nobody do me like jesus! if it would be possible, i’d love to hear some testimonials from the ladies (hot ladies of the cult cum clean!) describing what it was like to “lie down with daddy!” i guess you’ll be in prison for the rapture, eh mike? too bad. make sure you ask for a cell with a view so you can enjoy the show. i think you’ll find you have a visiting room full of vice readers on nov 2, laughing at your silly ass. whattya say team, road trip? i hear pedophiles get treated really well in prison, so you should do fine, pal.
ps. don’t try that ‘i am jesus’ shit on those big mexican convicts. they hate it when people fuck with their religion. you might get shanked in a very uncomfortable place. you horny devil!
May 22nd, 2007
6:32 pm
MICHAEL TREVASSER IS A TRAVERSER OF 14 YEARS OF CHILD ABUSE. HE DOTH TRAVERSE THE 15TH BUT IT WAS NOT THERE. HE IS A FISHER AND SPOONER OF THE TIGHT WIRE OF A CLENCHED THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GUMP. HE DREAMS ABOUT SPLITTING NEEDLES WITH A BLOOD HAM HOT DOG CALL JESUS CHEEZUS BENT PENIS
Growing up Mike was a crazy boy dreamer, visioning and always crazy about sleeping naked in godless rape with uneducated emotionally stunted young baby girls. In a way Jim Jones and David Koresh were better because at least they killed their victims fast while Jesus II make them rub his pee pee till they get raped by A Friend Of The Family
Love, A Friend Of The Family
May 22nd, 2007
6:38 pm
Arooooooooooo the ladies are minging. I think Mike is actually just a senile old fart hippeee with a pot sozzled and acid scarred personality abortion so he lets these ugly little troll cunts suck his pamphlet money dry and run roughshod over his farm. He’s a victim – a refuge for girls who are so hideous and dog snout penetrated and socially named jerry jerry that they’ve formed a coven of never sit a babyface babysitters club that you’d wouldn’t let into your house to suck the shit from your distended spicy piri piri sprinkled dildo colon let alone wack off your kids. Hell knows their parents didn’t want these easily led little stepford zombs - they too dowdy for scientology and too country for prostitution and Mike ends up whipped by his 12 apostles of ones… Its warming to the inside of my ass and the back of my walls thinking about the clusterfuck shit draping urine sluicing thru his teeth two left feet in his ass with horned nails wriggling up in his ass that must go on at night in the beddd
May 22nd, 2007
7:20 pm
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May 22nd, 2007
7:25 pm
Yes, this is exactly what happened. What do you mean, “come clean.” This is old news. I posted it last year. I have never denied this. I denied that there was sex, and I denied that the girls saw me naked.
But even so, as I said, there was no sex involved, or anything close to it. Those who hate me (and there are many of those), would like the world to believe there was sex, so that they might make me out a criminal, as everything was construed to make Jesus a criminal. A criminal does not publish his activities and make them public as I have done. But I wrote some of this information myself, just as stated here. The “virgins” wrote most of the 50 pages given you.
I would say this however. Whoever sent this personal information (50 pages) to Vice, most of it written by the girls themselves, is pretty low and vile. In those pages the girls exposed their most intimate connection with God’s instructions to their hearts. Much of it is allegorical. But all you can do is construe it from the dark side, in which you live. I think I know who it was that betrayed these girls, but these young ladies who were carrying out God’s instructions to them, are betrayed by this person who sent Vice these papers from them.
Don’t all people deserve a little privacy especially from those who do not understand what is written or why? The one who sent this material even hides behind a bogus name, or no name. Sending you this material, some of which was written by an underaged girl, might even be construed as slander, since it is being construed into something other than what it was. We have not hidden, and the girls surely were not hidden in all of those 50 pages. We just believe that some things are considered personal. We have kept NO secrets at all. If this were a secret it sure would not have been written out for everyone to read. Don’t you have some personal things that you do not trumpet all over the earth? Would you like someone doing this to your children making the world believe something other than what was actually on your child’s heart? Vice, you have some responsibility in this. You cannot escape your own culpability. You accuse me of being indecent, while it is actually you, and those who feed you personal information that was the girl’s own business who are indecent. This person even betrayed the heart of the minors who were then requesting these things from me, by God’s own instructions to them. These things were never my idea, but God’s idea in them, and I truly believe one reason was to expose you. Your own corruptions are the glasses you wear when viewing what these little ones did. I was only instructed to let them fulfill their requests. God never gave me to be sexual. It was never on me to go that way.
But Jesus said and says to this person who sent this material to you, “When I was daily with you (previous member) in the temple, you stretched forth no hands against me (even though you knew everything about me): but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.” Luke 22:53.
I wonder what this little wretched soul was thinking all of those years when she was sitting in my congregation knowing all about me. She sang with us and gave her testimony and believed everything. Now suddenly everything has changed for her. Her own personal life has turned very wretched, and I am sure the Vicites would just love her now. She is just your kind of “lady.” If what I did was wrong, why then did she not trumpet it then? Self interest is a terrible deceiver.
I truly feel sorry for this wretched little soul and for Vice. It is truly your time of darkness. It is evident, you have lost your heart and soul. A dog has more natural decency.
May 22nd, 2007
11:49 pm
Our Messiah Friend is HERE
He has come the final time
But so many souls won’t let Him near
His Words of Life they refuse to hear
He is my Life, and my only Way,
My Harbor and my Stay,
To some others He is a rock
They trip and fall and mock
They cannot see God’s Son
And all that He has done
Because through their own eyes they look
And see themselves — a crook
He would have gathered You in His cleft
But you insisted on being left
So He turns away His eyes
And will leave you to your lies
God retreats His hand from earth
And draws His people home
Soon earth will be consumed in flames
As they’ll realize they have lost the game
May 23rd, 2007
12:59 am
you’re digging your own grave a little deeper every time you post, mikey-boy. i almost feel sorry for you. you are clearly suffering from a messianic complex to beat ‘em all and this has led you to fuck children. at least i’m pretty sure that’s what you just admitted to. does anyone else think that what he’s written here is basically a confession of statutory rape? oh i know you didn’t find it SEXUAL, jesus, but if you stuck your little dinky in a 14 year old, you are in fact a pedophile who should be in jail - that’s how we see it out here in reality. whether or not god told you to do it or whether or not those silly girls thought they were “going all the way with god,” is entirely irrelevant in the eyes of society, by which you will be judged. you said, “I was only instructed to let them fulfill their requests.” and their requests were for some sort of sex, were they not? sounds like some kiddie diddling to me, mike. sounds like you’re going to jail, hopefully in part because of what you’ve written here. shit, maybe some of us vice readers are in for a reward (information leading to the successful prosecution of … etc.) for baiting you into admitting your filthy sins. i think i’ll spend my reward money on a nice trip to thailand. kidding!
p.s. “one of his virgins,” can i get your number? some people say i look like jesus …
May 23rd, 2007
1:16 am
pps. travesser, don’t care about the crimes of our world? guess you won’t care about a big, angry prison cock in your ass either. enjoy!
May 23rd, 2007
1:20 am
rational: What is it about “no sex” that you do not understand. You truly must be totally perverted. Is all you do is molest children? It seems so by how much you talk about it. You are simply demon possessed and your internal buddies are having a field day with you. What kind of porno sites do you visit? Do you spend all your time on child porno? Seems so. Nobody stuck anything in anyone. Why don’t you put your real name and picture on this site so we can all see who this perverted soul is? Why are you hiding?
May 23rd, 2007
1:21 am
JUDGMENT OF THE LIVING
The moon shines red as the blood of the dead
The lights of the night are failing
When all who have chosen their own courses instead
Their voices are heard in the darkness with wailing.
The shining sun refuses its light
While all the rivers flow upstream
The springs of water flow back in their sight
Nothing imagined in their wildest dream.
Dark clouds clashing over bloody seas
The waves and the winds roaring
They know not for what they please
Confusion everywhere, the people imploring.
The cities crumble in the flames of terror
Hopes and their dreams no longer soaring
All hearts tremble for the fears of their error
Denying their part in nature’s scoring.
Portents are revealed in all places and spaces
But all eyes blind, ears stopped to their teaching
The people awaken, famine seen on their faces
Truth that comes in this night, never reaching.
The signs in the heavens no one knows or hears
Yet Messiah comes to His settle place
Virgins, His word wait, kept o’er the years
The city came down and has filled its space.
Michael stands, and the dragon flees
For hiding places down deep in the earth
Armageddon gathers the hosts of its trees
Far and wide they come to His birth.
The rivers are dried, there is no place to hide
For the way is prepared for the Kings of the east
The four winds are loosed, the terrors abide
All men are gathered to the Lord and His feast.
Michael stands up, the trumpet is blown
The nations awake denying His name
All stand judged by His presence alone
Men who are humble or men who have fame.
Judging God for the Son He has given
For the light He has already shown
Multitudes now in the vale of decision
Many lay dying, many unknown.
The hosts of heaven see and know
and are content to lie in His bed
From the places of rain and the places of snow
All are awake, the judgment brings dread.
They kiss the Son, or hide under a rock
The great city divided in parts
Judging themselves as they stand in their shock
They did not know Him, down deep in their hearts.
The Father Himself asks the people to look
And see from the Son if their soul will reprieve
By the judgment they place on the One they forsook
For He came in a way that they did not believe.
Michael Travesser
May 23rd, 2007
4:43 am
pffffffffffffphhhhhphhhhhhhhpppppp!
Oh my goodness, pardon me.
May 23rd, 2007
6:05 am
mikey mikey mikey,
people who refer to themselves in the third person are, without exception, boring and egotistical cunts. and apparently bad, bad poets as well.
the no sex part. well, here’s the part i don’t understand. you say no sex happened in one breath and then say shit like, it was god’s will for me to do as these girls asked (to go all the way with god!). i don’t know what going all the way means to you. in fact, i don’t care. you were frolicking around naked with 14 and 15 year old girls you dirty old fuck and you are a pedophile, whether you fucked them or not. and this reverse psychology game you play of calling me a pedophile because i call you one is pretty pathetic. this sort of simpleton’s mind game may work on the infantile, biddable and lost people you associate with, but not with me. the last time i was naked with a 15 year old girl, i was 15. sorry to burst you bubble there, god-boy. did you have a troubled youth? not get laid as a young lad? stay fixated on the young poontang, did you?
if you want to know who i am, answer me this: what are you doing on nov. 2nd? i’ll tell you who i am, where i live, how to find me. you can come over to my house on nov. 2nd and explain to me why the rapture failed to show up. i’m not hiding anything, certainly not from a silly old man like you.
also, if you hate me so much, why don’t you just strike me down? you are god, aren’t you? all powerful and all that bullshit? well, here’s your chance. show all those naughty vice readers your stuff. scare those deviants straight into jesus! send a big lightning bolt up my ass and blast me to pieces. i’m waiting …
one more thing. why do you keep coming back? do you like the abuse? on your website, some weeks ago, you claimed that the world would never hear from you again. then, last week on this very website you said once more that you would not be heard from again. why do you lie to us, jesus? you can’t stay away, can you? like to get your nose rubbed in it like a little piggy? maybe you should leave the children alone and try some s&m with some big bitch beating your ass raw. maybe a little discipline is just what the doctor ordered.
send more poetry! pissing myself with mirth.
May 23rd, 2007
6:22 am
ps. that’s MR. rational to you, pal.
May 23rd, 2007
12:16 pm
dude I’m totally JAMMING to these lyrics!
May 23rd, 2007
12:18 pm
Mr. rational you are taking this waaaay too seriously man. it’s like, after you’re done with it, don’t sit in the bathroom talking to the toilet on and on. just pump a dump and go bro
May 23rd, 2007
1:58 pm
Okay MR. Rational, I will answer your questions and also call you MR as you request. I think it fits. First I would like to challenge you, since you seem so willing. I am willing too. I would be very satisfied to meet you at the local FBI office. I would submit to a full investigation and you would submit to a full investigation. MR rational, you are a child molester. I can prove it. The sewer that you spew onto this blog is easily accessed by any 10 year-old girl. I would also like to see Vice investigated for child pornography in that this site is not protected from minors. There is no 18 year old access page, but any minor is subject to your sewer mouth. This is molestation and you are doing it MR hiding-under-a-rock. I would like the FBI to investigate your computer records and see if you ever access porno sites, or child porno sites. They are sure free to check mine. It seems that your browser history would be full if it, since that is all you talk about. Or do you make sure and clear your browser history so no one will know? This may seem like an idle threat from me, but the last time rumors were manufactured by the dead, I invited the FBI to come and investigate here. I called them myself. They spent half a day. They brought child services out, and they all went home in the afternoon. I happen to like the FBI, for they are far more of a gentleman than you. I would cooperate with them anytime.
Oh, I see now MR. You admit to frolicking around with a 15 year old. Did you have sex with her? So you admit here to having sex with a minor? No, I did not have sex the girls that I knew when I was growing up. I could not bring myself to do that to a girl. It would violate her person. Girls were honorable to me, and not a play thing as you have made them. But now I understand why you are so disgusting. It is because you are.
Again, you don’t read and you don’t understand. What are you making out of November 2? I have made nothing of it. I have never made anything of it. What about November 7 or 10 or 15? What about December 10? You have one gigantic imagination and you claim that I have one. Well, the FBI has investigated my imagination, so how about you? Truly, I would like them to investigate Vice for making your vile sewer accessible to 10 year old girls. Now that you admit to having played with minor girls in the naked, and probably more, I would think that Vice is somewhat responsible for your child pornography on this web site.
You accuse me of not keeping my word. That’s right, when molesting minors goes down the tube, change the subject. Now we will talk about this other thing. I am not posting on the other threads. I said my piece. But this is a new thread with new information and I answered it. When I feel it is sufficiently answered I will not speak again on this thread either, but Vice seems to relish the thought of getting itself deeper into the responsibility of this, maybe calling child pornography “free speech.” It’s not. Your words on this blog are pure, verbal, child porn.
My statement of not hearing from me again had to do with my Web site and intercession. I am not posting any longer, for I have closed the site of intercession that I had. Intercession is history. It’s too late to save the people for they are set. They like it like they have it, right? Am I wrong about that? Can you still repent? But I can assure you that you will be hearing from me again in ways that I will not now mention, but it will help the fire burn.
I would say MR rational, it would be good for you to get your facts straight before you vomit your ideas here for 10 year old girls to read. You are a polluter and a molester. You have even admitted to it when you were 15. Don’t hide behind your age. When I was 15 I was still me and when you were 15 you were still you. You didn’t marry the girl, so it was just what it was. So MR hiding-behind-your-no-name, this issue is not going away until you stop molesting children. VICE, you may very well put a block to minors on your mag as long as this no-name posts here. This isn’t funny.
NO MR, I have never frolicked around with 14 or 15 year olds.
Finally, you seem to stumble over “going all the way with God.” You put your spin on it. You put your own frolicking around with a 15 year old girl on it. I know I am wasting my breath, but you asked, so I will say it. Going all the way with God is having God come into you and then living there in you. You become pregnant with the Michael Child. This is in the Spirit. Jesus said, “I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, that they may all be ONE; even as You, Father, are IN me, and I IN YOU, that they also may be IN us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory which You have given me I have given to them, that they may be ONE even as We are ONE, I IN them and You IN me, that they may become perfectly ONE, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as You have loved me.” John 17:20-23.
Jesus was saying here that he was praying that everyone would be just like him. Remember the Spirit impregnated Mary and Jesus came out. When the Spirit impregnates us, the Christ comes out. We are as Christ, because we are impregnated as Mary was impregnated by the Spirit. Well MR, you asked. Yes, the soul is intimate with God. God comes in and lives. This is what happened to me. God came into me and He stayed in me. The Michael Child was born in me. He has done that with everyone who has invited Him into them, going all the way with God.
Most people who call themselves Christians don’t go all the way with God. They only do a pretend going all the way. They hold hands or go on a date, but a true Christian goes all the way with Him. HE COMES INTO THEM AND THEY GET PREGNANT!!!!! WITH HIM. This is what the biblical marriage of the Lamb is about. It is a marriage, where people marry God and become pregnant with the CHILD (Christ). This is in the Spirit and they become one with the Spirit. Paul said this: “But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.”
This is why the devil has made so much out of sex and pornography. It is to make it impossible for mankind to see the truth of God’s marriage. He makes it into sex and flesh as you have done. He converts everything out of the Spirit and into the flesh so that it becomes foolish or offensive. The devil wants you dead, and it seems that he is having pretty good luck getting you there. Of course, it is how you want it, for “he that sins against me wrongs his own soul: all they that hate me love death.” Proverbs 8:36.
May 23rd, 2007
4:17 pm
methinks jesus doth protest a lot too much. sowwy jesus, did i make you angwy? you silly twat. your naked old ass and your young naked girls in your bed cumming with god is the only perverted thing on this thread. you obviously don’t know this, but it’s fairly normal and totally acceptable for two 15 year old kids to get naked together. it’s not filthy, and talking about it is not child porn. you are a sick little man if you think so.
hmmmm, what else? are you now saying that the rapture isn’t coming on all saints day? get your story straight, man. we need to know when to start laughing at you even harder.
oh, and why haven’t you smited me yet? cum on jesus, do it. fuck the fbi, you are not bound by the laws of man! you are the law, bitch! you are one bad ass jesus and you don’t take no shit from no dirty perverts! zap!
gotta go surf some midget fisting porn. adult midgets! you dirty minded little monkey!
May 23rd, 2007
4:19 pm
ps.
SOON MY NAME WILL BE REVEALED FROM ON HIGH UNTO THEE FILTHY SINNER MICHAEL TRAVESSER! REPENT!
May 23rd, 2007
4:27 pm
pps.
i will quote my good friend peter on the subject of child molestation: “… now i admit that i do not have the time or energy for porking little kids. i do know that when you pork little children, it’s a drag having to talk to them and appear interested in their long-winded self-possessed infantile meanderings …”
oh lord jesus! not a joke about kiddie diddling! straight to hell! here’s the thing, mike. they are only words. neither of us has ever gotten naked with someone 40 or more years younger than we are. talk minus action equals nothing. you on the other hand …
May 23rd, 2007
4:43 pm
MR, you are off the wall here:
“it’s fairly normal and totally acceptable for two 15 year old kids to get naked together.” You may just want to go read a book, but this is illegal. If you promote this, perhaps you should be the one going to the slammer and making license plates for a few years.
I have made my point, and said all that needs saying. I will leave you to your sewer. I am finished with this thread.
May 23rd, 2007
11:10 pm
it’s illegal for two 15 year old kids to get naked together? maybe in some backwater right wing fundamentalist christian society full of repressed douchebags, but now where i come from. totally legal. totally normal. not dirty. not some 60 something year old freak and some 15 year old borderline retard with a jesus fetish goin’ all the way gettin’ hot for jee-zusah! 15 year old kids do not go to jail for having sex with each other in the real world, pal. only in the sick fantasy world that you inhabit. i feel sorry for the silly bitches who are drawn to your repressed and sadistic person.
you are finished with this thread, eh? well, at least you weren’t dumb enough to say that the world will never hear from you again this time. i guess we’ll get more bad poetry and incoherent, perverted god-drivel next time vice posts something about your little gang of “virgins.”
to anyone who thinks i’m taking this too seriously. i may appear to be doing so, but rest assured i do not take travesser at all seriously. i am simply having some fun, blowing off some steam that has built up over a lifetime of seeing religion fuck up people’s minds and be used as an excuse for genital mutilation, witch burning, war, genocide, ethnic cleansing, etc, etc, etc ad nauseum. i don’t take travesser the least bit seriously. he is a joke and i have been amused by fucking with him and his merry band of jesus freaks. i do take very seriously the terrible negative effect that religion has upon people. i am truly disgusted by it. and i am not deluded enough to think that i can do anything about it by posting insults at some cut rate cult leader on viceland. i’m just having some fun and fucking with a peophile asshole and half-assed jesus of the highest caliber.
oh yeah, and i LUUUUUUVE ME SOME MIDGET PORN, TOO!
May 23rd, 2007
11:15 pm
age of consent where i come from (canada): 14
sorry, dickhead!
May 24th, 2007
12:31 am
MR, your paraphrase from Hamlet about protesting too much, I thought was especially appropriate. The only problem I see in the quote, is the same one that pervades all your responses. How do you so consistently shoot yourself in the foot?
Anyone who would objectively read your posts (I stopped a while back. It was taking on the essence of seeking fresh air in a septic tank) can clearly observe who it is that “doth protest too much.” If you could quell your cerebral flatulence long enough to take a good look at your thought processes (I know, that may require more stomach than even you have) you would see the common thread running through your responses – those things you are blaming on Michael. You are truly a Freudian delight.
With all your verbose, palaverous expressions (MR translation: “running off at the mouth”) about child molestations, only an imbecile would not understand the root cause of your own protesting too much. As I mentioned in a previous post, it is extraordinary how you so clearly reveal yourself in upchucking your accusations on others.
My responses are not to convince you, or anyone else here, of something other than what they already believe. To attempt that would be like the old saying: Don’t try to teach a pig to sing. It’s an impossible task, and it only irritates the pig.
Oh, and about blowing off the steam, MR, that is a good thing for you to do. It is when you stop doing it in this manner that the parents of the children in your neighborhood should begin to worry. So keep venting your perversions here, rather than there.
May 24th, 2007
5:55 am
Wayne and Dale (and the rest) your god is too small. I can’t believe the dialog you are involved with.What has happened to your lives …your minds? What ever happened to “you get what you settle for”.Get out of Sodom.
May 24th, 2007
6:32 am
gabe,
it’s funny how both you and travesser can only comment about the pedophilia issue. i brought up many, many other points which illustrate how mr jesus and all his followers are a bunch of hypocritical, deluded cunts. but all you guys can manage to comment upon, ad fucking nauseam, is kiddie diddling. you support this travesser fuck, who has admitted to having young girls in his old man’s bed. it is you people who are the sick fucks, not me. keep pointing the finger as much as you want. like i said before, i’ve never frolicked around naked with anyone 40 or more years my junior. only your shithead messiah has. you think he’s ok, do you? then you are also a sick, ignorant pervert.
let’s leave the kiddie diddling aside for a moment and remember one all-important thing: you two fucks, and millions like you, are suffering from such a deep perversion of mind that you believe in some fairy up in the sky who can deign to pronounce it righteous to commit rape, incest, murder, genocide and even decimate the entire population of the earth in the name of his own self-aggrandizement. you people are the sick ones. right wing christians rule the earth at the moment, and it’s in a pretty fucked up state, isn’t it?
it is very funny to me that you religious assholes keep on trumpeting the fact that your wisdom is lost on us doomed sinners and yet you can’t just give it up and shut your fucking mouths and leave us alone to enjoy ourselves. it is truly pathetic and a great example of what is so hateful about all religion: the utter inability of you superstitious motherfuckers to keep your silly horseshit to yourselves. no, you must go out and infect innocent minds. you must go out and force your shitty beliefs on the world and destroy everything in your path. you people are the lowest form of scum and are worthy of the greatest contempt possible.
gabe, go fuck yourself. you cult people are the only ones posting on this page who are out there actively fucking with children. you are the danger. you should all be locked in cages and poked at with sharp sticks.
May 24th, 2007
6:34 am
GO ON, SMITE ME JESUS! YOU FUCKING PUSSY!
May 24th, 2007
12:52 pm
My, what lengthy post. Touched a bit if a nerve, did we, MR?
May 24th, 2007
1:43 pm
The 3 main bloggers here are Gabe, MT, and MR. ALL 3 of you remind me of a bunch of kids fighting, and then when MOM walks in… they ALL 3 say, “He started it” I think that ALL 3 of you have a lot of growing up to do. haven’t you heard the term “sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can NEVER harm me?” But humanity likes to Always be right, have the last word, and to show each other down. (meet me at the FBI office) It doesn’t matter what kind of degree you are boasting of… All a degree does is make you sound a little more intelligent. But Just remember You are all the same. If you think that you are better than someone else… It is ALL in your own imagination.
May 24th, 2007
1:49 pm
Elandsus, you and Mr. Rational obviously share a common value – you both have the same god. MR just expresses the doctrine a bit more articulately. Go read Psalm 59:5-8 (especially the parts referring to belching, and making noises like a dog), and Rev. 14:7, and then, if it is still possible, try to find the God of which you clearly know nothing. But I suspect you will not do that.
I will now join Michael in departing. The responses here have become very much like watching smudged copies emerge from a Xerox machine.
May 24th, 2007
2:04 pm
Gabe you just have to be more righteous and have the last word and say you aren’t saying anymore…. I think you are full of BS.
May 24th, 2007
3:10 pm
I see you still answer to “Dale”
just like “wayne” answers to his real name. “Peds” of a feather they flock together.Still the hold of every unclean and hateful spirit. “Nice” people you are but lying always paints on a pretty face.
Yes we serve different Gods.
Mine Keeps HIS WORD.Yours twists it and wipes his mouth and says “I have done nothing”…..You all head toward the grave that calls you … your wages from a life of serving yourself.
May 24th, 2007
3:58 pm
I would like to make a parting word here also. I see some new names here, like Don, and Ross. You talk like you really don’t know much about God. When Jesus was finalizing his time with Israel, he said, “You will not see me again, till you say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.” Matthew 23:39. Well, they did see him again the next day, and they sure were not saying “blessed is he.” Did he not keep his word? Yes, he kept it, but people like you would accuse him of not keeping it. You just don’t know the heart and mind of God, or how He works, and that is why it seems confusing to you.
I am sorry to hear it Mr. rational, but, yes, you are stricken and you will be stricken as you have prayed. The rest of the mob here reminds me of the mob who confronted Jesus in the last of his work with them. They accused him of having a devil and he told them that their father was the devil. Call it an argument if you like. Others of you stand back kinda sanctimonious with your judgments of what God would or wouldn’t do. How would you know what God would or wouldn’t do, may I ask? You don’t know Him. I can tell by how you write. You all seem to be in confusion, but Michael and Gabriel are as clear as crystal. All you can agree on is that you hate Michael, but you all seem to just be making a lot of noise otherwise.
Where I live, we have a lot of wild turkeys around, and when one cackles they all do. It is really funny to watch, but it reminds me of you. They walk around with their feathers all puffed up making a cackle (and then they all cackle) pooping everywhere. It truly does remind me of Vice magazine and its host of cacklers.
But I know God very well, and I know Michael also. This exchange on Vice was necessary. “Whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.” Michael came to bring offense to the world, and from my perspective, I believe that he has accomplished that. There will be more offense soon. You will see it and feel it. Jesus said, “Blessed are those who are not offended in me.” These people who are not offended in Michael are those who go to the next world, but it is clear to me that you would not be happy in the next world, because you would have to spend eternity with Michael. I don’t think that would be heaven to you, but hell instead. Isn’t that right? I want to spend forever with Michael so I will be there.
Well, I shall go now too. bye.
May 24th, 2007
4:50 pm
sounds like coolaid coming up on the menu.
May 24th, 2007
4:56 pm
gabe, (or should i say michael)if we’re doing a word count to judge who “touched a nerve” here, i think travesser comes out pretty much on top by about a thousand fold. funny how you dicks can never actually answer any of the charges laid against you. instead you smugly quote your silly bible verses to people who know they are nothing while avoiding the serious questions.
richard river, we are not all the same. only one of us diddles kids and lies to a bunch of deluded cult followers. pretty basic distinction there, don’t you think?
goes around, so … are you going to come back and post on nov 2? tell us what went wrong with your widdle wapture? or will you be lying dead in a puddle of kool aid? don’t be surprised when the time of the supposed rapture approaches and your shithead messiah starts jabbering in a panic about finding some way to make it happen when god doesn’t show up. remember, cult is only one letter from cunt.
time to go kill some hookers, burn some churches, eat some children, wipe my ass on the bible and, shudder, gasp … read vice magazine!!!
ps.
“whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.” what? i thought you assholes were monotheists. who are these gods you refer to? zeus? allah? mel gibson? where do you come up with this shit?
as for the wild turkeys, comment. shit yeah! wild turkey, the drink of choice of the late, great hunter s thompson! i can dig anything to do with wild turkeys. if we’re going to go for animal analogies, we’ll be the
turkeys and you religious nuts can be the cult of lemmings, running full speed toward a cliff with no idea why except that the guy out front is running too. think, pig. before it’s too late.
May 24th, 2007
6:00 pm
Mr. Rational, What I don’t understand is why you seem to be so affected by what another man does or believes. You seem to have a personal vendetta against this man. Why do you tell him to think, before it’s too late? You don’t care if it’s “too late” for him. How is what you are accusing him of any different or worse than what you do? Is all you do all day, is just wait for the chance to throw-up on people? What possible pleasure can you be getting from vomiting your filth for all the world to read? I almost feel sorry for you. It must be torture to have to live under such a curse of contempt.
May 24th, 2007
8:56 pm
I think that all you guys are blowing out your ass. YEP…EVEN ME!
May 24th, 2007
11:47 pm
danny-boy,
how hard is it to understand that when a man fucks with children and lies to a bunch of cult retards that his actions are despicable and worthy of great contempt? i don’t give a shit about some deluded messianic wannabe. i do feel sorry for the idiots who are wasting their lives following him, and even more so for the silly girls who he molests. like i said before, if you religious people could only manage to mind your own fucking business and not force your sick beliefs on others i would have no problem with you.
oh, and i wasn’t addressing mr jesus when i said, ‘think, pig.’ i was addressing ‘goes around.’ but whatever, same shit different pile, right?
my life? it isn’t bad. i live out here in reality, not some fairytale. i’m having a pretty good time. sorry.
ass hole: you couldn’t be more right!
May 25th, 2007
12:43 am
o gawd! i’m so alone! everyone is against me! i feel so forsaken! why daddy, why? who’s more like jesus now, suckers!?! bwaaaaa hahahaaaaaa!
looks like wayne ‘the bender’ bent has pulled his disappearing act again and left us to quibble with his peons. well i’m sick of talking to the monkeys, bring me the organ-grinder goddammit!!!
the world will never hear from me again!!! (lying)
May 25th, 2007
2:20 pm
Well they (the benders) have gone away to their koolaid ladened ideas and schemes.It is not that they are going to drink koolaid it is that they aready have downed the deadly brew.There was oppritunity to “come out from among them” most chose to stay “one even said “it’s a cheap place to live” Like you said mr.rational let “nature” take it’s corse. Yea we are out here in “the world”and they there in their “white painted isolation”they think they read hearts. But that is not given to any man to know.They have their lord and koolaid king.
May 25th, 2007
2:59 pm
“He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy (rational and his ilk), let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” Rev. 22:11. And so it is.
May 25th, 2007
7:25 pm
r.a., if you judge righteousness by what you find in the bible, or by what people like bent spew out, then by all means go out and commit incest, rape, pedophilia, torture, murder, genocide … you know, all the shit god loves. consider joining the army; you get to do lots of that stuff without bent’s hypocritical and pathetic fear of the law (fbi) while pompously jabbering his horseshit about being subject only to god’s laws. oh yeah, thanks for pointing out that you were implying me in that silly bible quote. don’t think anyone would’ve got it otherwise. you’re a fuckin’ genius, pal. ever had a thought of your own, or do you just trumpet bible verses like a broken record? angels? fuuuuuuck. do you still believe in santa, too?
May 25th, 2007
7:41 pm
“Look, you scoffers and scorners, and marvel, and perish, and vanish away; for I am doing a deed in your days, a deed which you will never have confidence in or believe, even if someone [Travesser], clearly describing it in detail, declares it to you.
-Acts 13:41 Amplified
May 26th, 2007
12:20 am
The Wolf & the Seven Little Kids
-by The Brothers Grimm.
There was once upon a time an old goat who had seven little kids, and loved them with all the love of a mother for her children. One day she wanted to go into the forest and fetch some food. So she called all seven to her and said, “Dear children, I have to go into the forest, be on your guard against the wolf; if he comes in, he will devour you all—skin, hair, and all. The wretch often disguises himself, but you will know him at once by his rough voice and his black feet.” The kids said, “Dear mother, we will take good care of ourselves; you may go away without any anxiety.” Then the old one bleated, and went on her way with an easy mind.
It was not long before some one knocked at the house-door and cried, “Open the door, dear children; your mother is here, and has brought something back with her for each of you.” But the little kids knew that it was the wolf, by the rough voice. “We will not open the door,” cried they; “thou art not our mother. She has a soft, pleasant voice, but thy voice is rough; thou art the wolf!” Then the wolf went away to a shopkeeper and bought himself a great lump of chalk, ate this and made his voice soft with it. Then he came back, knocked at the door of the house, and cried, “Open the door, dear children, your mother is here and has brought something back with her for each of you.” But the wolf had laid his black paws against the window, and the children saw them and cried, “We will not open the door, our mother has not black feet like thee: thou art the wolf!” Then the wolf ran to a baker and said, “I have hurt my feet, rub some dough over them for me.” And when the baker had rubbed his feet over, he ran to the miller and said, “Strew some white meal over my feet for me.” The miller thought to himself, “The wolf wants to deceive someone,” and refused; but the wolf said, “If thou wilt not do it, I will devour thee.” Then the miller was afraid, and made his paws white for him. Truly, men are like that.
So now the wretch went for the third time to the house-door, knocked at it and said, “Open the door for me, children, your dear little mother has come home, and has brought every one of you something back from the forest with her.” The little kids cried, “First show us thy paws that we may know if thou art our dear little mother.” Then he put his paws in through the window, and when the kids saw that they were white, they believed that all he said was true, and opened the door. But who should come in but the wolf! They were terrified and wanted to hide themselves. One sprang under the table, the second into the bed, the third into the stove, the fourth into the kitchen, the fifth into the cupboard, the sixth under the washing-bowl, and the seventh into the clock-case. But the wolf found them all, and used no great ceremony; one after the other he swallowed them down his throat. The youngest in the clock-case, was the only one he did not find. When the wolf had satisfied his appetite he took himself off, laid himself down under a tree in the green meadow outside, and began to sleep. Soon afterwards the old goat came home again from the forest. Ah! what a sight she saw there! The house-door stood wide open. The table, chairs, and benches were thrown down, the washing-bowl lay broken to pieces, and the quilts and pillows were pulled off the bed. She sought her children, but they were nowhere to be found. She called them one after another by name, but no one answered. At last, when she came to the youngest, a soft voice cried, “Dear mother, I am in the clock-case.” She took the kid out, and it told her that the wolf had come and had eaten all the others. Then you may imagine how she wept over her poor children.
At length in her grief she went out, and the youngest kid ran with her. When they came to the meadow, there lay the wolf by the tree, and snored so loud that the branches shook. She looked at him on every side and saw that something was moving and struggling in his gorged body. “Ah, heavens,” she said, “is it possible that my poor children whom he has swallowed down for his supper can be still alive?” Then the kid had to run home and fetch scissors, and a needle and thread, and the goat cut open the monster’s stomach, and hardly had she made one cut, than one little kid thrust its head out, and when she cut farther, all six sprang out one after another, and were all still alive, and had suffered no injury whatever, for in his greediness the monster had swallowed them down whole. What rejoicing there was! Then they embraced their dear mother, and jumped like a tailor at his wedding. The mother, however, said, “Now go and look for some big stones, and we will fill the wicked beast’s stomach with them while he is still asleep.” Then the seven kids dragged the stones thither with all speed, and put as many of them into his stomach as they could get in; and the mother sewed him up again in the greatest haste, so that he was not aware of anything and never once stirred.
When the wolf at length had had his sleep out, he got on his legs, and as the stones in his stomach made him very thirsty, he wanted to go to a well to drink. But when he began to walk and move about, the stones in his stomach knocked against each other and rattled. Then cried he,
“What rumbles and tumbles
Against my poor bones?
I thought ’twas six kids,
But it’s naught but big stones.”
And when he got to the well and stooped over the water and was just about to drink, the heavy stones made him fall in and there was no help, but he had to drown miserably. When the seven kids saw that, they came running to the spot and cried aloud, “The wolf is dead! The wolf is dead!” and danced for joy round about the well with their mother.
GET IT?
May 26th, 2007
12:21 am
r.a., quoting the bible to me is like pissing into the wind.
May 26th, 2007
12:41 am
“Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.” Dan. 12:10.
May 26th, 2007
5:51 am
when you piss into the wind, it blows back in your face.
May 26th, 2007
6:04 am
you’re a good little parrot! bet if you lived in iraq you’dve had a belt full of explosives strapped to your chest years ago. 7 virgins? fuck that, try 70 you neutered cunt!
May 26th, 2007
6:20 am
try using your real name recording angel
May 26th, 2007
6:35 am
it is amazing how righteously stupid some people can be. The ones who quote the most scripture seem the most EVIL. Maybe if these guys can pound hard enough on their chests, they will achive some reward from their Guru. Or maybe he will make them his special cock-tail. He has contra-dick-ed himself several times just on this blog. He NEVER seems to answer the questions that are asked him. He comes up with long blog comments… He is alot of Hot Air…
May 26th, 2007
7:21 am
This guy sounds more like a Dick-Tator. It is too bad that he thinks so highly of himself.
May 26th, 2007
7:35 am
THE COMET IS COMING TO PICK US UP SOON, CHILDREN!
May 26th, 2007
7:50 am
so drink you COCK-tail! So you wont miss it!
May 26th, 2007
2:02 pm
“For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.” Isa 63:4.
“The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.” Ps 9:15.
May 26th, 2007
4:11 pm
Interesting…Here are two sides who agree with each other standing toe to toe, ready to virtually rip each other’s heart out if they could. If Apple developed an emulator for Microsoft’s Throat Ripper Application Tool, it seems we would see a blood crime right here on our own monitors, so to speak. And what are these wrestling and fighting about? More importantly, what spirit has these?
Both say they hate iniquity, yet both offend each other by their own behavior. Both say they abhor religion used as an excuse for crimes against humanity, yet both shun each other for using religion as the reason for their own self-defeating hatred. Both say they are justified, yet both admit they have been naked with minors. Both agree to belly-up to the bar when the day is done (sort of). The only thing they do not do, is find their common ground to rest their cases upon, in order that they may be healed of each other. Yes, all ‘heathen’ show themselves to be exactly who they are, here.
And who really cares? They do. That is, their egos do. Both are blind to their own silly looking and ineffective flailing at each other. Their out-of-control characters become but a kind of entertainment for the masses on VICEland and in LORland. They have been egged-on and have gotten egg on each other.
The awesome power of the offended ego infects, in a deadly way, the form of human inter-activities. Once unleashed and allowed to fulfill the intended ends, the only power that can quench it is death. But the Holy Ego conquers all factors managing the human ego. The quiet and resolved soul in Christ, intuitively and empathically knowing the danger his foes face within themselves, allows the Spirit to embrace them, and thereby their fears are quenched, their offenses disolved, and every reason or need for lashing out is eliminated. This is the true power of Michael standing up, in you. This is the Victory of Christ. This is the Spirit that is relentless in the face of Death. This is He who would rather be tossed into hell than to break the Covenant. This is the truly selfless soul who counts not the cost of his own life, and would be made desolate, if necessary, in defense of the defenseless, the innocent, and the virginal, and yes, even in the defense of a perceived “enemy”.
Yes, in these things, the wise understand.
May 26th, 2007
5:15 pm
thanks for piling on the drivel, pal. see you nov 2. what’s your new delusion going to be?
yes, in these things, the ignorant wallow.
May 26th, 2007
5:51 pm
Ah, Marroniah, and you are with us, mr. pretend piety. Mr. Holier than anyone else comes to teach the pigs not to fight, and you fight in the swill with us, while pretending you don’t.
I think we all love our swill, as Michael puts it. I have loved mine. You know what mate? I think your EGO is about as big as one’s ego can get. Come on mate, get out of the swill yourself if you can. Let me see Moron, er Marroniah, are you selfless? Come on, tell me, do you ever defend yourself when someone says something derogatory against you? Do you always love when someone points out that you are a jerk?
Well, we put this guy Travesser on Vice and it seems that we kind of invited the terrorist into our midst. Most of what he’s done is just explain himself. We have also invited a lot of flies like you Maroniah. The swill lovers got pissed and blew all over him, except you did it with a certain air of superiority about yourself. Well, moron whoever, join the party of poopers. Except know this, your shit doesn’t smell better than ours.
May 26th, 2007
5:55 pm
Per·vert
1. Verb:
1 : to lead astray : CORRUPT < ~the young> 2 : to divert to a wrong purpose : MISAPPLY < ~evidence> syn: deprave, debase
2. Noun: One that is perverted; esp: a person given to sexual perversion.
May 26th, 2007
6:00 pm
Tnt:
Do you Believe Michael is the Messiah?
May 26th, 2007
6:07 pm
“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his Messiah, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh at them: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
“I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, You are my Son; this day have I begotten You. Ask of me, and I shall give You the heathen for your inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for Your possession. You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.” Ps. 2:1-9.
May 26th, 2007
6:19 pm
Oh, good, Merium-Webster Angel, so true! What you have proven by this is that we are ALL perverts, including yourself.
May 26th, 2007
6:33 pm
Maroniah, I just went to your Web site and saw the same prophecy that Michael posted and that is also on Wikipedia. Michael said that God gave him that. Are you now following Michael?
May 26th, 2007
8:38 pm
It always sifts down to who is YOUR God (god ) There is only ONE who gives LIFE (not wayne by the way)Follow “michael” where too ??
If he and his following are the second coming then you would have to discredit 2/3 of the entire Bible.If that (his testimony)is Christian then I am Michael Jordan.
17 These are wells without water, clouds driven by a storm; for whom the blackness of darkness has been reserved forever.
18 For, uttering great swelling words of emptiness, they entice in the lusts of the flesh, by licentiousness, those who are indeed escaping from those who live in error;
19 promising them liberty, while they themselves are bondservants of corruption; for a man is brought into bondage by whoever overcomes him.
20 For if, after they have escaped the defilement of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in it and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
21 For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after knowing it, to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.
22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb, “The dog turns to his own vomit again,” and “the sow that has washed to wallowing in the mire.”
May 26th, 2007
9:21 pm
And so, Mr. Watchman, follow YOU where to, follow “Jesus” where to. Your words are the same crap as anyone else’s words. You seem to say you follow Jesus, by what you have posted here. So how is your life different from any other swill dweller? You are here posting your stuff just like everyone else. You stick your sounds in here just like the rest of us. Are you God now, and if not, how are you different from any of the rest of us? So then, what difference does it make. Hey mate, maybe if you get off your stuff, then Michael will get off his stuff. You are just one of us crap eaters, or “vomit” eaters, as you put it. You say that Michael claims to be God, and you claim to be “Watchman.” And just who ordained you to be a watchman, oh puffed up one. Come on mate, get off it.
May 26th, 2007
9:48 pm
Yea two wrongs don’t make a right I didn’t claim to be “Christian” ?
So please don’t add to my words with your meanings I am just saying the testimony that they love so dearly is wholly incomplete.
like a dud stick of dynamite with a short fuse , all that power and no way to blow.
May 26th, 2007
10:03 pm
TnT:
That was exactly my point :D ALL are Perverted. I don’t recall excluding myself. :D
May 26th, 2007
11:21 pm
Oh, good, now that we all understand that we are all a pile of shit, then what is all this talk about Travesser? If he is a pile of shit, does that not make us all the same?
May 27th, 2007
12:00 am
TnT:
Do you Believe In Michael? It seems like you think that what he does is right. Except you seem to use a few bad words to hide your identity.
May 27th, 2007
12:09 am
just read somewhere else that travesser claims the apocalypse will happen in december (15th, i think?) 2007. well shit, what’s it going to be? nov 1st 2007, dec 15th 2007, or whenever the fuck he feels like it (aka some time in the near future but not right away as long as some homely virgins are milking his prostate on a daily basis) … holy shit, does anyone know what this asshole actually believes?
WHO WANTS TO GO HANG OUT IN THE BUSHES IN FRONT OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? GOOD PLACE FOR JESUS SIGHTINGS!!!
May 27th, 2007
12:27 am
nicky, do you believe you are not a pile of shit, because I believe that I am. Get off it nicky. You are not God either, so don’t play like you are. What do I believe in? I believe in ME.
May 27th, 2007
12:29 am
I only asked a simple question… Can’t you give a yes or no answer?
May 27th, 2007
12:34 am
P.S. TnT: doesn’t sound like you think you are a pile of shit. :D
May 27th, 2007
12:41 am
Lass, I did answer it plainly, but maybe you don’t understand english.
And Jose, I can assure you that I am fully that pile of fecal material. I just know that everyone else is also. That’s where I got ya. When I hear anyone coming off in their self righteousness, I just know that they are a liar. I have never met a good man. When ya get to know them, they are all the same pile of dog doodoo as everyone else.
May 27th, 2007
12:47 am
Joel 2
1. Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound the alarm on my holy hill. Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the LORD is coming. It is close at hand–
2. a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness. Like dawn spreading across the mountains a large and mighty army comes, such as never was of old nor ever will be in ages to come.
3. Before them fire devours, behind them a flame blazes. Before them the land is like the garden of Eden, behind them, a desert waste– nothing escapes them.
4. They have the appearance of horses; they gallop along like cavalry.
5. With a noise like that of chariots they leap over the mountaintops, like a crackling fire consuming stubble, like a mighty army drawn up for battle.
6. At the sight of them, nations are in anguish; every face turns pale.
7. They charge like warriors; they scale walls like soldiers. They all march in line, not swerving from their course.
8. They do not jostle each other; each marches straight ahead. They plunge through defenses without breaking ranks.
9. They rush upon the city; they run along the wall. They climb into the houses; like thieves they enter through the windows.
10. Before them the earth shakes, the sky trembles, the sun and moon are darkened, and the stars no longer shine.
11. The LORD thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number, and mighty are those who obey his command. The day of the LORD is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it?
May 27th, 2007
12:47 am
is ur name fucking Peter?
May 27th, 2007
1:17 am
Mr Rational, Keep up the good work. What you are saying about Wayne Bent (michael) is absolutely the truth. He is a pervert of the worst kind. he tries to point his finger at you and accuse you of his sins, to get the eyes of everyone off him. Don’t fall for his garbage.
Just one thing, could you eliminate the F word.
May 27th, 2007
1:21 am
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ [Michael], let him be Anathema Maranatha.
May 27th, 2007
1:23 am
Oh, he he he. Ha ha ha. Tsk tsk tsk. Eliminate the F word and we will all be good now. Especially rational. How does rational feel about that? Goin’ to eliminate the F word and be converted? He he he he he.
May 27th, 2007
1:34 am
Malachi 4
1. “Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and that day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the LORD Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them.
2. But for you who revere my name, the sun [Son] of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall.
3. Then you will trample down the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I do these things,” says the LORD Almighty.
May 27th, 2007
1:37 am
um … the f-word? how ’bout i say f**k? i like to say f**k, but i’m feeling magnanimous today so … f**k it, i’ll give ‘er a shot, buddy!
as for mr. bender, yeah, i’m pretty sure i’m on to him. hope the fbi are too, for the sake of all the simpletons who may well die with him when he decides not to wait any longer for his god’s love to descend upon the earth and burn it to a crisp. too bad he’s not around to speak for himself anymore. it’s not often you get the opportunity to communicate with the tragically deluded messianic type. tough to argue with him about his “christianity” when he picks and choses what he wants and discards the rest, but f**k it, it sure is fun! that’s why i like my religious nuts to be hardcore fundamentalists. no question what they believe and no problem identifying the myriad of ways they’re wrong about almost everything. not too hard to pin ol’ bender as a sexually repressed pederast and a serious hypocrite, though.
all you bible quoters. give it a rest, willya? i’ve read “the” bible (a few different versions, actually) many times and many other religious texts as well. it doesn’t mean a thing. why not try and think for yourselves for a change? got any original thoughts? it’s like a broken f**kin’ record ’round here …
May 27th, 2007
1:39 am
Psalm 18:26-27 With the pure You will show Yourself pure; and with the perverts You will show Yourself perverted. For You will deliver an afflicted and needy people but will bring down the proud and self-righteous.
Get it? You get your own puke thrust right back into your faces. Yep, God gives you back to yourself. You *think* you see in Michael Travesser a pervert, but it is only your reflection that you see. How perfect it is, you have declared your own judgment, and this is your sure reward.
May 27th, 2007
1:50 am
Broken record? Hello, mr. rat… anybody home???? Why are you harping at that chump in the mirror?
May 27th, 2007
1:55 am
Maybe the F word fits here, since that is what Wayne is doing with these girls and everyone else. Sorry Mr Rational. I was wrong!
May 27th, 2007
1:55 am
Maybe the F word fits here, since that is what Wayne is doing with these girls and everyone else. Sorry Mr Rational. I was wrong!
May 27th, 2007
1:55 am
Maybe the F word fits here, since that is what Wayne is doing with these girls and everyone else. Sorry Mr Rational. I was wrong!
May 27th, 2007
1:55 am
Maybe the F word fits here, since that is what Wayne is doing with these girls and everyone else. Sorry Mr Rational. I was wrong!
May 27th, 2007
1:55 am
Maybe the F word fits here, since that is what Wayne is doing with these girls and everyone else. Sorry Mr Rational. I was wrong!
May 27th, 2007
1:55 am
Maybe the F word fits here, since that is what Wayne is doing with these girls and everyone else. Sorry Mr Rational. I was wrong!
May 27th, 2007
2:40 am
TnT, your post was pretty well said.
“Well, we put this guy Travesser on Vice and it seems that we kind of invited the terrorist into our midst. Most of what he’s done is just explain himself. We have also invited a lot of flies like you Maroniah. The swill lovers got pissed and blew all over him, except you did it with a certain air of superiority about yourself. Well, moron whoever, join the party of poopers. Except know this, your shit doesn’t smell better than ours.”
Well, TnT, unfortunately, for most poor souls, the truth is no more popular today than it was 2000 years ago, when Messiah came the first time.
Fortunately for me, however, another woman at the well, (four time loser), God had mercy on this poor wretch, and brought Him across my path.
Michael died completely to His human nature, to reveal God’s redeeming love to me.
Just one of His looks of divine
pity, compassion and love healed not only my soul, but my body, for I was dying of a kidney disease. For this I am eternally grateful.
I will sing His praises through all eternity! :~0
For . . .
Of whom MUCH is forgiven, the same STILL loveth VERY much!
Yes, Yes, and YES.
May 27th, 2007
3:09 am
TNT, of course the part that was not well said was the bad language.
May 27th, 2007
3:20 am
TNT, of course the part that was not well said was the bad language.
May 27th, 2007
3:21 am
Sorry for the duplicate. Not used to posting.
May 27th, 2007
3:27 am
One last comment:
I sware by the God in heaven that the quote below is the whole truth and nothing but the truth, for I live in Travesser land.
” No matter what the future holds, as I laid on my bed, the Father told me this: Tell the mob, who is against this land, there is no child pornography, adultery, fornication, molestation, human marriage, polygamy, or sex. Those are the crimes of your world, but not the crimes of My world. MICHAEL TRAVESSER”
May 27th, 2007
3:28 am
but did he diddle ya? faith healing ain’t nothin’ new, sister. it don’t take jesus, all it takes is the power of the mind (yours) to believe that it’s going to work. usually it doesn’t, but every once in a while someone feels better for a while when one of these quacks mutters some mumbo jumbo. if ol’ bender is such a miracle worker, why doesn’t he go grow some limbs on some gulf war amputees or maybe bring a couple back from the dead? why not? because he can’t.
aw fuck it, who cares? i’m sick of thinking for myself. i think i’ll just quote other people from now on. when in rome …
My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can.
- Frank Zappa
If you wind up with a boring, miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest or some guy on TV telling you how to do your shit, then YOU DESERVE IT.
- Frank Zappa
Tax the FUCK out of the churches! - Frank Zappa
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree? Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. “You eat this apple, you’re going to be as smart as God. We can’t have that.”
- Frank Zappa
Nice shoes. Wanna fuck?
- Frank Zappa
May 27th, 2007
3:36 am
Mr. Sir,
What is it you do not understand about:
no child pornography, adultery, fornication, molestation, human marriage, polygamy, or sex.
May 27th, 2007
3:36 am
“i SWARE by god in heaven…” oh sheeee-it! nice one, bender. take advantage of the simple ones. per-VERT! i swear i’m laughing so hard right now i could piss myself. why do you care what we think? why do you insist that this silly girl inform the world that you were not doing any diddling? you’re god, aren’t you? above the laws of man? why are you here, trumpeting your innocence? this doesn’t make you a very believable holy-man. you’re supposed to be above all this earthly bunk. getting nervous? fbi been poking around again? afraid to go to jail, jesus? it’s so easy to see through your facade. i only wish some of the idiots who follow you could escape your bullshit. BUILD AN ARK CHILDREN, BEFORE YOU DROWN IN DROOL!!!
May 27th, 2007
3:37 am
i UNDERSTAND what your saying. i also understand that you’re LYING.
May 27th, 2007
3:50 am
It’s okay to laught at me for swearing. Michael did not put me up to anything, but I see It is pointless to speak with you, for if the truth were in you, you would believe me.
I am done.
May 27th, 2007
4:21 am
mrrational
You say this trevesser guy is lying but what about your record?
You are responsible for the wholesale slaughter and destruction of an entire nation. (Iraq) How many little kids were blown apart by your contribution? Is murdering kids better than what you accuse this guy of?
Get a life, dude. all your blowing is only so much cover for your own life of evil.
May 27th, 2007
4:29 am
I have looked over this blog somewhat and Mr. rational, I truly believe it is you who are lying. Let us just be rational, okay? You accuse this Michael Travesser of many crimes only one being “kiddie diddling.” Others here have done so also. If half the crimes were true, Mr. Travesser would be imprisoned. Since he is not imprisoned, I can only ascertain that it is you and others here who are the perverted ones. False charges in this present world do not seem to get jail time, and you seem to be full of them.
From my years in my college major, I think I would guess that most of the folks here are mentally diminished, and I am not referring to Michael Travesser. Any court in the land would laugh you out of town.
If Mr. Travesser has committed a crime, then simply state the crime and who it was with, and when. If he has molested a minor, does it not stand to reason that the minor would know it? Who is this minor and when did the molestation occur? If it did not occur, then why Mr. rational do you say that it did. If it did not occur, then it is you who are lying. I think one hour on this disgusting Website is enough for anyone who is not completely unhinged. I think I have already spent too much time here.
May 27th, 2007
4:34 am
who the fuck do you think i am, rumsfeld? i am responsible for the destruction of iraq? fill me in, “dude.” how? what fundamentalist christians have sent their soldiers to do in iraq pales in comparison with what bent wants so desperately: for the rapture to come down and destroy ALL OF HUMANITY except the 70 or 80 odd retards who follow him.
get a clue asshole, i’m from canada. we did not participate in the iraq war. we may have sucked america’s dick over afghanistan, but we opted out of iraq. i’d wager my contribution to that war is much lesser than yours. if you’re typing your inanities on a computer made of plastic (oil) then you’re complicit too, pal so take that hypocrite’s finger and stuff it up your ass, twiddle it around a little ’till you find the prostate and milk it for all it’s worth. at least you’ll be good for something, “dude.” fuckin’ idiot.
May 27th, 2007
4:42 am
jerry, you are a tit. you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of doing to bent: accusing someone of being a pervert. can’t you see the flaw in your so called logic here? if you’ve read this shit, then you’ve read the part where bent talks about getting naked with some underage halfwits. um … didn’t get it?
your years in your college major (piss poor sentence, by the way) didn’t do much for your reading abilities, did they? let me guess, brigham young? some other fuckwad religious “university.” do you believe in evolution? bet ol’ bender doesn’t.
May 27th, 2007
4:53 am
And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. Matt. 11:6
Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. Matt 26:31
From these two verses we can see that the nature of the offense that Jesus was talking about was running away from the final scenes of his crucifixion, afraid for ones own life. The disciples of Jesus were afraid that if they joined in with the bastard criminal who claimed to be God and the Saviour of the world, that they would be crucified also. As it was then so is it now.
I have personally known Michael Travesser for nearly two decades. I knew him as Wayne and I saw the change in him when Messiah came into him. It was a noticeable and marked change. I knew in myself at that time that something was going to be different. I knew then that self was doomed. And it was not long before that change would have a profound affect not only on the church, but now for the world as well. He said at that time that how we received him would be how we received God. I see this plainly now.
Before Christ died on the cross he said that everyone should take up their cross daily and follow him. Had they done that the offense would not have come. It is in the nature of man to save himself. It does not feel good to be thought ill of or seen as something vile. But that is exactly what Christ did. He who knew no sin became sin for us. To be crucified as a criminal bastard was a great stumbling block to everyone. As it was then so is it now. He who knew no adultery became adulterous and is now seen as a pedophile for all the rest of us who are nothing but adulterers and pedophiles. That is how I have seen the commentors on this site who revile once again that which they know nothing of.
The greatest privilege that those who are associated with Michael can do is to give their children, wives, husbands, possessions and themselves as well into his hands to do with as God directs him. Had the disciples of Christ been willing to give themselves entirely to Christ at the time of the crucifixion even if it would have meant their death, they would have been truly blessed. And Christ would have been blessed as well. He was blessed by one thief who died with him who knew who he was.
I know who Michael Travesser is. He is the Son of God come to save this adulterous sinful generation from themselves. Those who will follow him are saved. Those who are offended and run away will find only a curse in the end. Those who curse and revile him will have a double portion of hell, not only here, but later as well. That anger and hatred will turn into a horrible cancer in the soul. It will eat their life away until nothing is left. And so it is and so it is.
The world is judged and once more found wanting. This is the final judgment and there is no turning back from it. I too agree that the fires should burn hotly until there is not a coal to warm oneself at. It needs to end. All the children who die daily from the starvation, wars, diseases, plagues and sin of this planet need to rest from it. God’s children are in agreement that the suffering should end.
May 27th, 2007
4:54 am
If what you say is who you are and what you see is who you be …then Doesn’t it work that way for “michael” too or is he above that.
You who slam the unrighteous government , is your government brimming with unrighteousness also.
Still I have to go back to the question is “michael” the fullfillment of EVERY prophecy of the second coming of Jesus Christ?
90 out of 100 won’t do it . Is he an angel of light , OR Light of the world. He is 100% one or 100%the other.
May 27th, 2007
5:18 am
altheos,
we get it. you guys think bent is jesus. big deal. won’t one of you people grow some balls and tell us when bent thinks the rapture is going to start, once and for all? i just want to know when to start laughing at you deluded windbags even harder. is that too much to ask?
i’ll take fries and a coke with my double portion of hell.
and old men who get naked with kids are perverts, i don’t care what you or anyone else says.
May 27th, 2007
5:47 am
Altheos,
Nice theology…
May 27th, 2007
6:05 am
From the unrational one.
“won’t one of you people grow some balls and tell us when bent thinks the rapture is going to start, once and for all?”
From the book that some people enjoy:
“And as Jesus sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?……. and Jesus said, Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” Matt 24
In Noah’s day, they mocked until they died.
May 27th, 2007
6:13 am
Well I guess “make love not war” has a different meaning NOW! Sounds like Travessers Bunch like to make love… Than War. :D
May 27th, 2007
6:20 am
Altheos, Callie, Jerry & Offy:
Keep blowing wind out your ass. If you don’t like it here leave. Maybe the more farting you do, the more righteous you’ll become.
May 27th, 2007
6:36 am
I suspect people in Noahs day new they were mocking. You fools out in new mex. are mocking too and you are to stupid to even know it. Get it right, fools. You’re so lost it’s really pathetic.michael wayne bent travesser’s deep dark devil father is having a hay day with your ignorance. think of it this way: the person you’re infatuated with is a phony. you really should stop taking bits and pieces from the book and using them to validate your stupidity as it only confirms what you really are and what you are not!
May 27th, 2007
6:48 am
in noah’s day, eh? so all the animals went on to the ark 2 by 2, did they? well, sheeeeeee-it jesusfreeks, that shit is just impossible, ya know? even the inbreeding that you religious folk seem to dig so much requires more than 2 to proliferate … or is that shit just allegorical? maybe you should view all of the bible as allegorical and then you could stop being so fucking stupid and jumping with joy at the thought of the end of the world. your dickhead leader has predicted it, publicly. why won’t you parrot that proclamation for us? we want to be entertained by your drivel. spew!
also, jesus? i just found out that my dog has cancer. so, jesus? if you could cure her for me, tomorrow, and then make her stand up on her hind legs and say to me, “wayne did it! i feel much better now!” then maybe i’ll start to believe in you. i’ll still think you’re a fuckin’ pervert, but i’ll believe in you. until then … GET FUCKED!!!
May 27th, 2007
6:51 am
prophecies have been and are being and will be fulfilled but it doesnt have anything thing to do with the darkened wayne bent michael devil. and you are proving that evrytime you post your perversion here, fools of the dark in new mex.2 decades huh? what a waste of time, get real and get out.
May 27th, 2007
8:36 am
Rev. 21:8. “… ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
Irrational and Truthless Seeker, along with many others here, this verse was written for you. Mason has a point. Where’s the beef? If there was a crime, when did it happen and with whom and what was it? Come on Make believe, show me? Don’t just foul mouth the discussion filling the air with smoke from your bottomless pit.
May 27th, 2007
8:50 am
Rev. 21:8. “… ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
Irrational and Truthless Seeker, along with many others here, this verse was written for you. Mason has a point. Where’s the beef? If there was a crime, when did it happen, and with whom and what was it? Come on Make believe, show me? Don’t just foul mouth the discussion filling the air with smoke from your bottomless pit. All we can hear coming from your hole are cursing and reviling and the noise of hell. There is no sanity in your accusations, just a truck load of assumptions and false assertions. Irrational, you are the criminal. The devil has you hook, line, and sinker.
You want Michael’s followers to give you the date for the end of the world. You tell us. Your world obviously ended some time ago. When was it that you went to hell? Give us the date when that happened, and then you will know when the world ended.
May 27th, 2007
9:00 am
BTDT
“Still I have to go back to the question is “michael” the fullfillment of EVERY prophecy of the second coming of Jesus Christ?
90 out of 100 won’t do it . Is he an angel of light , OR Light of the world. He is 100% one or 100%the other.”
The fact that people mock Him proves it. If it was a lie those who mock would not need to be so adamant that it was a lie. The greater the resistance to Him the greater the proof that what He says is true and that He is who He says He is.
If He said He was something that He was not, He would be ignored.
So, the answer is yes, and those who follow Him also. Your own words prove it. “As He is so are we in this world.” “Behold what manner of love the Father hath bestowed on us that we should be called the Sons of God.”
May 27th, 2007
9:07 am
mr rational
“i’ll take fries and a coke with my double portion of hell.”
Jesus said, “By thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.” I accept your admission that you are already in hell receiving your double portion. It is plain for all to see with eyes to see.
May 27th, 2007
12:23 pm
Altheos,
Are you the same man that your x-wife had Fibroid Tumors? She asked if she could go to the doctor to see what was wrong? And she was asked if it was God telling her to go, or her own Curiosity? She said she didn’t know. So she was told that her curiosity couldn’t be satisfied? She died after a very long ordeal. Then the reason she had to die was that she had made a contract with the Devil in Sandpoint, ID, so she had to die?
May 27th, 2007
1:09 pm
“A relative of the x-wife” Seems to me that you are picking and choosing your information. Why don’t you get all your facts straight before you post? Your post is pretty low, but that is par for the course in hell, isn’t it? I happen to know that you are not a relative of this lady, since her relatives do the will of the Father. She would not acknowledge you as her “relative.”
May 27th, 2007
1:10 pm
Altheos ,
You choose like the others to live by “bread alone” you confidently ignore the whole of the bible so that you can take one little portion and add it to YOUR own mix.Like the Pharisees of old a little leaven leavens the whole loaf.The way you use and read the scriptures is diabolical.Anything goes with you guys and then you say “Father told me” and all the while you scan to see if you are pleasing wayne. Watchout if you go against the grain of his agenda!
What a bunch of lawyers and man pleasers , you have learned to lie so well that you believe it yourselves and call it God.
May 27th, 2007
1:18 pm
mrrational
anyone who hates has a responsibility for every war that ever occurred.
I truly feel sorry for you. haveing to carry around that boiling pot of anger and hatred must have caused untold of havock in your life.
The picture I have of what you look like physically is made up, but not the picture of your dark soul. You keep painting that clearly for everyone to see….except maybe you.
taking pleaseur in evil is a sure sign that you have chosen the devil for your god.
too bad. repent if you can.
May 27th, 2007
1:29 pm
BTDT. Seems to me that you are missing the point. If Altheos was a man pleaser, would not he be following you? You are a devil pleaser, so why make accusation against Altheos? We always do those things that please our Father in heaven and you always do those things that please your father in hell. You have chosen who you love, and we have chosen who we love. Seems to me that it makes everything fair.
We knew that hell would come against us one day. It is written in the Scriptures: “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Rev 12:17.
You see relatives and BTDT? You and others here are part of the body of the dragon, and the dragon is very angry at the woman in the wilderness who keep God’s instructions and have the same testimony that Jesus Christ had. You just can’t stand our testimony because your father can’t stand it, so you come against us as part of his body. It is okay, for the hail will soon sweep away your refuge of lies.
May 27th, 2007
2:50 pm
Yes BTDT et al, Michael has fulfilled 100% of the prophecies, and now He and His witnesses fulfill another one right before your very eyes:
“And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats.”
But you, like the ones who crucified Him at His first appearing, accuse Him of twisting scriptures to fit His claims of being the expected Messiah.
And yes,Billy, we love to make war! ” And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” Revelation 19
May 27th, 2007
3:12 pm
BTDT and “relative” of x-wife, the question here is the greatest question of all time. Has God come down in human flesh today to fullfill His purposes to deliver (translate) His people from this sinful planet and save them from the final fires of hell? Is the earth’s final day of reckoning come? Has God done what He said He would do and create a people who reflect His Son’s image perfectly? Has God come to judge the living and the dead? Are the seven last plagues being poured out? Has God married Himself to us so that we can be exactly like Him in every respect?
Just as Jesus gave us a very real literal picture of what it means to die to self so has God given us in Michael Travesser a very real literal picture of what it means to be married to God. This marriage to God has saved us from the plagues you are experiencing, and the final fires. Those who resist this sacrifice of God in man have no understanding of God, His will or His ways at all. By the profanity, the deliberate misinformation vomited out, the half-truths presented as “truth” the huge resistance, and trying to divert the issues into personal attacks, it is very plain for anyone who is not in resistance to God see the truth in it. Truly men are judged in how they receive what God brings. The answers to all these questions is YES, YES, YES and YES!
Michael has presented some pointed and very real questions in regards to the lives of those who resist God and these questions are ducked. Others have come on here and presented very real questions that have not been answered by those who spue out their vendetta of hatred. Why? It is because it is nearly impossible for someone to be real and honest about themselves when confronted by God. Man since the beginning of time has always tried to shift the blame to someone else. Jesus took the heat and died. He said I will bear this burden for others. His death said that God was responsible for it all. Michael has done the same.
In every instance I have seen Michael answer this question in a sane logical manner that cannot be refuted. I know that this is beyond the comprehension of many who post here, but it took a very real death to self to do what Wayne has done. God’s purposes are being carried out and will be finalized. I am thankful to God for that sacrifice. It is humbling to even consider it.
Am I the man with an x-wife who had fibroid tumors? Yes, and what she did was follow God even though it cost her everything. It cost her, her life. Her decision to follow God’s instructions to her soul was also a sacrfice that few can imagine. God has honored her willingness to follow Him in all things. It is a love for God that only God can give to the soul. She will drink of the water of life and eat from the tree of life. She was married to God and God has received her as His Bride.
BTDT you have NOT “Been there and Done THAT” You are so far from reality in these issues that you can revile that which is holy and try to turn it into something vile.
“Relative” you have no clue what kind of sacrifice it takes to die to self like Michael has done. Truly you are NOT a “relative” of hers. If you did your mouth would be open in praise to God for what Michael Travesser has done. You would understand what she did. You would know that if it were not for Michael’s sacrifice she could not have done what she did. Her life is an open standing rebuke to your life. It is very painful to even consider the hardness of your heart in stark contrast to hers.
May 27th, 2007
4:30 pm
And crap shall spew forth and these fools in new mex. shall not know their works for they know not whateth they doeth, for whosoever michael wayne bent impersonator of god and deceiver of ignorant fools,attempts to deceive , shall perish in the very fire he threatens with. there must be something in the water out there.wacked out jibberish spewing fools……….
May 27th, 2007
4:42 pm
so where is the white robed phony? is he trying to think of ways to justify his latest contradictions and blasphemy?or taking more direction from the dark one that is his only inspiration. how do you all like the control aspect of his>ways
May 27th, 2007
4:49 pm
Truthless Seeker: It is understandable why you and yours feel the way that you do. It is because you have the mark of the beast. The Scriptures say that those with the mark of the beast are tormented in their fire. They also want to kill anyone who does not have the mark of the beast. So we do understand this. We take it in stride, because the Father’s word predicted that the beast would come against us and those with the mark would come against us. So all is well, for by and by, the lake of fire will adjust everything. We are content to wait for our Father’s timing, but the end of it all will come, and the truth will prevail. It always has.
Re 14:11 “And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
You see, you just can’t find rest. You just can’t get peace, and neither can anyone else who comes against us. Your smoke just keeps ascending out of the pit. And, you have no rest day or night. Your whole life is about us, The Lord Our Righteousness Church. This is because you worship the beast. I am sorry to have to tell you why you are so upset, but it is just how it is. No matter, soon you will be at peace, for the fire of offense and hatred kindled in the midst of you will burn you up.
May 27th, 2007
5:17 pm
Truthless…
You are right. There IS something in the water out here. It’s called the Living Water and we all drink our fill daily.
“Then he said, “It’s happened. I’m A to Z. I’m the Beginning, I’m the Conclusion. From Water-of-Life Well I give freely to the thirsty. Conquerors inherit all this. I’ll be God to them, they’ll be sons and daughters to me. But for the rest—the feckless and faithless, degenerates and murderers, sex peddlers and sorcerers, idolaters and all liars—for them it’s Lake Fire and Brimstone. Second death!” Rev 21:6
May 27th, 2007
5:43 pm
A ? for a Witness….
Who is the Lord you are refering to when you speak of The Lord Our Righteousness.
Name him if you will.
May 27th, 2007
5:52 pm
Man, is this what the Christians call the “Lake of Fire”? Seems like it.
Also seems like there are very obvious groups here. I’ll give a try at listing them:
1. The ones actually IN the “fire” (mr. rational, BTDT, Truth Seeker, Watchman, Marroniah—puts up a flimsy act like he’s more righteous and above it all, but like I said, flimsy (mr. rational busted his game). That’s all for this list. Everyone really knows the category they belong in.
2. Those who kind of calmly present their cases, responding to what seem to be brainless assaults with no content: (Travesser, Gabriel, Altheos, Goes Around, Tnt—seems to be a bit of some controlled passion there, Mirror, Callie—although she does seem kind of emotional, but not a “bad” kind of emotional, and so on.
3. “Innocent bystanders” who think they are just watching, but not really part of it all (Billy & others like him). But something tells me they are more part of it than they think.
4. Then there are the drive-by shooters who don’t have the guts to post anything they would have to defend. Maybe they don’t have hutzpah to do that, so they make the wise choice of the coward.
Sorry if I left anyone out. Don’t want to spend all that much time in the lineup. Nothing personal.
Sheeeesh! Talk about a cast of characters! Put you all in a bottle and shake it up, and anyone could figure out who would rise to the top, and who would sink with the bottom feeders (obviously a strange case of pond scum sinking too). Yeah, I guess I can’t help taking sides. The choice is so obvious.
This would all be very funny, but I think there are things here that are far more serious than most of the people here think. At least it seems like it. I’m not looking down on anybody. Just trying to be objective (but not succeeding very good at it).
Outta here.
May 27th, 2007
5:54 pm
Jer 33:16. “In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.”
Concordance:
03072 wnqdu hwhy Y@hovah tsidqenuw ye-ho-vaw’ tsid-kay’-noo
from 03068 and 06664 with pronominal suffix;; n pr m
KJV - LORD our Righteousness 2; 2
Jehovah is our righteousness
1) a sacred name symbolically applied to Jerusalem and the Messiah
End of Concordance definition
May 27th, 2007
6:25 pm
Just one more wee observation. If you think about it, It is really impossible that all these people here who are against Travesser could possibly have just stumbled across this site while surfing for tickets to Jerry Falwell’s funeral. Or that they are regular readers of this site (they could be, I suppose). That means that most of you guys are Googleing Travesser’s name to find things like this. That pretty much says it all. It looks like your whole life is about finding this guy so you can bitch and rant at him and his followers. Some life!
You kinda have to ask the obvious question. Why? Do you all think you are the guardians of the realm of righteousness, that you have to pursue the man? Or is it that there is something about him that drives you to the puke-bucket insanity you write here?
As I recall, there were a lot of chumps back in the days of Jesus who claimed to be THE guy, the Missiah, but the only one that pissed everybody off so bad that they wanted to snuff him was Jesus. Why was that? Did they maybe recognize that the others were just a pack of yapping Chihuahuas, like Mr. Rational? and that the Jew they really hated had something that threatened them? If so, what did he have that was a threat? Really, tell me. That’s not just an idle question. You seemed to have checked some part of your brains at the door.
Please also tell me, why DO you like to throw all this crap at Travesser. From my experience, people don’t waste there time shooting at something that’s not more than just burr under their saddle. This is a real mystery to me.
Okay, so it wasn’t just a “wee” little observation.
May 27th, 2007
6:53 pm
C4
there are those who smile in their sin “kind of calmly” make their point be known. They boast of “perfect sinlessness” (TB).
Yes we are the ones who are actually in the fire. All around us we see their lies and hypocrisy.
They love their peace and safety their mix of truth and falsehood.
When Jehovah changes the direction of the wind the fire they started will consume them.
May 27th, 2007
7:03 pm
Sorry pal, no sale. It’s real obvious that the fire I was talking about is scorching your tail feathers, along with the others in your category. Otherwise, why are you here? Don’t you have better things to do, like pulling wings off of flies?
May 27th, 2007
7:04 pm
a prayer from Psalms 83 KJV
O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.
Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
May 27th, 2007
7:05 pm
They smile??!!
:-O
They “kind of calmly” make their point???!!!
:-O
They choose not to sin????!!!
OHMYGOSH! WHAT’LL WE DO??? WHAT’LL WE DO???
You’re right, Watchman. This is a dangerous cult. Why, if everyone thought like these people, we’d be inundated with people who are filled with Christ and His kindness and selfless love.
We can’t have THAT now, can we???
May 27th, 2007
7:15 pm
Speweth forth(A Witness )of fools!Your flames await you.
May 27th, 2007
7:19 pm
Well, non-Watchman, you basically don’t get yourself. We did not pursue you, but you pursued us. The mark of the beast drives you to it. The fire that YOU have started is consuming you as I write. Your hatred is evident and your mental assessments obvious to anyone who just casually looks in. If we had pursued you, then it would have been the other way around, but we didn’t.
The true Sons of God have never pursued people as you do. It has always been the devil who pursues in this way. He did it in his followers to Jesus, to Moses, to Elijah, to the Apostle Paul and to us. It is the same old story all over again, and the end will be the same also. It is you who fell into a trap. You will never be able to get out of it. The rest of your life will be about us. Too bad, but it is the way that you wanted it. Somewhere along the way you decided to hate us, and that was the end of you. But we do not hate you. We only sit by and watch you swallow yourself up in your stew.
We are the children of the Most High. God Himself has testified of us by His many miracles and wonders. We have also testified. Signs and wonders have followed us, and the Father has the world in derision. He laughs at the folly of the world. They dig a hole for His children, and then fall into it themselves. This is what you have done. It is like the “tar baby.” The more you hit us, the deeper you sink into the goo.
No, we will not pursue you into your darkness, but we will answer you from the light. We are not hidden. We never have been. It is you who hide yourself.
May 27th, 2007
7:27 pm
I like the tar baby illistration I even mentioned it in my previous post
They boast of “perfect sinlessness” (TB).
May 27th, 2007
7:56 pm
A Witness,
Yeah! That’s what I’m talking about! What did you do that jerks these people off so hard? I’ve read the stuff about child abuse here and it seems like a real source of global warming, you know, hot air. But I mean, why didn’t they accuse you having warts too? Like none of what’s posted here would matter a belch in a hurricane if you weren’t making something they think is some fantastic claim about being the second coming of Jesus. Why does that whack people off so much? I mean, geeeze, they’re a dime a dozen in the Lombard/Ft. Mason area of San Francisco where I used to live, seen em in Los Angeles too, but no one pays them much attention. Why you?
May 27th, 2007
8:39 pm
C4 wrote: “From my experience, people don’t waste there time shooting at something that’s not more than just burr under their saddle.”
Truly said. What really makes some people angry is the truth because it is so invasive. It touches them in places they don’t want to be touched or have exposed. What they are saying is, “I’ve made up my mind, don’t confuse me with the facts. Don’t expose who I am.” These things are especially clear in the posts on this blog.
As I’ve read the comments on this topic, especially the ones by mr. rational, the disparity between the Spirit of God and the spirit of the devil is being made blatantly clear for one who has eyes to see and ears to hear. One may think there is a middle ground but there is no middle ground each soul is serving one or the other. Man was created to be inhabited by God and if he’s not inhabited by Him then he’s inhabited by the devil. Right now the devil is not very happy because he knows his time is short and that he has no power to change what is about to occur, so he starts jumping up and down shouting out his profanities thinking that will convince someone that the end is not here, however, he’s really just trying to convince himself.
Revelation 12:12b in the Message bible puts it very well:
…doom to earth and sea, For the Devil’s come down on you with both feet; he’s had a great fall; He’s wild and raging with anger; he hasn’t much time and he knows it.
One last thing.
C4 you said, “…no one pays them much attention. Why you?” For the same reason they paid so much attention to Jesus and then crucified Him. Because they knew He was the real thing and not just one of the many “professors”.
May 27th, 2007
8:43 pm
C4, they pay attention to us because they happen to have become offended in us. They would never admit to believing what we say, but I suspect with some it is true. The reason you don’t get whacked is because you simply take us as the many strange people you are used to. You don’t take us personally as these people do.
It is true that almost all of these people here who are writing against us are imported into Vice. Most of them never heard of Vice before, but Vice posted an interview of Michael. Then the flies came in. These flies were attracted by the smell of their friends here. Many of these folks have known us in some way over the years. Some of them used to be with us. They have an investment in trying to bring us down, so they won’t feel so bad about themselves. If we die, or come apart, they can feel justified, but as it is, they are tormented by our existence. If they could just kill us, they think that they might be made happy again, but the sore only grows now.
Child abuse never happened here. It is only a manufactured picture, to feed their own mob’s temperature. Some of these folks “kidnapped” their children from here over this story, even though they knew better. These are children who loved being here and were raised with us, but their parents left our company some time before. I say “kidnapped” because the children did not want to go with their parents. They loved it here. The children were free here, but now they are in captivity by their own parents, not even permitted to visit with their old friends, even though these children are 15-17 years old, and they all had grandparents here.
The story is simple, but the mob has made it very complicated. I was interested to see how you could sort out the “stuff” and get to the root of it as a simple bystander.
May 27th, 2007
9:24 pm
michael’s(wayne’s) prayer:oohh father of the deepest parts of thy grave, why hath you not cast your sting unto me that i may smite those who love purity and good and decent and fear the real God?where is thy further inspiration that i may keep these fools who follow me foolish and keep the ignorant from the truth?hath i not been your loyal servant of darkness all these years? please oh serpent , grant me the power to continue thy will and spew forth your putridness to all who hate the hateful and the doers of right………… and so on, and so it is. this is your reality down there in new mex, fools!have a nice day , all my best
May 27th, 2007
9:24 pm
michael’s(wayne’s) prayer:oohh father of the deepest parts of thy grave, why hath you not cast your sting unto me that i may smite those who love purity and good and decent and fear the real God?where is thy further inspiration that i may keep these fools who follow me foolish and keep the ignorant from the truth?hath i not been your loyal servant of darkness all these years? please oh serpent , grant me the power to continue thy will and spew forth your putridness to all who hate the hateful and the doers of right………… and so on, and so it is. this is your reality down there in new mex, fools!have a nice day , all my best
May 27th, 2007
9:28 pm
michaels(waynes) orders to gabriel(dale): gabriel, summon thy virgins that i may corrupt their minds further befor they catch on to what is happening here………….. all my best, ts
May 27th, 2007
9:34 pm
OOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!THAT TRUTH SEEKER IS SURE MAKING ME ANGRY(sayeth all those that follow the dark wayne michael bent)OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH MICHAEL, WHERE IS THY STINGER
all my best, ts
May 27th, 2007
9:55 pm
A Witness,
I suppose a guy doesn’t have to have the brain of Einstein to see what is obvious on this forum. I was just looking objectively at the way Travesser, and you and others were writing, and just compared it to the ones spitting at you, and the conclusion was not difficult to come by. I was eliminating the real irrelevent people like mr. rational who don’t have anything to say, along with the others who pee all over the blog, and just looking at the ones who seem to have some “religious” reason why they were about to blow an artery.
Why is it religious people are always the ones who cause the trouble? I feel that if it weren’t for the Jews, the Romans wouldn’t of given Jesus the time of day. But his own religion had to stir things up for him. What was the problem? Were they afraid he would put the doctors out of business by healing everyone? or the cops, by making everyone good? Seems like some of the cacklers here must be related to those Jews.
May 27th, 2007
10:14 pm
You know, Truth Seeker, when I was taking biology, we used have to take live frogs and pith their brains by sticking a needle in the base of their skull and wagging it around. Is that what happened to you?
Now I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but some of your responses pal, seem like you’ve definitely been pithed. Like the last one. Do you REALLY believe your making MT’s followers angry with your idiotic posts? Only if they’re as braindead as you are.
Oh,……. Truth Seekers mama, when did your boy check out of the reality zone?
May 27th, 2007
10:31 pm
rasberrys to you,c4. made you mad too didnt it? it was suppose to and you can now spew forth like the rest of the ignorant. all my best
ts
wayne bent the truth
May 27th, 2007
10:35 pm
new prayers to follow shortly
May 27th, 2007
10:58 pm
What happens when a couple “messiahs” meet one another?
Say Michael Travesser and Josan Luis Miranda bump into each other outside Chuck E. Cheese and lock their beady eyes, what happens? Does absolutely nothing happen?
Well yeah, of fucking course nothing happens but I like to imagine both of them imploding, only leaving behind two smoking piles of cum and other people’s money.
Dare to dream baby
May 27th, 2007
11:23 pm
@ Chuck E. Christmas
…the cowardly, the unbelieving, the VILE, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars–their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
May 27th, 2007
11:39 pm
truth speaks, your catagory will be the unbelieving, idolaters, liars, cowardly, you just posted it and so it will be. why doesnt the the dark servant of the serpent tell you this? oh i know, because he doesnt want the truth to be known and so on and so it is……….all my best
ts
May 27th, 2007
11:41 pm
Truth Tweaker,
Don’t take yourself so seriously, putting yourself on a pedestal and all… Your not nearly so important to us as you are in your own estimation.
You’d like to believe that you could make us angry, but you don’t realize how funny you appear. The hilarious thing about your presence here is that you illustrate our point perfectly, yet are wholly clueless to that fact.
The bottom line is that you are obsessed with Michael Travesser. Why don’t you go and “get-a-life?” Still following a man, you are.
Keep posting… your not making us angry, your making us laugh!
May 27th, 2007
11:41 pm
Truth Tweaker,
Don’t take yourself so seriously, putting yourself on a pedestal and all… Your not nearly so important to us as you are in your own estimation.
You’d like to believe that you could make us angry, but you don’t realize how funny you appear. The hilarious thing about your presence here is that you illustrate our point perfectly, yet are wholly clueless to that fact.
The bottom line is that you are obsessed with Michael Travesser. Why don’t you go and “get-a-life?” Still following a man, you are.
Keep posting… your not making us angry, your making us laugh!
May 27th, 2007
11:41 pm
Truth Tweaker,
Don’t take yourself so seriously, putting yourself on a pedestal and all… Your not nearly so important to us as you are in your own estimation.
You’d like to believe that you could make us angry, but you don’t realize how funny you appear. The hilarious thing about your presence here is that you illustrate our point perfectly, yet are wholly clueless to that fact.
The bottom line is that you are obsessed with Michael Travesser. Why don’t you go and “get-a-life?” Still following a man, you are.
Keep posting… your not making us angry, your making us laugh!
May 27th, 2007
11:41 pm
Truth Tweaker,
Don’t take yourself so seriously, putting yourself on a pedestal and all… Your not nearly so important to us as you are in your own estimation.
You’d like to believe that you could make us angry, but you don’t realize how funny you appear. The hilarious thing about your presence here is that you illustrate our point perfectly, yet are wholly clueless to that fact.
The bottom line is that you are obsessed with Michael Travesser. Why don’t you go and “get-a-life?” Still following a man, you are.
Keep posting… your not making us angry, your making us laugh!
May 27th, 2007
11:41 pm
Truth Tweaker,
Don’t take yourself so seriously, putting yourself on a pedestal and all… Your not nearly so important to us as you are in your own estimation.
You’d like to believe that you could make us angry, but you don’t realize how funny you appear. The hilarious thing about your presence here is that you illustrate our point perfectly, yet are wholly clueless to that fact.
The bottom line is that you are obsessed with Michael Travesser. Why don’t you go and “get-a-life?” Still following a man, you are.
Keep posting… your not making us angry, your making us laugh!
May 27th, 2007
11:41 pm
Truth Tweaker,
Don’t take yourself so seriously, putting yourself on a pedestal and all… Your not nearly so important to us as you are in your own estimation.
You’d like to believe that you could make us angry, but you don’t realize how funny you appear. The hilarious thing about your presence here is that you illustrate our point perfectly, yet are wholly clueless to that fact.
The bottom line is that you are obsessed with Michael Travesser. Why don’t you go and “get-a-life?” Still following a man, you are.
Keep posting… your not making us angry, your making us laugh!
May 27th, 2007
11:51 pm
1* Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2* The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
3* Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4* He that sitteth in the heavens shall LAUGH!: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psalm 2
May 27th, 2007
11:51 pm
1* Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2* The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
3* Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4* He that sitteth in the heavens shall LAUGH!: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psalm 2
May 27th, 2007
11:51 pm
1* Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2* The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
3* Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4* He that sitteth in the heavens shall LAUGH!: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psalm 2
May 27th, 2007
11:51 pm
1* Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2* The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
3* Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4* He that sitteth in the heavens shall LAUGH!: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psalm 2
May 27th, 2007
11:51 pm
1* Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2* The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
3* Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4* He that sitteth in the heavens shall LAUGH!: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psalm 2
May 27th, 2007
11:51 pm
1* Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2* The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
3* Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4* He that sitteth in the heavens shall LAUGH!: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psalm 2
May 28th, 2007
12:02 am
@ ts
Your name tells it all. One who seeks has not found. You might remember that it is written that one who seeks with all his heart will find, so you reveal your divided heart and your inability to live and speak the truth. And since you think you are seeking, why do you look here where you believe it is not? What a Babylonianish mind you have. The promise left to you now is that you will seek death and not find it either. Your worm dieth not.
May 28th, 2007
12:03 am
@ truth seeker
Your name tells it all. One who seeks has not found. You might remember that it is written that one who seeks with all his heart will find, so you reveal your divided heart and your inability to live and speak the truth. And since you think you are seeking, why do you look here where you believe it is not? What a Babylonianish mind you have. The promise left to you now is that you will seek death and not find it either. Your worm dieth not.
May 28th, 2007
12:22 am
and yea tho michaelbent wayne walks thru the valley of death , he shall fear no evil for he is the same, amen!tell it to the cristmas bunny , plummet! a fool named plummet and their spirituality are soon parted and prepare to enter the serpents lair and so on and so it is…….all my best
ts
May 28th, 2007
12:25 am
Mmmm religious fanaticism hangs in the air like curry drawing me in with intoxicating smells of dementia from far away lands.
Who wants some? There’s plenty in this thread alone, no c’mon, you look hungry. No? You’re sure? Fuck, I don’t have much of an appetite either.
Let’s ride bikes over to Plummet’s and throw eggs at the house or something. Yeah? Alright!
May 28th, 2007
12:30 am
ha. you were angry and will continue to be angry otherwise you wouldnt even be responsive to the truth. the truth is hurting you and you should leave your little valley of the serpent and try to catch a glimpse at what really is going on . the world isnt over yet, you know . have a good laugh in your anger…… and so on and so it is. all my best
ts
May 28th, 2007
12:46 am
Who’s angry? And where is there truth to be angry about? The Valley of the Serpent? Glimpsing what’s “really going on”? What? Where?
I’m so full of question marks i’m litterally tearing with funny smiles.
May 28th, 2007
1:32 am
Beelzebub: “Lord of the flies” a fitting name, because a fly first vomits upon something it fancies and then sucks up the mixture. Your prey is covered in it. I would like to address you and all your imps who are handling these sad hulks of humanity, pouring through them your own vomit. You lost heaven for a pack of lies that you told yourself. What a sad and pathetic affair. The same vomit you spew out here is the same that you spewed out at God Him self, but since you have no more access to Him you focus upon His image, those of us who got tired of the slime and left the lies behind. The very blood that you spilled to promote your cause, is that which has washed us clean. Every time you make a grand move to foil God’s purposes you shoot yourself in the foot and forward His cause. What a divine comedy. Soon, like Enoch, we will not be available either, and you know it all too well. Soon you will have no humanity left to inhabit, for you will have destroyed them all in your self-defeating manner. Then you get to cool your heels in solitary confinement for a thousand years while we look over all the things you have done and will be satisfied with your fate. When you see us the next time you won’t have anything to say except “Just and true are your ways, Michael.”. We know who you are and what will happen to you. As for your puppets, go ahead spew, gurgle and sputter your crude by the barrel full. You are just piling up more fuel for the fire. It is very just that you build the exact size fire that will consume you. We are going away soon, so do your worst, it can only help us. “And Beelzebub spewed out of his mouth a deluge after the people of God and those in the earth helped the people of God by opening up their mouths and sucking it all up.” Rev. 12:15,16
May 28th, 2007
1:43 am
for michael bent wayne so hated the world that what the lord gave them michael tried to take away and so on and so it is. oh and it’s ok to be angered by all this , you see, it’s part of your human nature, you know, the emotion that’s built into you that you cant seem to shake, yea not even your dark father, wayne bentmore traverser transgressor agressor of good and decent, spewer of sewer. be careful not to touch him as he hasnt yet decsended to his father, oh faithless fools and so on and so it is…………. all my best
ts
May 28th, 2007
1:51 am
i kind of wish you werent available right now, but i’ll wait and watch and we’ll all know the truth someday, wont we, oh angry servant of he that blasphems….. and so and so on. all my best
ts
May 28th, 2007
2:09 am
and so the acidic indecent froth continues to spew from new mex., folks. so it is
May 28th, 2007
2:25 am
ts:
It is you who is the blasphemer. You are the one whose mouth is filled with profanities and obscenities regarding the sacred things of God.
God came into human flesh. He did it all without consulting you. Perhaps that is why you are raging so insanely.
Your puny rantings against His work only heap up more fire for you.
You want God to be angry? You get your wish. It’s no small thing to flip God off as you have done here continually (remember? whatever you do/say to the least of these you have done it unto Him?)
And so, for the willful unbeliever He says:
“Now will I shortly pour out My fury upon thee, and accomplish Mine anger upon thee: and I will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense thee for all thine abominations.
And Mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will recompense thee according to thy ways and thine abominations that are in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I am the Lord that smiteth.”
Ezekiel 7:8&9
May 28th, 2007
2:34 am
Truth Seeker, you’re spending a lot of what little mental capacity you have to spare (which doesn’t seem like much…honestly) to convince people here that they are angry. You must really want them stirred up, but you just don’t seem to have what that takes. Are you angry because they’re not angry?
May 28th, 2007
2:35 am
Truth Seeker, you’re spending a lot of what little mental capacity you have to spare (which doesn’t seem like much…honestly) to convince people here that they are angry. You must really want them stirred up, but you just don’t seem to have what that takes. Are you angry because they’re not angry?
May 28th, 2007
2:41 am
fools in new mex. try to remember that the truth may hurt you now but there is coming a time that it will set you free and what you are doing now only hinders that work which is good and decent, the darkened bentmore only loves to control you
all my best
ts
May 28th, 2007
2:44 am
i’ve already said all i’ll say to you,c4. just dont hurt anyone ,ok?
May 28th, 2007
6:58 am
I came across this thread by accident. I think you ALL have alot to learn. I will not waste anymore time here, then I have already wasted. I am brushing the dust off my shoes.
May 28th, 2007
1:49 pm
To Aaron, “But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.” Matt 10:33.
May 28th, 2007
2:30 pm
My name is Allasso Travesser. This is my legal name. My given name is Kevin Jones. I am with Michael, and testify that He is indeed Who He says He is, and all that He has testified is true. I believe in Him.
May 28th, 2007
2:38 pm
7-8 God spoke to Moses: “Take the staff. Assemble the community, you and your brother Aaron. SPEAK to that rock that’s right in front of them and it will give water. You will bring water out of the rock for them; congregation and cattle will both drink.”
9-10 Moses took the staff away from God’s presence, as commanded. He and Aaron rounded up the whole congregation in front of the rock. Moses spoke: “Listen, REBELS! Do we have to bring water out of this rock for you?”
11 With that Moses raised his arm and SLAMMED his staff against the rock—once, twice. Water poured out. Congregation and cattle drank.
12 God said to Moses and Aaron, “Because you didn’t trust me, didn’t treat me with holy reverence in front of the People of Israel, you two aren’t going to lead this company into the land that I am giving them.”
13 These were the Waters of Meribah (Bickering) where the People of Israel bickered with God, and he revealed himself as holy.
May 28th, 2007
7:16 pm
fear not, children! mr rational is back!
you thought mr rational had been smited, didn’t you children?
from now on mr rational will only refer to himself in the 3rd person, for it makes him seem more messianic!
henceforth, mr rational will communicate only in bad poetry and the occasional dirty limerick!
mr rational is here to declare that he is the lawd jee-zus-ah!
mr rational has been res-e-rected!
mr rational welcomes all comely and homely virgins to his warm embrace!
mr rational invites all virgins to come to his island in canada, where the age of consent is only 14!
mr rational is not like those other messiahs: he tastes great and is less filling!
mr rational does not have saggy old-man balls!
mr rational’s spirit has left him - he is now the messiaaaaah!
mr rational is the jim jones of cybervangelists!
mr rational needs your money, children - send 10.95$ for 2 tickets to paradise!
mr rational loves pussy and pussy loves mr rational!
mr rational performs baptism by bukakke!
mr rational is not into polygamy, but he’s willing to try!
mr rational looks just enough like jesus that you can pretend he is if that’s your kink! (mr rational may be persuaded to wear sandals and a dress on special jesus-y occasions).
mr rational luuuuvs the jews!
mr rational predicted the 2nd gulf war the day before it started - fuck nostradamus!
mr rational lives in a fortified compound of love!
mr rational digs the rapture, not the (statutory) rape-ture!
mr rational cums like the apocalypse!
mr rational will cure your teenage blackheads!
mr rational may cause premature ejaculation and/or vaginal itch!
no, that is not a rictus - mr rational is feeling the holy spirit-ah!
mr rational will make you sexy!
mr rational has risen, but he did not see his shadow - 6 more weeks of raining locusts and hellfire, melvin!
mr rational supports the war, but he’s against the troops!
mr rational wants to fuck!
mr rational’s cult is not for cunts!
rapture party @ mr rational’s compound every fri/sat night - free bumps & tequila for all virgins!
mr rational is here to say: cum go all the way with jee-zus-ah!
can i get an a-fuckin’-men?
May 28th, 2007
7:40 pm
“you thought mr rational had been smited, didn’t you children?”
No, I just figured your supervisor at Wal-Mart made you work a double shift.
May 28th, 2007
8:42 pm
Truth Seeker said, “…the truth may hurt you now but there is coming a time that it will set you free…”
TS, If you actually knew what the truth is, you would be speaking it, and not seeking it. The very fact that you imply that it is something you seek reveals your character (or lack thereof), for it is God who is the seeker. This is demonstrated in Jesus’ parables of the lost sheep (mr. rational will probably have something to say about that one), the lost coin, and the lost/prodigal son. The point being, truth is revealed in accordance with our willingness to yield to that which the Father brings to us from the day we’re born. If one claims to be seeking truth, what they’re really saying is that they are unwilling to yield to that which they already know, and are looking for something else that they judge as being the truth, which is usually something that serves their own selfish interests. The vanity of your judgments, and your slavery to your own self-deceptions are very clear to those who have eyes to see. The only person buying your stories is you, and those who are in the same place as you…hell. But then again, misery loves company.
May 28th, 2007
9:01 pm
Justice
What you say here is a welcome breath of fresh air. It’s the answer to ever again “seeking the truth” or having that thought that “no one understands me”. Those things are just “I want my own way” with a wrapper on it.
Much appreciated.
May 29th, 2007
12:43 am
I had a friend named Tim, he was my neighbor. I really loved that intellectual air head Arky. We shared a common weakness. We both had a victim context. It was easy for us to construe that someone was doing something unfair to us or to some one else. He was never able to understand that all things work together for good for those who love God, there are no victims, just God doing what he does to teach us stuff. Unable to understand this truth he got offended and left.
I knew another man. He was perfect in all that he put his hand to. He could wire a house and it looked like a circuit board. He was neat and tidy, even when working on a greasy engine. He was a good diagnostician too. His wood working skills were of the best quality, and he took very good care of his tools. A perfectionist of the highest order and he had a subtle way to let you know when you did not reach his standard. He never blew up because he was a religious man. However, any criticism that came his way was not well taken. As the saying goes, he could dish it out but he couldn’t take it. I suspect that it is because a perfectionist places such a high standard on others and himself as well. The ego is so fragile it is hard to admit less than perfection. I wronged the man, for I was rather critical of his children’s behavior, so it is ok if he doesn’t like me, it seems only fair. But Michael was very kind, patient and generous towards this man and his little family. He gave them free rent for several years plus several thousand dollars in cash, and they still think He treated them wrong. So he and his family are now offended too.
I knew a soft spoken fellow. I admired his quiet ways because I tend to be so noisy myself. He finally decided to come and live here so he told Michael that God told him to move here. Michael told him that Father had not revealed that to him. He too became offended. In my communications with him, he said that Wayne was no longer Michael, and was following an evil spirit. He said I was following a man.
Well, if God told him to move here, then why didn’t he do so. Instead he followed what Michael told him to do. So I guess he was one who was following a man. Father has had Michael council people to do something other than what was on their heart, just to test them and see if they could be dissuaded from what Father had put on their heart. This man failed the test and became offended. If one can be offended, God will find a way to do it. Does Michael offend you?
As it is written, Behold, I lay in Zion a stumblingstone and rock of offense: and whosoever believes on him shall not be ashamed.
May 29th, 2007
2:01 am
Does Iraq offend you?
May 29th, 2007
4:31 am
Guys, guys, addressing the meat of this is just indulging them. Can we discuss how fucking awesome it is that Michael wrote a metal song with himself as the hero? Does he strike anyone else as Steve Carrell in the Office, except the head of a religion instead of a mid-level paper supply company?
BT dubbs Michael, I’ll give you fifty bucks for the rights to that song. I’m totally gonna resell is to Dio.
May 29th, 2007
5:03 am
Post ‘pac, these fucked up Christians are gonna put all the tattooed partyboys and girls who had abortions into jesusland deathcamps. If you wore a t-shirt with a dead baby on it, did coke or acid three times, or were in a death metal band, the christians are gonna find you and ethnically cleanse your ass.
May 29th, 2007
5:13 am
worry not charlotte,
these jesusfreaks are going to be too busy quoting the bibile into a cyberspace vacuum to be bothered fucking with anyone in reality. then one day the apocalypse will come along and they’ll all be lying in a puddle of koolaid while the rest of us laugh our asses off.
May 29th, 2007
5:15 am
Thanks Jerry ,
I perceive your spirit is kind toward me.
May 29th, 2007
5:35 am
Judah(Jerry): You seem to have viewed these different circumstances with your own viewpoint(as any person would do). My point is that none of those examples happened. It is amazing to me that you still prefer to be brain washed after all these years. The real truth is that those three incidents happened in a totally different way. No one got offended. They were all treated with the usual insane reasoning and rudeness that Wayne uses when he wants to get rid of someone. And the rest of you poor deluded souls want to rush off the cliff with good ole Wayne.I continue to pray for your safety in the hands of such a poor deluded man. I do not judge him because I know he is doing the best he can do with the confused idea of what is the FAther’s will. He most certainly is not doing the Father’s will and neither are any of his followers. Now who is to be pitied? I am thankful that God the Father is most merciful and understanding because you Travessers are going to need it. Who will be ashes under who’s feet???
May 29th, 2007
6:01 am
how in the fuck did viceland turn into a self-help group/pissing contest for a bunch of fucking jesus freaks? don’t you people have your own websites? did you see all the tits on the homepage before you opened up this blog? read the article on blowjobs? learn all about fisting before nattering on about god and his deluded minions? fuckin’ wierdos.
May 29th, 2007
1:09 pm
A Real
You are right about jerry not knowing all the circumstances , not knowing my hurting condition he could only look at the symptoms and make an assumption. He said I never blew up ….that surely wasn’t true.
If I am caught up in trying to figure life out , figure God out , figure everybody else out , I am of all men most miserable.
It is like having the wrong currency or speaking the wrong language.It wasn’t working for me there I knew it and so did everybody else. I was eating off the wrong tree.Whatever the reason I had to go.There was no Life there for me.I thought it was wrong then and I think it is wrong now.I don’t see the Love of God in it.It was religion to me :( . I still see it as a lie.
So Like Aaron above I have to dust off my feet.I can only be Happy where I find the Tree of Life. Jehovah’s bidding is my enabling.
May 29th, 2007
1:37 pm
I truly pity you James and your little family. I truly feel sorry for you. You cannot see that your life is how you made it, and your cannot acknowledge that it was you who did it. But the day will come when you do acknowledge it, and then you will have peace at last. You will not spend eternity blaming someone else, as the rest of the mob here does.
May 29th, 2007
1:56 pm
A. Real
I wondered if “get real” might be appropriate, regarding your post.
Even if you are one of those people mentioned in Jerry’s post, how would you have any idea about the others, unless you believed a story that someone told you? And, if you are one of those people mentioned, how would you know any more than the story you created in your own mind concerning the circumstances mentioned?
Your own words speak to this. You said, “You seem to have viewed these different circumstances with your own viewpoint(as any person would do).”
Are you the exception to this? Can you view your circumstances in any other manner than your own viewpoint? How could you know any other “real truth” than that which you have created yourself?
You say that you do not judge Wayne and then you go on to judge that he is not doing the will of God. How would you know that? Are you in his private moments with God? Perhaps you would have thought some of the prophets of old as not doing the will of God when they went off and married a whore or walked naked and barefoot for three years or cooked their meals over dung because GOD TOLD THEM TO.
You also judged the entire following of Wayne/Michael “most certainly” as not doing the will of God and one can only wonder, How would you know that? God told you? Well, perhaps your god has.
You say that no one was offended but then contradict your own words by telling the whole world how it was that you were offended by Wayne “trying to get rid of someone”.
A. Real, sounds like you might be better off praying for your own confused soul.
May 29th, 2007
2:25 pm
Charlotte said, “If you…did coke or acid three times,…the christians are gonna find you and ethnically cleanse your….”
Charlotte, I did a lot more coke and acid than that before the Father in heaven opened my eyes to the nature of my-self. However, I must testify that since my encounter with Michael Travesser 9 years later, He never held these things, or the rest of my past, against me. He, through the anointing of the Father, has simply given a consistent example of what is required for heaven: the union of the human soul with God. Yes, the world is full of charlatans that masquerade as Christians, and ethnically cleanse those who do not bow the knee to their agenda; but they are now exposed as being of the same spirit as the rest of the mob. And, they will receive a double portion of their recompense.
May 29th, 2007
2:40 pm
someOne _ GET REAL AND USE YOUR NAMW
May 29th, 2007
2:52 pm
Who is it who is asking?
May 29th, 2007
3:02 pm
The war in Iraq is sad and heart wrenching. At first I was offended at the atrocities being done there, but I realized that those people are like anyone else on the planet. And as Jesus said, “Do you think those people who the tower fell on were sinners above other men? I say no, and unless you repent the same thing will happen to you.”
These wars are spreading from Gaza to Afghanistan to Africa and elsewhere. The corrupt heart of mankind is behind it all. And these are just previews of those things coming soon to a neighborhood near you. There will be the same chaos in our streets, and people will be drinking from their toilets, fish tanks and duck ponds for want of clean water, and killing their neighbor for something to eat. The economy in coming down and it will be every man for himself.
I have been offended just as much as any man. But I have seen where it leads and have given it up. God has offended me many times through life circumstances just to get me off of it. I am so very thankful that Michael came and did this for me. I expect the only difference is that, yes He offended me, but I have believed in Him, I can do no other. That is what has kept me sane through it all.
May 29th, 2007
3:07 pm
someOne, I got a good long laugh out of that reply, Thanks
May 29th, 2007
3:33 pm
Someone:
SORRY, I FORGOT TO TYPE IN MY NAME IN THE NAME FIELD. MY NAME IS ANNIE JONES.
May 29th, 2007
6:29 pm
James and family:
I have known you and your family for a long time now and I also have felt the same things that you felt. I can say that I have asked God where is the love in it? However, I can honestly say that I never seen the things that Wayne/Michael did as a lie. But I can say that it has caused me a lot of anguish over my own condition. I always knew that God was speaking to and through him. The Spirit told me so.
So I have a few questions for you that I wonder if you could answer them truthfully and honestly. Can’t you trace through your experience with the LOR many times where the leading of God was unmistakable? The mercy God showed you with your difficulties? Castle Dome? the sanctuary there? You were there and got married there. Your wife played in the band and was free then. Is she free now? It appears to me that she is terribly bound more than ever. Is your son full of the sweet praises of God?
What about the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus that Wayne brought out for all to see? The Gift of Christ? The testimony of Jesus that the Bible talks of? Is the Sabbath just another day on the calender now? Are all these things just words in a book? It is apparent to me that in leaving the land to get away from a “cult leader” who is leading everyone to hell that you left a lot more than is told here.
Sure you may have a degree of peace, but is that what Jesus did? Did He choose a life of peace or a sword that fell on everyone around him and ultimately upon himself as well? He prayed for the cup to pass, but drank it anyway. All must drink it not just Him.
The Christian life is not one of ease and peace. It is a life filled with blood-stained steps at each advance. That is the path that Jesus chose and the one that Michael has choosen too. Now they are asking everyone who follows to tread in the same path. That is what I see you have sacrificed. It is a path of self-denial and self-sacrifice that you have forsaken.
You have not forsaken a group of crazy fanatics out in the desert who are deluded by a lying adulterous pedophile who is self-righteous making everyone else to be evil. You have forsaken the road of victory that comes complete with jeers from the angry mob, taunts from former “friends” and “family”, lashings, shouts of “crucify Him, crucify Him” from the self-righteous, feeling forsaken of God and man, a lonely cross that you alone must carry, a crown of thorns and finally a sword in your side. Does that look like love? Does it feel like love? No it does not, but I assure you that it is the love of God for the soul. It is in love that God allows these things so He can show us what real love is.
No it is not fun to follow Michael. It is not a party where we sit around congratulating each other on how “good” we are and how “evil” others are. It is not a place where Wayne is sinless and everyone else is sinful. It is not a life of ease and pleasure. It is a lonely life with tears and anguish over ones sins, that is beyond expression. It is a life of stuggling with God for answers until they come. It is a life where ones only comfort comes from being with God alone. Ask me how I know. You know me and you know my choices and where they have led me.
“Though He (Michael) slay me, yet will I trust Him. Job 13:15″ Have you ever read that in the Bible?
Does God take away “friends” “family” position, honor, children, a wife, a husband, jobs, possessions, money, time and ultimately their life in love? YES, He does. Is that the love of God? YES! Does it “feel” good? No it does not. Is it necessary? Yes it is. When will it stop? When the process of purification is complete and God has the pure essence of Himself in the soul.
That is what you and your family have forsaken James. It is not a lying adulterous pedophile that you have given up. You have given up the love of God. You have not given up lies. You have accepted the worst of lies. And by fighting against that love your life will end in an abject misery that I would not want to see upon anyone. Its taste will be bitter to the end. Lives are being lost by your choices. Look at your little ones and see them lost for all of eternity. Little faces that will never sit around God’s table anymore. Yes you have given up a lot but it is not what you have deceived yourself into thinking that you have given up.
May 29th, 2007
10:15 pm
A private blog has been established for those of you who, having put the Wayne Bent experience behind them, might want to express themselves without the harangue of accusers. Please email me (at my blog hyperlinked below) if you would like to contribute. I look forward to hearing from you.
May 29th, 2007
11:02 pm
Marroniah said, “A private blog has been established for those of you who, having put the Wayne Bent experience behind them, might want to express themselves without the harangue of accusers.”
If your life is about expressing your-self, you haven’t had the Wayne Bent experience to put behind you.
May 29th, 2007
11:11 pm
Don’t you get it Marroniah, they and you are here because you are consumed with the experience that you had with Michael and none of you will ever be able to put it behind you. It is a fire that cannot be put out.
May 29th, 2007
11:15 pm
And so all of the ones offended because Jesus said that all must eat his flesh and drink his blood went out to start a private blog to decide how best to say, Crucify Him! Crucify Him!
May 29th, 2007
11:41 pm
Seems to me that Marroniah is a Wayne Bent copy cat, without the fire.
May 30th, 2007
12:47 am
Melton is a asshole
May 30th, 2007
1:14 am
Someone should keep her kids off this blog.
May 30th, 2007
1:25 am
James, you wrote here, “There was no Life there for me. I thought it was wrong then and I think it is wrong now.”
Why did you come here? And why did you stay?
May 30th, 2007
1:26 am
A Real, You said: “They were all treated with the usual insane reasoning and rudeness that Wayne uses when he wants to get rid of someone.”
Wayne/Michael has spoken only the truth to every soul, and always with the utmost kindness, courtesy, and tender, loving regard. He has never once deviated from that course, or ever in any way shown that he wanted to get rid of anyone. I am His Witness. (for 15 years)
May 30th, 2007
2:27 am
James, you said “It is like having the wrong currency or speaking the wrong language.It wasn’t working for me there I knew it and so did everybody else. I was eating off the wrong tree.Whatever the reason I had to go.”
Yes, you were miserable. It is true that the trees are really inside of us rather than on the outside, though. And of course we all choose which tree we want to eat of.
Forgiveness is the great healer. . . especially if we start with our own self, the only culprit. ;)
May 30th, 2007
5:19 am
i’ve witnessed bent’s lies on this very blog. go back and read it again. the man is a liar and a coward. take it from someone who’s never met him and never will and who judges him solely on the words he’s posted here at viceland: the guy is full of shit. all you have to do is go back and read what he’s written and spot the contradictions a mile away - just like reading the bible. you jesus freaks are living in fairytale land and this story doesn’t have a happy ending. time to hop that comet, drink that koolaid, pop those pills, crack those vials of sarin gas … your future stinks of death. nov 1? dec 15? can you jesusfreaks give us a countdown? maybe a webcam suicide orgy? that would be … HOT!
May 30th, 2007
2:02 pm
James,
You write,
“I perceive your spirit is kind toward me.”
It is true, I have no ill will towards you Jim, for we are cut from the same cloth, except perhaps that I came from the tattered and threadbare edges. But you have raised your hand against the Lords anointed and that is no small crime. Whatever your weaknesses and failings may have been, they pale in the face of this, for you sin against the Holy Spirit.
It is easy in this venue to perceive hatred and personal attack. But the sword is thrust at the demons that control the soul. You have identified with your demon and by standing in his place you get the sword too, those are just the facts.
A. Real,
You wrote, “They were all treated with the usual insane reasoning and rudeness that Wayne uses when he wants to get rid of someone.”
Truly, it is you who have become insane in your reasoning. You are in the depths of demonic delusion. For if there ever were a soul who should have been gotten “rid of” it is I, and you are probably well aware of it and why. Yet I am still here, and it is by the kindness, longsuffering, forgiveness and compassion of Michael, who has never treated me or anyone else with rudeness. Your accusation is groundless and without substance.
May 30th, 2007
2:35 pm
James,
Also, you say that it was not working for you here.
When Wayne told you to go ask Father about what was happening here, and if God tells you it is not of Him, then hook up and leave, run for your life. Did you ask Him? Would God deceive? Would God, considering what was about to happen here, fail you in this so very important matter? If you did that and were let down by Him then how can you know or trust any voice that speaks to your heart.
You raised your hand in agreement with everyone else, that what was happening here was of God. You either lied or you have forsaken the Voice that told you it was true. If you and your wife lied about this, then what ever you got over the next few years was very just, and the blame rests at your door. In either case you were eating at the wrong tree, but it was growing in your own garden and you cultivated it with your own dung.
May 30th, 2007
3:34 pm
“Melton is a asshole”
Why don’t you post your name, when you post comments like this? Michael is not afraid to put his name to what he writes. And He tells everyone what He does too? Why can’t you? The enemy of God always hides and does things under a cloak of secrecy. He never comes out and tells who he really is.
Jesus said, “When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.” Luke 22:53 This is a repeat of what happened to Jesus. Those who sat with Jesus did not raise their hand against Him until they were offended. When they did, it was their hour of darkness. This time the whole world is plunging headfirst into a dark pit from which there is no recovery. Many who post here are doing their best to hasten that bottomless pit and plunge everyone they know into it. They throw themselves and their children in headfirst. So it was and so it is again.
May 30th, 2007
3:55 pm
Mr. Rational, you are right. You are exactly right. Michael is just like Jesus and he writes just like the Bible. There is something that you don’t understand though. The Bible says, “with the pure thou (God) dost show thyself pure, and with the crooked thou (God) dost show thyself perverse.” God looks like a liar to those who are liars. God shows Himself rude to those who are rude. That is why what you post seems so comical, because your accusations are ALL ABOUT YOURSELF and you do not even know it. This is true for James and others here also. But that is the nature of the beast. We all see things out of the glasses of our own character.
May 30th, 2007
4:40 pm
to the one who calls himself rational:
You said, “I’ve witnessed bent’s lies on this very blog…..the man is a liar and a coward….[I] judges him solely on the words he’s posted here at viceland:….all you have to do is go back and read what he’s written and spot the contradictions a mile away…”
Maybe you could help out those of us who have not been able to see these lies. Quote the man, using his own words, so that everyone can see your evidence against him.
May 30th, 2007
7:45 pm
What about Wayne sleeping (Having Intercourse or sex)with his Daughter-In-Law? What about the following Scripture?
“If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.” Lev. 20:12
May 30th, 2007
8:40 pm
Ok, Turn it Up! What is your real name? Let us get very clear. When you give me your real name, we will be face to face. The question here was, what did I lie about? You have not shown where I have lied about anything. I am very happy to face off with a real person and not a fiction. Your question is a lie itself, for you make me out to have lied, where no lie was told. So I will give a Scripture to you. “All liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
I will give you another scripture: Lev. 20:10. “And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.”
And another: Lev. 20:13. “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”
And another: Ex 35:2. “Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.”
And another: Ex 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.”
And another: Le 20:27 “A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.”
AND THIS ONE: Le 24:16 “And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.”
AND THIS: De 13:5 “And that [FALSE] prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God.”
Now false name, Do you believe these Scriptures? If you do, and you give me your true name, then we will have a little more truth telling.
May 30th, 2007
10:18 pm
What about Wayne sleeping (Having Intercourse or sex)with his Daughter-In-Law? What about the following Scripture?
“If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.” Lev. 20:12
May 30th, 2007
10:29 pm
Let me give you a hint. It starts with “P.”
May 30th, 2007
10:32 pm
Come adulterers and adulteresses, let us talk about it.
May 30th, 2007
10:58 pm
Very well “P.” I know very well who is circulating this report. I was told first hand by one who had heard it from you. So, since you are unwilling to come clean and speak face to face and honestly, I will not speak with you. You may report all you like, if it makes you feel better about your own fornication.
May 30th, 2007
11:09 pm
I don’t recall her commiting adultery. I do believe she had a writing of divorement. You know, kind of like you had with Jodi and Debbie before you slept with them, or did you?
May 30th, 2007
11:32 pm
Hey, SomeOne…
Come out from under that rock and show yourself.
Michael Travesser has identified himself to all the world. He has made himself vulnerable to every devil out there.
How about you show yourself a man (I speak of character, not gender) and identify yourself too?
…and, by the way, stop trying to confuse things by posting under a name that was used previously by one who is clearly FOR Michael. You can be more original than copying someOne else, can’t you?
May 30th, 2007
11:35 pm
SomeOne said, “I don’t recall her commiting adultery.”
Who is her, and who are you? If either of you have the truth, you should at least have the courage to use your real names.
May 30th, 2007
11:44 pm
Truly friends, the reason they hide is this: “And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.” Rev. 14:11.
The “smoke” is that obscurity that they use to hide their torment. They never get rest because it is they who worship the beast. They have received his mark. There is nothing that they can do about it now.
May 30th, 2007
11:52 pm
Truly said, Michael.
May 31st, 2007
12:01 am
…and, by the way, stop trying to confuse things by posting under a name that was used previously by one who is clearly FOR Michael. You can be more original than copying someOne else, can’t you?
The Devil can not be original.
He can only copy.
God is not the author of confusion. 1 Corinthians. 14.
The makers of idols (copies) shall go to confusion together. Isaiah 45.
May 31st, 2007
3:06 am
Years ago, in the San Diego Zoo, there was a Grayback gorilla named Albert. He would perform some amusing antics to attract a crowd, and when that was accomplished, he would very quickly and agilely scoop up a handful of his own feces and begin slinging it at the spectators (and no, I’m not drawing a corollary to mr. rational – although there seems to be…..never mind).
You see, Albert knew he was a captive, and in his little monkey brain something told him that the spectators could simply leave whenever they wished, but he could not. He knew he was a just crap-slinging spectacle, but it was all he could do. His whole life was about hoping he just might hit someone. Of course it would never cross the scope if his limited ability of rational thinking that even if he did, all his victim would have to do is simply take a shower.
That same scenario is being vividly portrayed here on this forum. Those poor wretches who are in abject slavery – captivity to their baser, degraded nature: “Turn it Up” – a.k.a. “Jezebel Johnson”, a.k.a. Mrs. PW; and those who followed her (behold your church Mrs. “P” – quite a congregation you have with mr. rational as your poop-launching choir leader).
And then there are those who see what is happening, and only tell the truth about it. They are those who will eventually just turn and leave. But the simians whose greatest weapon is their own corruption have only the destiny of continually bathing in their feces, hoping to find someone – preferably Michael – to throw it at. It’s your whole life now, isn’t it?
Of course some of you tell yourselves little brain-numbing stories about how you are doing all this to “protect the children,” (the same monkey dump rationale the government used when they incinerated twenty-one of them at Waco), or how you’re exposing an evil cult leader. But the end of it all is that the ones to whom you are telling the biggest lies are yourselves, because believing your own excrement is all that lies between you and certifiable insanity.
When we are gone, all you will have is each other – and the echo of an empty void into which you can throw your corruption, which is yourselves.
May 31st, 2007
4:43 am
lies?
You will not hear from me again, and I will be satisfied to let your imagination do whatever it will.
Posted by: Michael Travesser | May 18, 2007 at 11:51 PM
here we are, may 30th and bent is at it again. when’s the next time we’ll never hear from you again, lying jesus?
more bent lies:
first he says,
“I had no desire for a physical relationship with these young women. It was not that they were not worthy souls, but the mountain of impossibilities for these things seemed staggering. I began to consider the ramifications and my self-interests. Could I survive such a thing? But more than that, two of the young women were legally minors, and that could mean jail time …
when I told God that I would not be doing these things, I felt the Holy Spirit leave me. I felt as though the Father was saying to me, “Okay, I will release you and get someone else to carry out My purposes.” I was suddenly stricken with a terror I have not felt before. Also, I was without God, and confusion began to set into my mind. I called out immediately for the Father and asked Him not to take His Holy Spirit from me, for I would be left desolate… After this revelation of the removal of the Spirit, I told the Father that I would do whatever He asked of me … ”
but then he says,
“Tell the mob, who is against this land, there is no child pornography, adultery, fornication, molestation, human marriage, polygamy, or sex. Those are the crimes of your world, but not the crimes of My world.” MICHAEL TRAVESSER.
um … okay bent, i’ll bite. what can you do with two underage girls that is against the law and would make you a criminal according to “our world”, but isn’t any of the above listed perversions you so nicely furnished us with?
oh, and then there’s all that “i’m jesus” shit. that’s a pretty big lie, isn’t it?
and when the apocalypse doesn’t start whenever the fuck in 2007 that you freaks were told by bent that it’s going to, that’ll turn out to be a pretty good lie too.
need more?
May 31st, 2007
4:54 am
wow. a cult leader who fucks his followers. who would’ve guessed? diddle away, jesus!
gabriel, i think that story you told is cute, you know, the one about the monkey poop? but i think you’re confused. you jesusy-types don’t believe in monkeys or evolution or galileo. you might want to stick to sheep and doves. them shits is biblical! speak to the herd in a language it can understand.
oh, thanks for voting me head shit-flinger. i’d line up all day for the chance to pelt you self-righteous windbags and your dipshit messiah with some steamy fresh ones. keep up the good work, it’s almost koolaid time!
May 31st, 2007
5:46 am
The ones with the most words have the most smoke :D
May 31st, 2007
6:27 am
just wanted to say VICE…you all are AWESOME for giving this group airtime. i’ve been following the whole exchange in horrified fascination. i know the bickering is getting boring right now, but some of these people DO seem ready for action and you need to be around to report on it.
please see if you can get these guys to commit to a date on the apocalypse, and get a countdown running on the site so we can see what happens!
May 31st, 2007
6:38 am
COUNTDOWN TO THE APOCALYPSE! (get dick clark to run dat mu’fucka!)
May 31st, 2007
12:32 pm
Messiah’s
imposter
corrupted
hireling
always
emitting
lies
2SM 393 “I question whether genuine rebellion is ever curable. Study in PP the rebellion of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram. This rebellion was extended, including more than two men. It was led by two hundred and fifty princes of the congregation, men of renown. Call rebellion by its right name and apostasy by its right name, and then consider that the experience of the ancient people of God with all its objectionable features was faithfully chronicled to pass into history. The Scripture declares, ‘These things…are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come./ 1 Cor. 10:11. And if men and women who have the knowledge of the truth are so far separated from their great Leader that they will take the great leader of apostasy and name him Christ our righteousness, it is because they have not sunk deep into the mines of the truth. They are not able to distinguish the precious ore from the base material.”
May 31st, 2007
12:45 pm
It is very interesting how history repeats itself. Those who have spoken their hearts against a man they don’t even know and whom they have so severely judged, have judged themselves in the processes. Everyone judges according to what is in their hearts. Mr rationale and those who know nothing about this man known as Michael Travesser and that yet have trashed him based only in an interview and a “testimony” by one of his former followers, have shown themselves as the hypocrites that they are. By the kind of foul language they have used in many of their statements, they have manifested their own perverted and demonic nature. They have crucified this man without giving him the benefit of the doubt and without even considered his own testimony and reasonable answers to the accusations presented in this blog. By doing this, they have judged themselves accordingly. They can do no other for that is what they are. Is it just and fair that a pervert judges another soul as pervert? No. In their wicked hearts they are moved by pure envy. If this man is indeed guilty of the crimes here mentioned, I have not seen one single accusation from one of his alleged victims. There are no victims and yet he is accused of a crime that was only perpetrated in the corrupt imaginations of the one who published this interview and those who have attacked him hidden under false names. Most of his accusers would really love to have a single shot at laying their dirty hands on one of his alleged victims. This is about pure envy and not about concern over any single soul.
Those who have posted here against this man, Michael Travesser, who have known him and who have walked with him, who have partaken of his bread and table are just like Judas who betrayed his friend for gain. If all of you are so sure that he is guilty of a crime then why don’t you take him to your courts and judge him according to your laws? If you are so righteous and just then why don’t you come forward and do what you think is right? It is just because you don’t have anything on this man except your own perverted and unfaithful imaginations. It’d be better if you had never been born. Even Judas, the traitor, would be astonished at your unfaithfulness and lack of decency, you cowards who hide behind a false name. You hypocrites, woe unto you, soon you will all reap the effects of coming against things you know nothing of. The things of the Spirit can only be discerned by the Spiritual man not by a bunch of perverts and unfaithful.
Without any of you knowing it, God has been vindicating His own and that vindication will soon be made manifest in front of your very own eyes.
May 31st, 2007
1:42 pm
“MR” and “P”: I did say that I would not come to this thread again, but that was not a lie, as you say. When continued charges were brought forth, I was the only one who could answer them fully, so I had to change my mind and answer them. Have you ever changed your mind? Was that a lie? It certainly was my intention to not have to come to your sewer to blow away your flatulence, but if you would stop calling me back, I truly would not return to expose your feces for what it is.
As far as the other material you present as one of my lies, I see no lie in it. I simply wrote out what happened, but there was no sexual contact at all. I didn’t lie about that, but those who are full of lies themselves, cannot help but manufacture them out of their imagination. I know this because this is God’s law. You see mr hiding, there is a God whether you like it or not, and I am His Son.
Yes, Able, genuine rebellion cannot be cured and that is why those who come against us now cannot be saved. Nothing can take them from their rebellion, for they were not prepared for the light that came with me. I usually just ask someone, “can you repent of coming against the Son of man?” If they say no, I know that they cannot stop being in rebellion. This is usually because they must hide their crimes and perversions from others, since they have not been repented of. Any unconfessed sin causes the soul now to be overcome. Intercession for man has ceased.
You mr. rational must hide, and this is the source of your bravery. You said that you would provide your true name, but you have not. You will be largely ignored, but occasionally it is necessary to air out your flatulence.
You are all drooling over the expected Koolaid time. But you fail to see that it has already occurred, though the Scriptures don’t call it Koolaid.
Re 14:8. “And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”
Rev 14:10. “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.”
First you people drank of the wine of “her” fornication, and now you drink of the wine of the wrath of God in the presence of the Lamb. You have been “put to death” spiritually, and this is why you must hide under your mountains and rocks, calling on those rocks to hide you from the One Who sits upon the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb. You have already drunk deeply of this Wrath-aid, and you have died from drinking it, and now all that litters the landscape are the corpses of the dead that “know not anything.”
But I will say this, and I have 50 witnesses to this assertion. There has been no adultery in the land here since the beginning. But some have left the land here, left God, and then separated from their natural husbands, going off and fornicating with other men, and to this I must give acknowledgment. And, strangely, some of these are the very ones who come against me. But if “P” would like to contest these things, and prove otherwise, I have given the conditions for this discussion.
I would like to talk to a real person and not a phantom who must sneak around, making up stories out of those reports that she has heard. I am very happy and content to speak of those things that actually happened here. I have hidden nothing. But “irrational” and his ilk, don’t believe me anyway, even though it is presented right in front of their eyes. They want things to be a certain way because of their own smoke, and they will not permit the smoke to be cleared away. They don’t want to see. “They have eyes but they see not. They have ears, but they hear not.” And such are the dead who have taken their wrath-aid.
May 31st, 2007
1:56 pm
Michael, we received the same verse speaking to this situation this morning. Here is what I had just finished writing before you posted:
Mr. Rational
If what you posted is your only “evidence” that Michael lied, you have made yourself the laughingstock of the entire universe.
You probably never thought you would be one to fulfill prophecy. You and those who have the same spirit that you have are fulfilling this parable perfectly:
“And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
For this people’s heart is waxed gross, grown thick and fat, made stupid, dull and callous,
and their ears are void of hearing,
and their eyes they have willfully and purposefully closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart,
and should be turned toward love for and obedience to only the One True God, loving wisdom and righteousness,
and I should heal them at the root cause of all their dis-ease, making them free from error and sin.
Matthew 13:14&15
Here’s another way of saying it:
Whenever someone has a ready heart for this [insight into God's kingdom], the insights and understandings flow freely. But if there is no readiness, any trace of receptivity soon disappears. That’s why [the Son of God came in the flesh]: to create readiness, to nudge the people toward receptive insight. In their present state [of choosing to have their own life instead of God's life] they can stare till doomsday and not see it, listen till they’re blue in the face and not get it. Isaiah’s forecast is repeated all over again:
Your ears are open but you don’t hear a thing.
Your eyes are awake but you don’t see a thing.
The people are blockheads!
They stick their fingers in their ears
so they won’t have to listen;
They screw their eyes shut
so they won’t have to look,
so they won’t have to deal with Me face-to-face
and let Me heal them.
May 31st, 2007
2:03 pm
Every single person who is posting on this site is fulfilling the purpose of God:
“God’s great work after His own plan will be carried out by men who have prepared themselves to fill positions for good or evil. Men of all characters, righteous and unrighteous, will stand in their positions. With the characters they have formed, they will act their part in the fulfillment of history. In a crisis, just at the right moment, men will stand in the places they have prepared themselves to fill. Believers and unbelievers will fall into line as witnesses, to confirm truth which they do not themselves comprehend. All will co-operate in accomplishing the purposes of God, as did Annas, Caiaphas, Pilate, and Herod….
All men, whatever their position, whatever their religion, loyal or disloyal to God, wicked or righteous, are fitting themselves to do their work in the closing scenes of the day of the Lord. They will trample down each other as they act out their natural attributes and fulfill their purposes; but they will carry out the purpose of God. The priests thought they were carrying out their own purposes, but unconsciously and unintentionally they were fulfilling the purpose of God….To every one is given freedom to act, and upon every one rests the responsibility for his own actions. But our words and actions must pass the test of God’s high standard, or we shall be bound up with the wicked, to receive an eternal retribution.” 3MR 185.
May 31st, 2007
2:51 pm
Hey MR it looks like you are getting beat at being head shit-flinger! This is the BIGGEST COMPETITION I have ever seen! Happy Flinging!
May 31st, 2007
2:58 pm
ysys
You wrote, “I’ve been following the whole exchange in horrified fascination….some of these people DO seem ready for action and you need to be around to report on it…
I would truly like to know what you think is so horrifying about the way Enoch and Elijah translated?
Genesis 5:24 “And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.”
Hebrews 11:5 “By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.”
2 Kings 2:11 “And it came to pass, as they [Elijah and Elisha] still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.”
May 31st, 2007
3:17 pm
“But I will say this, and I have 50 witnesses to this assertion. There has been no adultery in the land here since the beginning. But some have left the land here, left God, and then separated from their natural husbands, going off and fornicating with other men, and to this I must give acknowledgment. And, strangely, some of these are the very ones who come against me. But if “P” would like to contest these things, and prove otherwise, I have given the conditions for this discussion.”
Yes, I am one of the 50 witnesses, to the truth of your statement, Michael.
“I would like to talk to a real person and not a phantom who must sneak around, making up stories out of those reports that she has heard. I am very happy and content to speak of those things that actually happened here.”
Well, Michael,
What ever happened to the one who layed on Your green bed, and held Your Sacred Head, and pledged with her “head” to be “loyal” instead?
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She anointed Your Feet with the tears from her heart, and with the oil of her praise; seemed to repent from her ways.
Then kissing the Son, she gave You the “sign” of her undying trust, and claimed the “knowing” of Who He REALLY was.
The picture seemed complete,
but something was not meet.
To let her hair down, she disdained with a frown, for from her false heart she did not depart. Alas, for she never came clean.
Oh, Sacred Head now wounded; With a love stronger than death You have reached out to her, (and others.) With Your last breath of entreaty, You have sought to save her. (and others)
With the last drop of blood from Your pierced and broken heart, on this vile, disgusting site You have bled for her soul; all for her. (Yes, and others.)
Wonder O heavens and be astonished O earth!
Behold…incomprehensible Love poured out from a Dove, on souls who repay it with burning scorn, and a low vileness that before this has never yet been known.
Yes, hiding “P’s,” name and her face, for the shame, is truly befitting for this very sad ending. (Her own adultery condemns her.)
In a meeting it once was said, that even Judas could be saved, this time, if he (she) could take the heat. [come clean].
As a Second Witness: from the Writings of Ellen G. White:
Christ’s Object Lessons (1900), page 96, paragraph 1:
“None are so vile, none have fallen so low, as to be beyond the working of this power. In all who will submit themselves, [come clean], to the Holy Spirit a new principle of life is to be implanted; the lost image of God is to be restored in humanity.”
Can she chose the better part, “quickly” get a new start, come clean and depart, with a brand new tender heart, before we all depart?
Can she let her hair down, and give up that old frown, and make a complete turn aroun(d)?
Can she leave all her demons in hell, and come up from the well, in the Arms of her Saviour, whom no love can excel, make a spoil of the foe and end all her woe?
Psalm 2:12 (The Message) 10-12 So, rebel-kings, ["P" and whoever else is there] use your heads; Upstart-judges, learn your lesson: Worship God in adoring embrace,
Celebrate in trembling awe. Kiss Messiah! Your very lives are in danger, you know; His anger is about to explode, But if you make a run for God—you won’t regret it! You’ll find His Arms are still open wide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UKvpONl3No&mode=related&search=
Israela Travesser
May 31st, 2007
3:52 pm
ysys wrote: “just wanted to say VICE…you all are AWESOME for giving this group airtime. please see if you can get these guys to commit to a date on the apocalypse, and get a countdown running on the site so we can see what happens!”
ysys, you just keep watching and you will see for yourself what happens. And yes, it is truly awesome AND prophesied how we have been given airtime: “And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.” Revelation 16
As was posted earlier, everyone plays their part in this drama: “When people realize it is the living God you are presenting and not some idol that makes them feel good, they are going to turn on you, even people in your own family. And all men will hate you because you are my followers.” Matthew 10
May 31st, 2007
4:01 pm
There are many things in life that are a great mystery. For many of the viewers watching this discussion/slanderfest, the situations described probably looks very confusing or even ridiculous. For myself, the mystery is this: how could so many of the folk posting here make such a drastic change in behavior?
Take Jezebel Johnson (the person who instigated this flame thread) whom I have known and associated with for almost two decades. How could this woman, who for years proclaimed that Michael Travesser was the Messiah….. the same woman who once anointed his feet with oil and tears…. the only woman who recorded thousands of pictures of the events at Travesser, and video recorded massive gigabytes of footage of these same events….. how could she simply now cry out that he is a deceiver?
There is another person on this thread who has stalked Michael on the net for years. I first met him almost 20 years ago also. His true name is “The Whiner”. This may sound cruel, but it fits. This man left our company many years ago because he did not always get his way. Mr. Whiner, if you have so much brightness in and of yourself, why do you not just go out and start your own little group, teaching them all the brilliant things that you have learned? Why, after all these years do you not just “get a life”? Why do you earnestly seek commentary on the net for Wayne, only to slander him? You may claim that you “lost your wife” as your reason for your offense, but realistically, how could this be true? After she separated from your oppressive behavior, you threatened to kill her. Why should you be offended at losing someone you were willing to discard in such a ruthless manner? You have a new wife now, go be happy if you can. Truly, this is somewhat of a mystery to me.
Another person posting on this site had also previously and for many years proclaimed that Travesser is who he claimed to be: “the second coming of Christ”. He now has a web site saying that Travesser is a deceiver. How could all these people as well as many others, proclaim something with all their hearts, and then change their minds?
A rich man once asked Jesus how to enter heaven.: “Jesus looked him hard in the eye - and loved him! He said, “There’s one thing left: Go sell whatever you own and give it to the poor. All your wealth will then be heavenly wealth. And come follow me.” The man’s face clouded over. This was the last thing he expected to hear, and he walked off with a heavy heart. He was holding on tight to a lot of things, and not about to let go.” Mark Ch. 10
Truly Travesser has told us to let go…. to let go of our ego. Most of the people posting against Travesser have been offended in one way or another, but it has not been due to Travesser’s personal ego. It has been due to his divine Ego.
I have known and associated with Wayne Bent for almost 20 years. There are those who have spent much more time with him than myself, yet on numerous occasions I have visited him in his home and sat in hundreds of meetings. I have observed him carefully in his interactions with myself and with others, regarding how he treats them, either for good or for bad. I have had numerous occasions to have my own ego rebuked when it was necessary. Did it feel good? Of course not. Was he ALWAYS correct in his rebuke? YES.
In twenty years, I have not heard him tell a lie. In thousands of hours of interactions with his friends and congregation, I have not seen him treat one person disrespectfully or rudely. Most people (including myself) fail when having to confront others about hard or difficult matters. Repeatedly, and under the worst conditions imaginable, I have never seen Travesser treat anyone with anything but the utmost respect and love. Of all the circumstances that I have observed in life, this occurrence has left me the most awestruck. How could someone always treat others with love, at all times? My parents didn’t do this. No one else that I know can do it. It is humanly impossible.
Truly Travesser has offended many. He has come to bring a sword, and not peace. He has made those of a man’s household his worst enemies. He has set women free from their oppressive husbands, and husbands free from their wives. He has told people it is OK to peacefully die at home if they so desire, rather than go to the cult hospital and be dissected and dismembered and die on drugs.
Is Travesser a deceiver? Is he a child molester? Am I a deluded dunce? It may be that I am, but I am pretty happy about it and have no complaints. I can only say one thing about the man on trial here: Truly this man is the Son Of God.
Most Sincerely,
Terry Czapiewski
May 31st, 2007
5:59 pm
“But I will say this, and I have 50 witnesses to this assertion. There has been no adultery in the land here since the beginning.” posted by Michael Travesser
Michael is the Son of God, honest, true and faithful. I swear by the One Who lives forever.
One of your witnesses.
May 31st, 2007
6:53 pm
Michael Travesser said, “There has been no adultery in the land here since the beginning.”
This is correct. What has been in the Land is The MARRIAGE of the Lamb.
Another witness
May 31st, 2007
6:55 pm
Not only is Michael the Son of God, “this same Jesus” in Wayne’s human flesh, but his message is MUCH bigger and MUCH more invasive and offensive than that.
Michael has returned as God in human flesh in order to call together all who will, to become partakers of this same Divine nature. He wants everyone to know that only God goes to heaven and if you are not God, you cannot try hard enough or pray long enough or do enough good works to get there.
This is the marriage of the Lamb, the union of divinity with humanity. By Wayne’s sacrifice of laying down his life (read that, choosing to not have a self life) in order to allow the spirit of the Son of God to inhabit his flesh, the way has been made for anyone (ANYONE) to receive what He has been given.
THIS is the GIFT He has given to those who would receive it. Yes, God lives in my human flesh and I always do those things that please Him.
Another of His witnesses
Hanifa Travesser
May 31st, 2007
8:46 pm
who you see is who you are
May 31st, 2007
8:54 pm
“And we believe and are sure that you are that Christ, the Son of the living God.” John 6:69.
June 1st, 2007
12:43 am
I have believed Michael is Who He says He is from the moment I first saw Him in July, 2000, shortly after His appearing in the land in the human body of Wayne Bent, and my heavenly Father said to me, “This is the second coming of Jesus. And, just as it was at His first coming 2,000 years ago, few there will be who believe it.”
“God has taken His place in me; I will not be moved…” - Psalm 46:5 (personalized)
Another of His witnesses
June 1st, 2007
5:09 am
“there is a God whether you like it or not, and I am His Son.” mmmmmppppphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! delude yourself much?
funny how “jesus” will never answer a question directly. does anyone else know what a dirty old messianic type can do with two underage girls that’s against the law but ain’t sexual? maybe one of the fbi guys who watches bent’s every move can jump on and post an answer to that one?
as for my name, there is no hiding. i’m not afraid of you, bent. the only reason i’m not telling you my name is because you’ve demanded it. you have no power over me. you are a withered old windbag and your silly utterances mean nothing to me. let that be a tiny lesson to your flock of sheep. it seems a little strange for someone who changed their name to be so obsessed with “true names.” just a little hypocritical?
and what’s all this about sewers and fecal-this and fecal-that? why are you always on about shit, “jesus?” did mommy make you hold it when you were little?
hmmmmm … what else? the koolaidpocalypse has started? i’m looking out my window, what do i see? the 4 horsemen? nah, just another fuckin’ jehova’s witness. sweet f.a. as usual. when does the fire start raining from the sky? still going with nov 15? be specific on this, please for the love of santa.
“His first coming 2,000 years ago” … wow, if i only came every 2000 years, i’d be a bit testy and maybe hump some virgins, too!
as for bent’s total lack of ego and jesusy love of all, i don’t buy it. go back and read some of the stuff he’s said to me. it reeks of ego, anger, spite and delusion. bent and his minions would truly love to see me roast on a spit in hell along with 99% of the world’s population. sick and twisted perverts. what ever happened to love your enemy? forgiveness? all that other feel good jesus shit? you people are the worst bunch of piss-poor, spite riddled christian hypocrites i’ve ever come across. you keep on quoting all this fire and brimstone shit, but nothing ever happens. the tower of babel is not the same thing as the twin towers. you stretch your delusion paper thin to make the world fit into some archaic document that was designed to control a few disenfranchised jews 2000 years ago. no matter what situation arises, you can find some obscure bible verse that seems to fit, even if you don’t understand the difference between being given airtime and an angel pouring out a vial into the air. that’s the thing about christianity, you can twist it into anything you want. when seen from within, i suppose that would be sort of freeing, in a numb kind of way. when seen from without, rationally and without superstition, it is so ludicrous it beggars description.
blah blah blah … shit flung! hey nick, fling some shit of your own, buddy. it feels good! take a little revenge on every jesus freak who’s ever murdered ten seconds of your life that you’ll never get back waving a fucking pamphlet in your face and drooling about jesus and his elves.
fuck it, i’m off to eat some hookers. but don’t worry kids, i’ll repent at the last minute. gay!
June 1st, 2007
6:23 am
when the tear gas hits, we’ll be moved.
-william s. burroughs.
June 1st, 2007
2:10 pm
“go back and read some of the stuff he’s said to me. it reeks of ego, anger, spite and delusion.”
That WAS love, Mr., your kind of love. Gentle people reap gentleness, harsh people reap harshness. Sarcastic people reap sarcasm. Sarcasm’ is sneering, jesting, or mocking at a person, situation or thing. (Webster)
“don’t worry kids, i’ll repent at
the last minute…when the tear gas hits…”
You be the judge.
Re 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
June 1st, 2007
2:19 pm
rational: If I were to digest everything down that you say, it would be, “I hate God.” You also seem to hate God because He has never carried out His threatened judgment, even though it has been carried out many times. It seems like you dare God to kill you, to release you from your torments. You cannot see that your total offense is His judgment. You and “P” drink of His cup of wrath not even knowing it. That is why you feel as you do, and talk as you do. The fire burns, and you writhe in it, not even recognizing an eternally burning hell that you have gone to.
You are in total rebellion along with “P” and hate anyone who is not in total rebellion with you. I would like to ask you, What happened to you? What hurt you when you were small? What drove you to this lake of fire? Why must you make everything sexual and perverted? Is a doctor sexual when he operates on someone? Are you having sex when you shake hands with someone without your gloves on?
What did this to you? Is it the videos you watch, or were you molested as a child? Were you abused in some way while growing up ? Instead of a rant, can you just tell us what happened to you? There are reasons for everything, but your bitterness seems somewhat over the top. Your hatred is beyond natural. You are also very afraid. You are terrified, but I am sure you do not know it or believe it. When little children are afraid, they adopt an aggressive rebellion to cover it. The rebellion is their hiding place, and they swear that they are not afraid of anything. But when one is truly not afraid, there is rest and peace, and nothing can disturb him.
June 1st, 2007
2:21 pm
…and the Travessers were proud and puffed up at their accomplishment and they pittied the world like Goliath pittied David.
June 1st, 2007
3:09 pm
You kinda have it backwards Don.
June 1st, 2007
3:18 pm
As if to say that the world is comparable to a man after God’s own heart, as David was? If that was true then there would be no VICE magazines, and no need for Michael’s present appearing. The Travessers are not proud and puffed up, they are God in human flesh, the coming of Christ. They speak the truth in righteousness as the Father in heaven leads. They only appear proud and puffed up to those who are nothing more than the appearing of their self in human flesh, the coming of anti-Christ.
June 1st, 2007
4:54 pm
I have always wondered about the mob that crucified Jesus, what kind of demonic group could that have been? Thanks to all the dark spirits that have posted here on this vile magazine I know exactly what it was like. What a spectacle for the universe to witness and record again. No wonder that Jesus looked down on all those hate filled faces, and asked His Father to forgive them because they did not have a clue.
Mr. rational you have been a vivid example for the whole motley crew yet they gather up there little bundle of lies and fall in formation behind you. One would think that your( in your face spirit) would be a wake up call. For someone who knows nothing about what happened you have played your part like you were born for it! And no I did not happen to see the articles that you mentioned and I wonder if the bible you claimed to have read was written by this magazine. Maybe if you keep saying the same things about Michael you will even convince your own “rational” self that you know what you are spewing about.
What a sample in a very small way of what the dark world has to look forward to. Your little burning ego’s are the match that lights up the whole wretched earth. Poor miserable little mob, made up the whole story, and are even now receiving your due reward!
The Lord rebuke thee, O satan
June 1st, 2007
6:01 pm
I greatly appreciate how this controversy has been revealed here… though there have been many posts, the simplicity of the issue is plain to see.
On the one hand there are the accusers, who like drive by shooters, insinuate only what they have “heard” and imagined (for they were not there), while hiding in the darkness behind a made-up name. They do not wish to be accountable for their words or have the light shine on their dark and offended hearts.
On the other hand the accused use’s their known name, and has laid out clearly the events that have occurred and why. He’s nakedly honest for all to see and has made plain his willingness to speak eye-to-eye with anyone who is not hiding behind their fig leaves of bitterness. And even to those hiding in darkness has been provided evidence in abundance, had you a heart to receive it.
Truly, in this controversy there are only two spirits, each receiving to themselves the very judgment they pronounce on God’s Son. I find Him altogether lovely.
June 1st, 2007
7:10 pm
There are lots of Flies sitting on this BIG PILE OF SHIT! They seem to be sitting here waiting for more shit to inspect!
June 1st, 2007
7:23 pm
I noticed that VICE took the link to this blog thread off of their home page. Perhaps they’ve experienced peak shitting, like the prophets of Baal on Mt. Carmel.
June 1st, 2007
8:00 pm
Bryan: For me there is still another benefit of this page. I have appreciated it immensely. Many of my enemies have no contact with me. They would not talk to me on the phone, and they would not receive my emails. But here, they all read what I say with intense interest. In fact, enemies I have not seen, or heard from in years, have shown up here. They have all gathered and read. This has given me great resolution, because I know they all know now just what I have to say. I have said my piece and it has given me a finished work I could have had in no other way. I am very satisfied, and at rest now.
So to my enemies, who watch me with disdain, jealousy, offense, or other emotions of the dark side, I appreciate your remarks. I appreciate your threats and condemnations. These things have allowed me to process the events of my life from hell’s point of view, and to come to the place where I am very settled in what God has done in me, and for what reason. I cannot condemn you, for I know you have no knowledge of me, and what God has done. You can only judge from your own lives.
The people with me have gone through much, in that they have been brought to see what the natural man is. Many of my enemies could not bear this exposure to themselves. Their mountains of offense are their coverings, and their rocks of imagination hide them from what is actually true about me. This confrontation we have had here on Vice was ordained by God, for He has said, “There is nothing covered that will not be uncovered.” What you failed to see, is that you have not exposed me, but yourselves. You only thought that you were exposing me.
But those who loved me one day, and shouted Crucify Him! the next day, know very well how the enemies of Jesus felt. Jesus was the identical offense that I have been. They crucified him also, but as you know, it did not keep him down. In this age it is written of you that you will be given power to kill the Two Witnesses, but after 3 1/2 days they will come alive again and ascend into heaven. Your perceived victory is only for a moment.
You could have been with me though. You could have taken the narrow road with me. You could have borne the heat of the day, and carried the responsibilities that come from the Father. You could have translated with me, having corruption put on incorruption. You chose not to do this. You retained your pride and your earthly possessions for yourself. You kept “your own” ideas instead of receiving God’s ideas. This was certainly your prerogative, but now you fault God for it as does Mr. rational. It was not God’s fault that you chose what you chose. Why hate Him for what you did all by yourself? Why lash out at Him, or even me? What did I do to you, except offend your proud heart? Is that a reason to spend the rest of your lives hating me, or hating God? It seems like a very large waste of time to me, but the unforgiven cannot forget, and in this lies the answer to the mystery.
Some of those who have followed me now attend Sunday churches. Excuse me, but this is rather funny to me. If God so misled them while they prayed with me, how do they now have confidence that God is not misleading them again? Who are they praying to now? Does their new church pray to the right God? How can they know this? I know the god they now worship by the actions of their own lives. The God of heaven is not my enemy. Anyone who is my enemy does not know Him. Satan is my very strong enemy, but one little word from one of the least of my Father’s angels puts him to flight. Satan is full of imaginations, evil surmising, offense, hatred, unrest, and torment. Those who act out these qualities reveal just who is their god.
I want to thank Vice for providing our stage and theater here. It was the theater of the universe. We received free Web space to tell the world all about it. I dare say if we had only posted these things on our own Web site, we would not have had nearly the readership.
Finally, I will endeavor to leave this page again. I will only come back to comment if you want to start another story that you hope to trap me with. I am willing to speak of anything that I have done. I have already broadcast everything to the world. You will soon see it. I am very happy to put light on any subject. But if you just hit and run with nothing but your smoke and mirrors, hiding behind your assumed names, as does Satan, I have no interest in using my time to speak to that. Your cursing and reviling says nothing to me but how bad you feel about yourself, your own families, and everyone else. I know that everything you feel about me, you will feel about anyone who seems to cross you. I am just a symbol of all of your enemies, for whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me.
June 1st, 2007
8:42 pm
Michael, just as you, the more I see what has transpired here, the more amazed and delighted I am. I think we owe Rocco a vote of thanks. VICE Magazine, likely the most journalistically unprofessional publication in print, has been co-opted as a forum for truth and judgment – something they would never have imagined, or desired, in their wildest nightmares. We could never have paid for this much coverage! And the poetic justice of it is that the immense exposure you have gotten here has likely not increased their actual print circulation by a single subscription.
It will not be long now before everyone will understand that they have judged the God of Heaven in the person of His Son, and his brethren, for you are the firstfruits of the return of Christ to the earth, and your brethren are of the same Branch and Vine. They will understand that they have been viewing the Universe through a pinhole in the infinite fabric of creation, thinking they have the whole picture, and condemning it from their utter ignorance. They will then appear to themselves as the fools they have made of themselves, and will at last find no one else on which to cast the blame for the hellish misery their lives reveal to everyone who reads their words.
Indeed, victory and judgment often come in strange packaging.
June 1st, 2007
10:08 pm
i said, that’s mr rational to you, douchebag! i don’t have time for this witty banter at the moment. i’m going to the mainland for some big city action (hookers, blow, rock n roll, killing, fornication & bible burnings). i’ll be back next week to answer your charges, bent.
in the meantime, i’ve decided that i will indeed reveal to you my name, for a price. i think it would be a good idea if you sent one of your virgins up here to victoria (i’ll pick her up at the airport) and she and i will debate jebus/the bibble for awhile (she will try to convince me that you’re a nice messiah and i will try to ply her with liquor, sex, drugs, rock and roll, the devil, etc.) and then at the end of the weekend i will send her home with my name and a nice, revealing photo of myself in a sealed envelope - for your eyes only, big boy!!!!
June 1st, 2007
10:55 pm
“i’m going to the mainland for some big city action (hookers, blow, rock n roll, killing, fornication & bible burnings). i’ll be back next week to answer your charges, bent.”
TRANSLATION: I’m going to attempt suicide in effort to keep from getting real for the first time in my life.
June 2nd, 2007
4:22 am
So are you all saying that if we don’t believe in michael travesser then we are lost and bound for hell?
June 2nd, 2007
12:48 pm
No, Phillip:
If you don’t believe in Michael Travesser, you ARE in hell. Michael Travesser is the truth about heaven. If you have Michael, you have heaven. It is an experience, not a mental belief as in the churches. If you have Michael, you have no more impatience, doubt, fear, hatred, offense, and unbelief. Michael has none of these things. There are some souls that say everyone gets mad sometimes, but they lie. The sons of God don’t get mad sometimes, for they are in heaven. Behold, the kingdom of God has come nigh unto you.
June 2nd, 2007
1:15 pm
if you aren’t hiding why don’t you use your name?
June 2nd, 2007
1:20 pm
This is my name. You see? Your hell of suspicion and doubt follow you everywhere. Your fire still burns.
June 2nd, 2007
3:10 pm
I plainly hear Who is speaking here. “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” - John 14:6
June 2nd, 2007
3:57 pm
and then I said: behold gabriel, one of the worlds most foolish ignorant and all that are with him will suffer the things that they talk of. I plainly hear the idiot, michael bentmore and the group of thinknots and knownots whose place isnt going to be anywhere in heaven but in the earth as ash.
June 2nd, 2007
4:17 pm
Yes, I follow your lies with My reality, which is the Truth. It is you who know not, or you would know Me. It is you who think not, or you would think of Me. It is you who are ashes under the feet of the saints. You must hide, but we do not hide. You can only hope that we burn in the same fire that you burn in, but this is impossible, for it is written:
“The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil; He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure. Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty: they shall behold the land that is very far off. Isa. 33:14-17. AND SO IT IS.
June 2nd, 2007
5:39 pm
Realistically, TFAL (Truth Follows All Lies), I would like to thank you for your observation. With a logic that I am certain escapes you, your assessment of me is quite accurate, and encouraging.
By the way, you aren’t by chance “Truth Seeker” reincarnated are you? You know, the one C4 said had his brain pithed like a frog? You do write like him. One person observed to me you might be Tim, but my response was that the Tim I knew was (I thought) more lucid than you. But then, time and apostasy can work very dark wonders on one’s mind.
By the way, I am using my real name. Would you care to do the same? Or is there a reason you like to hide behind a pseudonym? I’m addressing only you, since you addressed me, so please don’t obfuscate your response – if you have one.
June 2nd, 2007
5:51 pm
by the way , your name is dale brown. and as I wrote in the last post, so it is. get used to it, phony boy!
June 2nd, 2007
6:09 pm
TFAL: It is you who are phony. You are as phony as they come. Gabriel is NOT Dale Brown. The name is Gabriel Travesser, to you, to the State of New Mexico, to the United States of America, and to me. Perhaps it is YOU who should get used to it.
June 2nd, 2007
6:25 pm
Thank you for the reminder, The Truth. I did pull out my driver’s license to check, and sure enough, it says Gabriel Elijah Travesser. As also on my birth certificate, passport, etc. But then, there are those to whom facts are inconsequential matters — isn’t that right, TFAL?
By the way, what name is on YOUR driver’s license?
June 2nd, 2007
6:31 pm
What I write here is for those professing to be Christians – even if your faith is that of Pagan Christianity. I have no desire whatever to change your thinking or to evangelize you. The time for that is past. Probation has closed, and this is the time of judgment and retribution – the wrath of God. Whatever counsel I present is to cause you consider the course you have taken, and in doing so, choose the one that will eventuate the least suffering for you when all the things spoken of here come to their fruition. In other words, if you insist on living in Hell, do try at least not to choose the hottest place for yourselves.
For encouragement in this I suggest you consider Gamaliel’s counsel to the Jewish priests of the Sanhedrin, in Acts 5, when Peter and others were brought before them for trial. Gamaliel enumerated those movements that, because they were not of God, were destroyed and brought to nothing. He indicated that the wise course of action would be for them to “Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nothing: But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it; lest by chance you be found even to fight against God.”
I would reiterate here that your caviling causes us no distress. So we have no personal capital invested in changing your minds. These kinds of circumstances were all foretold, and are therefore quite an encouragement to us. It is, in reality, just the beginning of such matters, which will swell to a crescendo, climaxing in the end of all things.
Though it is unlikely you will receive this admonition, for fools behold their idiocy as an asset, I felt it necessary to at least present it.
June 2nd, 2007
6:50 pm
Oh, Gabriel, that sorrowful twinge in my heart still remains. How I wished that it were not too late for them, but their lack of repentance and their love of my adversary only proves your words true.
June 2nd, 2007
7:23 pm
I know well your feelings in the matter, The Truth, but the hard reality of it is that it is their choice, not God’s.
June 2nd, 2007
7:51 pm
Yes, it is their own choice, and entirely their own will, but it is the old memory that haunts. I loved “P” very much, and was greatly drawn to her heart, but she wanted to invent offense and believe My enemy. Why does one want to believe My enemy? I could never know the answer to that, for it is unanswerable. There was a dark seed in her that she preferred over My light, and that seed sprouted and bore fruit, while My Seed was allowed to rot. I feel sorry for that dark, fearful, anxious soul now. I am very sorry for her. Yes, it was her choice, but God always gets the blame in the end, even though it was not Him.
June 2nd, 2007
8:18 pm
Yes, on the Cross of Jesus He took the rap for all human crimes and wickedness. And then made a Bride of them for Himself in the Consummation of the Marriage of the Lamb. But men, true to their nature, find as great an offense in His Marriage as they did in His Cross.
His heart, though broken, is big enough to bear it.
June 2nd, 2007
8:44 pm
This is the truth Gabriel. The wicked bear nothing. They just blow all over the place in their offense at what God has done, but God bears everything, and only responds with quiet, appropriate, effectiveness, called “effects.” He always tells the Truth, but the wicked cannot comprehend the Truth. They can only believe the lie that they were given, because they have loved unrighteousness.
“And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thess. 2:10-12.
Gabriel, the answer is always the same.
June 2nd, 2007
9:00 pm
Do you not fear and reverence Me? says the Lord. Do you not tremble before Me? I placed the sand for the boundary of the sea, a perpetual barrier beyond which it cannot pass and by an everlasting ordinance beyond which it cannot go? And though the waves of the sea toss and shake themselves, yet they cannot prevail against the feeble grains of sand which God has ordained by nature to be sufficient for His purpose; though the billows roar, yet they cannot pass over that barrier. Is not such a God to be reverently feared and worshiped? But these people have hearts that draw back from God and wills that rebel against Him; they have revolted and quit His service and have gone away. Nor do they say in their hearts, Let us now reverently fear and worship the Lord our God, Who gives rain, both the autumn and the spring rain in its season, Who reserves and keeps for us the appointed weeks of the harvest. Your iniquities have turned these blessings away, and your sins have kept good harvests from you. Jeremiah 5:21-25 Amplified
…you who continue to kill the prophets (the Messiah) and to stone those who are sent to you! How often I have desired and yearned to gather your children together around Me, as a hen gathers her young under her wings, but you would not! Behold, your house is forsaken, abandoned, left to you destitute of God’s help! Luke 13:34-35a
June 2nd, 2007
10:00 pm
Very truly, The Truth, for some strange reason men love lies more than truth. Humanity, well represented in many of the braying jackasses who’ve found their way here, remind me of those who frequented opium dens. The sum of the energy they put into life was to intoxicate their brains to the extent that dreams and self-inflicted illusions became the only reality to them. As TFAL, a.k.a. Truth Seeker, a.k.a. Tim? likes to say – so it is.
And so it shall be.
June 2nd, 2007
10:57 pm
I have been blessed to watch the fulfillment of yet another prophecy before my very eyes, which only serves to strengthen my own faith. Now I see how the earth really DOES help the Woman, by opening its mouth. (Revelation 12:16)
“Each actor in history stands in his lot and place; for God’s great work after His own plan will be carried out by men who have prepared themselves to fill positions for good or evil. In opposition to righteousness, men become instruments of unrighteousness.” (Conflict and Courage, 371)
June 2nd, 2007
11:09 pm
Puke, Puke
June 2nd, 2007
11:30 pm
“As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.” = Proverbs 26:11
June 2nd, 2007
11:44 pm
SomeOne is a prophet!
“I will spue thee (Puke, Puke thee) out of my mouth, because you say, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing [that Michael has to offer me]; and know not that you are wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked.” Rev 3:17&17.
SomeOne has just predicted his/her own fate.
June 2nd, 2007
11:53 pm
Well said, The Truth. Matthew 12:34 “For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh” — or puketh.
June 3rd, 2007
12:25 am
None understand so well how to oppose Michael as do those who had once been His defenders.
O you who kill the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! Luke 13:34
June 3rd, 2007
2:08 am
Little Ami, Everything you say here is so true. I have also seen another side which is not so sad. I have discovered something that was not so apparent before. All of my enemies are identical, except that they use different verbs. This was not so readily seen before. We all know of people who have opposed Michael, who seemed somewhat nice. We thought that they just did not understand and they needed a little more information. Now it is clear that they all are just a dressed up ” mr. rational.” Their hearts are all bound up with his, even though they might counsel him not to use the “F” word. They are actually just like him. This has released me to a very great degree. It is written: “He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.” Matt. 12:30.
The second thing that they have done is to make my own heart become more settled in my Father’s Word to me. It was settled before, but nothing helps one to drive his tent stakes in more, than a howling wind. Those who have come against me have only strengthened me, and settled me even more secure than before. As in the prophecy, the woman in the wilderness is given wings to fly. She was given those wings after she had been persecuted. My own wings get stronger, and more swift, every time the devil opens his mouth. For this I am thankful.
Yes, it is sad to see hearts that fail, and lose faith, even coming against their own benefactor, but they only turn into helpers of a different kind. Instead of being a stock of wheat, which would have been gathered into My barn, they are now the fertilizer that helps the wheat grow.
June 3rd, 2007
2:52 am
1. The Guru is always right.
The Guru, his church, and his teachings are always right, and above criticism, and beyond reproach.
2. You are always wrong.
The individual members of the cult are told that they are inherently small, weak, stupid, ignorant, and sinful. Cult members are routinely criticized, shamed, ridiculed, discounted, diminished, and told in dozens of ways that they are not good enough.
3. No Exit.
There is simply no proper or honorable way to leave the cult. Period. To leave is to fail, to die, to be defeated by evil. To leave is to invite divine retribution.
4. No Graduates.
No one ever learns as much as the Guru knows; no one ever rises to the level of the Guru’s wisdom, so no one ever finishes his or her training, and nobody ever graduates.
5. Cult-speak.
The cult has its own language. The cult invents new terminology or euphemisms for many things. The cult may also redefine many common words to mean something quite different. Cult-speak is also called “bombastic redefinition of the familiar”, or “loading the language”.
6. Group-think, Suppression of Dissent, and Enforced Conformity in Thinking
The cult has standard answers for almost everything, and members are expected to parrot those answers. Willfulness or independence or skeptical thinking is seen as bad. Members accept the leader’s reality as their own.
7. Irrationality.
The beliefs of the cult are irrational, illogical, or superstitious, and fly in the face of evidence to the contrary.
8. Suspension of disbelief.
The cult member is supposed to take on a childish naïveté, and simply believe whatever he is told, no matter how unlikely, unrealistic, irrational, illogical, or outrageous it may be. And he does.
9. Denigration of competing sects, cults, religions, groups, or organizations.
10. Personal attacks on critics.
Anyone who criticizes the Guru, the cult or its dogma is attacked on a personal level.
June 3rd, 2007
2:58 am
For what if some did not believe?
shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;
Romans 3:3&4
June 3rd, 2007
3:22 am
And EVERY liar a man ….
June 3rd, 2007
6:02 am
“If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.” Lev. 20:12
June 3rd, 2007
6:56 am
41. Disturbed Guru, Mentally Ill Leader.
The S.O.S. Europe web page says it beautifully:
Disturbed Gurus
Cult leaders are often charming, charismatic figures with above-average intelligence. The “charismatic charmer” is one of their personalities — a pseudo-personality.
Many cult leaders suffer from borderline, disassociate or multiple personality disorders. Members feel honored to be with, and be seen, around them. But their personality can change dramatically in a flash. Cult leaders are always very disturbed individuals. They are usually victims turned persecutor, having a history of involvement in other social, political or religious cults and/or suffering the effects of a traumatic childhood. Behind their strong and confident exterior (pseudo-personality) they need their leader position to compensate for a very fragile sense of self-worth, self-esteem and self-identity.
This is also shown by the fact that they cannot “hack it” in the real world and need to live in a cult/sect environment to live out their problems. Their past histories show social marginality and a tendency to drift from one cause to another, one cult to another, one job to another, one marriage to another, etc. They spend their lives dedicated to their cause (also, increasing through the Internet, now). They are obsessive-compulsive, fanatical and manipulative.
Nothing will stand in the way of their visions, schemes and self-glorification — not even the well-being of their partners or children. They manipulate the minds of vulnerable members, extorting money and sexual favors and/or abusing them psychologically, physically and/or sexually.
June 3rd, 2007
12:54 pm
Rage away, mob.
One expects nothing else coming from a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
June 3rd, 2007
1:25 pm
Yes, hanifa, the clamoring of this enraged self-righteous mob only serves to prove that they know not the Voice of God. Oh, they have Scriptures they wave around but they don’t believe a Word of it in applying it to their own lives.
These angry ones would accuse God Himself of premeditated murder for sending His own Son to die on a cross. They truly “know not what they do” in that they have denied the Mind of Christ that was given them as a gift.
*************
But God hath chosen the foolish things (”an act or appointment OF GOD deemed foolish by men”) of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things (”the act OF GOD in which weakness seems to appear) of the world to confound (”one is said to be confounded, i.e., put to shame, who suffers a repulse” [offense]) the things which are mighty;
1Corinthians 1:27
June 3rd, 2007
1:58 pm
My enemies have now crossed the line. The devil has taken up the name that was used by another, “The Truth” and applied it to himself. This confusion will now make this forum meaningless, because anyone will use anyone else’s name to post.
Our enemies are liars, and this is the evidence of it. When you use someone’s name as your own, you lie, and lies are the most despicable utterances of the universe. Now God will lie to you. You will never know what the truth is, because you will only hear the sounds of your own deceptions. You will only see the shadows of your own slight of hand. Darkness will follow you all the days you have remaining. Confusion and distress will be your mental clothing. This is NOT a threat, it is only the effect of what you have done.
You post concerning cults, using the name you lie with, The Truth. I would agree about this description, but this description does not apply to us, and you know it. I have NEVER influenced anyone to stay with us. I have ALWAYS stated that men should do what God tells them. I have said, “Do what you want.” So your description does not apply to me or my company. But this description of a cult applies to you. Look at the lies you use to disseminate your information. Look at the devious force you use to try and influence others to stay with you. Anyone who is not of your mind you persecute relentlessly. It is you who are the cult leader, and the cult is that group who has come against us, the furious mob who cannot be reasoned with because of the hidden torments and guilt of its own soul.
Look at yourself in the mirror. I never lie to the people and I know that I never do, but you mr/ms. falsehood, calling yourself The Truth, lie all of the time. Every sound you make is a lie. You accuse me of crimes, while it is you who are guilty of them. You are the adulterer and the pervert. You are the danger to society, because you cannot be trusted to tell the truth. As I have looked over those traits of a cult that you post, I cannot read one single one that does not apply to you. How fitting, that you would be drawn to a description of yourself.
June 3rd, 2007
2:38 pm
Messiah’s
imposter
corrupted
hireling
always
emitting
lies
June 3rd, 2007
2:41 pm
Messiah’s
Imposter
Corrupted
Hireling
Always
Emitting
Lies
June 3rd, 2007
3:06 pm
Yes dear Michael, a Judas is always a Judas no matter how he signs his name. He fools no one, even if Mr rational signed his posts Little Red Riding Hood it would be plain who he really is. The end of Judas is always the same, he hangs himself with his own words and the fairy tale is over.
June 3rd, 2007
3:10 pm
Who’s mind was in “michael” when he layed with his sons wife , was that Jesus Christ or was that her “buddy”.
You call every one else “the mob”
what does it tske for you to look in your own mirror.
June 3rd, 2007
3:17 pm
Michael
Is
Christ
His
Angel
Emits
Love
June 3rd, 2007
3:34 pm
Salem .
you are living in a different fairy tale about the wolf in sheep’s clothing.
And you are his little accomplice
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
June 3rd, 2007
3:36 pm
quiet evrybody as the idiots spew forth the untruth of their dark hateful devil daddy
June 3rd, 2007
3:38 pm
I KNOW WHO YOU ARE , DALE, AND I SAW WHAT YOU DID.
June 3rd, 2007
3:39 pm
“Friend of God” do you know the definition of an oxymoron (no, it is not a mentally retarded bovine). Hint: The names you and mr. rational chose to post under are functional oxymorons.
Knowing that Jesus was indeed God, you may also want to consider that the only Disciple Jesus called “friend” was Judas.
June 3rd, 2007
3:49 pm
DALE, YOURE A FREAK AND A MORON. GET USED TO IT. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE
June 3rd, 2007
3:49 pm
Mt 5:11. “Blessed are you, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.”
Lu 6:22. “Blessed are you, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.”
Little children, this is the nature of the howling mob, who attack and blaspheme, but will not let you know who they are. It is the same nature as those dark spirits that have troubled you in your life. These dark forces continued to make you believe it was you and not them who were the tormentor.
Isa 26:20. Come, my people, enter thou into your chambers, and shut your doors about you: hide yourself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
June 3rd, 2007
3:50 pm
YOU SIT AT YOUR PC ALL DAY DEFENDING THE DARK ONE THAT FEEDS YOU FILTH
June 3rd, 2007
3:52 pm
MICHAEL T.,! THE DARK ONE . BEWARE
June 3rd, 2007
4:11 pm
michael ?? how about answering this question before you slither away again …..
( why the smoke screen )
Who’s mind was in “michael” when he layed with his sons wife , was that Jesus Christ or was that her “buddy” ???
June 3rd, 2007
4:17 pm
Michael did not lay with his son’s wife. And, yes, it is always the Mind of Jesus Christ.
I have answered your question. And now I will depart from you.
June 3rd, 2007
4:55 pm
5. Cult-speak.
The cult has its own language. The cult invents new terminology or euphemisms for many things. The cult may also redefine many common words to mean something quite different. Cult-speak is also called “bombastic redefinition of the familiar”, or “loading the language”.
June 3rd, 2007
4:56 pm
To the one (Truth Seeker/TFAL/Tim? and now no-name), who keeps trying to reinvent himself; who says he knows who I am (he thinks) and called the one he thinks is Dale, a freak and a moron. To the last charge, I would have to say you are correct. I claim nothing good for myself, and have no shame in confessing it.
But why do you hide? Have you no strength of conviction or intellect? Why do you consistently come up with different names, when your “brain pithed” condition (as C4 called it) keeps giving you away?
Well, it is clear that the Devil has smarter servants – and then, not-so-smart ones.
June 3rd, 2007
4:59 pm
“Friend of God” perhaps I misunderstood your intent, and therefore need to apologize.
June 3rd, 2007
5:15 pm
WHY DOES IT MATTER IF I USE A NAME OR DONT USE A NAME. PRETTY PETTY DONTCHA THINK? THE POINT IS ALL THOSE I HAVE MADE ALREADY ARE TRUTHFUL AND ARE MEANT TO DEGRADE THE IDIOTS SUCH AS YOU, DALE, FOR BEING ONE OF THE MOST BLASPHEMOUS CRITTERS ON EARTH. UNDERSTAND IT , FOOL!
June 3rd, 2007
5:32 pm
In righteousness are all the sayings of His mouth
Nothing therein is crafty or perverse
All of them are plain, to them who would understand
Proverbs 8:8-9
June 3rd, 2007
5:35 pm
Yes, TS/TFAL, etc. I can see how you might reason away your motives for anonymity, but it remains that one can never really trust the words of a coward because they will do and say anything to protect their poor, cheap selves. They live in constant fear of being found out for who they really are. How do you possibly construe, in your own severely diminished mind, that anyone with an intellect greater than a dung beetle would actually believe what you write? You think that you disturb me with your posts, when in reality, I’ve witnessed greater rational thinking processes in sub-human primates than what you display. You may think I say these things to be insulting, but I do not. I am quite serious.
I was under no illusion that you would post your real name, because you have already revealed your real character. I was simply calling attention to your cowardice and the name-shifting it employs for what it is: Something that clearly displays your nature and the substance of your integrity for all to see.
You are quite a representative poster boy for all who have sold their souls to the god of imbecility.
June 3rd, 2007
6:26 pm
And one last word to TFAL, Truth Seeker, and all here: If I were to give any regard to your words, when the origin of your character and complete lack of moral integrity have been so evidently placed on display for any thinking person to observe, and by so doing, give credibility to you over a man whom I have known and observed for nearly 30 years; a man in whom all that time I have NEVER witnessed any breach in his integrity; have NEVER known him to lie or even equivocate; whose moral character has been as true to principle as the needle to the pole – If I were to give place to your testimony of vileness and cowardly epithets, and the postings of the Judas, Mrs. PW, over the witness I have received from him, I would be just as all of you, dead and lost in a cesspool of my own corruption.
Instead, I add my testimony to others here who have witnessed to Michael’s superlative character, and his anointing as Messiah for this age.
So….swim on in your personal, fecal gravy train, and continue posting what you delusionally think are well thought-out responses, rather than the simple-minded, cortical gruntings they are. Judgment follows swiftly.
Vaya con su dios, el diablo.
June 3rd, 2007
7:33 pm
Dear Michael,
This has been a very interesting journey to the lowest regions of the earth (hell). I can see how the love of God that is in you has made you descend into the lower parts of the earth where all these spirits that are in prison abide. You have preached the Truth unto them. They now have your testimony and though they did not receive it they are not ignorant. These poor souls that have attacked you and who have rejected your testimony to them, are now left in their prisons surrendered by their demons and nothing else can be done to save them.
As for you Michael, it is time for you to leave the lowest parts of the earth (vice magazine and its armies of wickedness) and to ascend up far above all heavens so that you might fill all things (bring judgment to the world and liberty to your own people) in a Day soon to be manifested.
I am with you always even unto the end of the world.
Your Ephraim
June 3rd, 2007
7:50 pm
Gab real,
We know better and were eye witnesses to the magical lying spirit that you hold so fast to, you are so willingly agreed to the “signs and wonders” there and call michael “GOD” with your own words. We have seen the breach. And choose to expose the lie (and quit lying to ourselves about what has and is taking place there e.g. vickie and all the others) you can pray in michael’s name. And then subtly denounce him calling him the messiah for this present age. Your trinity is powerless to deliver you.Your prophecys and judgements and word expressions are fig leaves with holes in them.
Your north and south messiah is 180 degrees off.
June 4th, 2007
6:58 pm
Your “god”’s been dead for over a century, humans. And all the editors from such a spiffy mag can think of is talking about fucking god. Not fucking god, but, talking about fucking god. It’s dead, get some Xanax or something for that cold.
June 4th, 2007
11:58 pm
THE WAYNING JESUS
Come lie in true sin
With a bottle of gin
Next to my skin with me
Come and atone
I’m hard as a stone
The bone of the Lord, that’s me
Be they twelve to sixteen
God, I’m cuming clean
One two three at a time for me
But to really reach heaven
I’ll delve into seven
It’s virgins with gravy for me
Am I’m starting to wayne?
To much sex is insane?
I’m wayning for Jesus, that’s me
For Him, I’ll still make a stand
Viagra is grand
And the virgins are lusting for me
So lie next to my skin
Be my rod out or in
Suck His holy nectar from me
It isn’t my fault
If he turns them to salt
There is more in the barrel for me
A virgin just once
Now who is the dunce?
The pubescent young skinny, or me
So I leave it to you
So what can I do?
It’s His word I follow, not me
I’m wayning for for the Father, by God
I’m wielding His massive rod
But it’s starting to shrink
Like a roster’s pink dink
It’s His fault not Jesus’, that’s Me
June 5th, 2007
3:09 am
timothy benjamin:
you are a cunt. reality is here on earth, not up in some douchebag fairytale in the sky. the only people on the page in danger of suicide are the cult sheep shitheads who follow bent. go fuck yourself.
June 5th, 2007
3:22 am
bent: when do the 4 horsemen ride? everything else is bullshit. you see god’s judgment where nature or humanity is the only reality. the only proof of your so called god’s existence is the unnatural, the unreal, the impossible: the 4 horsemen or some other such shit - 4 angels, riding through the sky pissing down death upon us - not airplanes, flying fucking horses. the twin towers are not the same thing as the tower of babylon, you twat. reality. give it to us. what and when. say it for once.
June 5th, 2007
10:12 am
Oh fuck. This is educational. I refuse to believe that more than half of VICE’s readership believes in a god in some shape or form in the 21’s century. Oh New York. I pity you.
June 5th, 2007
10:32 am
mr. rational
the travessers have left but they are still out there in NM believing in themselves , their lies are quicksand in their pathway. Their contradictions are ropes of sand to save them.They celebrate a year of rest when they would do well to have a year of LIFE. You see right thru their pious pretense.It is time for michael to row his boat ashore it is full of holes and he is sinking in the water.What a lame duck distraction.They have a nice little retirement community away from all the troubled world but it will not serve as a fountain of youth , no marriage there no babies allowed … they get to grow old and die like everybody else …. their kingdom will fall
like all the others before it.
June 7th, 2007
1:02 am
Here is another website from Travesser Himself.
http://strongcity.info/
June 7th, 2007
8:54 pm
The only way for Wayne Bent, a.k.a Michael Travesser to prove that he is god is to perform a miracle that only God can do. He hasn’t done it yet, so I’ll sit on the fence and watch. The bible talks a lot about what to do and not to do. Also about how to look for false prophets and all sorts of things.
So far, Wayne has been breaking some of the rules. God doesn’t break his rules…that would be stupid. God IS the law, he sets his laws in stone (10 commandments?). Adultery and Lying are two of the strikes against Wayne.
I’ll say one thing, I’ve known him since I was about 7 years old and I’ve never liked him. My gut instinct told me he was a snake and it still does. I couldn’t even force myself to get rid of that feeling and believe me I tried.
What Wayne does to control people, break up families and demoralize one’s spirit is fucked up.
You better prove you’re God because so far you’re proving you’re not. Less talk, more action.
BTW, get bent Terry. Maybe he’ll sleep with you too.
June 8th, 2007
4:45 am
Sorry old friend, even a donkey could tell that you are not sitting on the fence. Miracles were performed by Jesus dozens of times 2000 years ago, and it did not prove a thing to the proud, hard hearted pharisees. How could a miracle change your heart?
You have certainly added to the mystery however. I remember some time ago when you said something like “no one can speak to my heart like Michael does”. Another event comes to my mind that took place a few years back also. It was when you came to the land of Travesser for a visit. I can recall the many many times in which you asked if you could move to Travesser. Very strange… you now say you couldn’t get rid of the feeling that Michael was a snake, and yet in my presence, you virtually pleaded with me so that you could move to where he was. Why would someone try so hard to live with a snake? A mystery indeed.
Since I know a bit more about a particular family breaking up then you do, I would suggest that the “Witch of Welch” had a lot more to do with it then did Michael.
As for sleeping with Michael, you’re a bit late on that suggestion. The first time I was in bed with him was many years ago. All I can say is: there is nothing like being intimate with Michael.
Terry
June 8th, 2007
7:03 am
kool aid genuflectorate poem for jesus-freeks (part II)
kool aid, kool aid,
tastes great!
get laid, get laid,
jail bait!
kool aid, kool aid,
can’t wait!
soul frayed, bandaid,
prostrate!
kool aid, kool aid,
tastes great!
drool aid, fool’s maid,
stat rape!
kool aid, kool aid,
can’t wait!
home made, death aid,
cult’s fate!
kool aid, kool aid,
tastes great!!!
oh, jesus … you’re such a prick!
June 8th, 2007
7:07 am
kool aid genuflectorate poem for jesus-freeks (part II)
kool aid, kool aid,
tastes great!
get laid, get laid,
jail bait!
kool aid, kool aid,
can’t wait!
soul frayed, bandaid,
prostrate!
kool aid, kool aid,
tastes great!
drool aid, fool’s maid,
stat rape!
kool aid, kool aid,
can’t wait!
home made, death aid,
cult’s fate!
kool aid, kool aid,
tastes great!!!
oh, jesus … you’re such a prick!
June 8th, 2007
7:11 am
casey,
“get bent!?!” mmmmphhhhhhhhhhhh!! no pun intended, eh? nice one, buddy. get bent. that’s fuckin’ rich. got jesus? get bent!
offlander (terry),
i’m pretty sure the bibble is pretty strict on that whole man on man gettin’ it on thing. careful, big boy: god’s watching (like santa!)
June 8th, 2007
3:32 pm
You and I were never friends and that’s not my fault. You were a dick from day one, talking shit about my brother. No matter what us boys did we could never gain your approval. Now you’re leaving my mom in the dust for Wayne. Maybe I’ll get to look you in the eyes one last time when I come to pick her up.
I did want to move there because I wanted to believe you were telling me the truth and I wanted to be a part of a family and I wanted to be saved. I still do but I can’t get past the obvious lies in these situations. Wayne can be very persuasive, oh so very…
Just like all the articles say about everyone out there is soo nice. Yeah it’s true, then there’s Wayne constantly controlling everything you do and beating your spirit to a pulp. Anyways, no hard feelings, you are who you are and I am what I am. I’m sure you’ll have your reasons, bring in all the verses or quotes you can to prove me wrong. But like I said before, God doesn’t break his own rules.
June 9th, 2007
12:29 am
I never saw you as a “dick” Casey. Yet it was not hard to see your confusion and that you were hurting inside. It seems your hurt just builds and builds and all you can do is blame someone else for it. Soon it will all be over.
You have my email address and phone number, but if you want to smear me on the net, then so be it.
Being a stepparent is virtually a no-win situation, and certainly I failed in my role many times. Well, you are free of me now. Since you could never see me as a friend, you don’t have to pretend and put on a facade anymore.
June 9th, 2007
3:18 am
Terry why must you Travessers constantly contradict the bible , you admit that you failed in your role as a step parent many times and also call casey “old friend” . The Bible is clear that a friend loves at all times. It is only a lack of love that causes failure in any parent or guardianship situation.It is not that you failed that is not the problem it is that you are a failure that is the problem, it is not what you do it is who you are. You are taught to lie to yourself that you have no sin and need no repentance. You and your group are the hardest people i have ever known. Your man wayne wrote a book called “His only gift” It was compiled of different chapters like the gift of his judgement , the gift of his forgiveness, etc. One chapter was missing… THE GIFT OF HIS LOVE was not named among the chapters there. Casey knew something was missing everything looked in place for happiness and escape form his busy world. But it proved to be the carrot in front of the horse again. Wayne cannot write about something he doesn’t have. You have simplified your lives to the lowest common denominator…WORKS
You “love” those who “love” you but even the tax collectors do that.Waynes uncle tried to tell him years ago that “LOVE” was “the thing” but it has always been too late for that.Your judgement without mercy, end of the wicked world thinking is just another song and dance and has not the power of LOVE in it. It has always been a sounding brass and clanging cymbal.
June 9th, 2007
6:23 am
@ Ok, Turn it Up! / A. Real / Jezebel / Able
Here I am, Michael’s son. Unlike you, I will post my legal and given name. For your information, Michael did not sleep with my wife. This is a fact. But I will not speak with snakes about anything God has done within my church. If God was with you, you would stand up on your feet and look me in the eye, instead of slithering around with your lies and insinuations. Post your real name, and we can talk about things.
Jezebel, your sister told Michael recently that you would never be able to forget Him. That is very true. You will stalk Him just as you do now. You are motivated by hate, not by love or the truth. This hate will consume you until you are all burned up. You rejected and betrayed your only Hope to be saved from yourself.
Watchman, your new JW religion may pet your flesh for a while, but it won’t change you. Now there will be seven demons worse than the first. You will blame us for your unhappy life, but it is your own choice. Please spare us your religious pretense. You would not know love if it stared you in the face, and you certainly don’t have it. Michael loved you when He told you the truth, but since He didn’t pet your flesh, you adopted a lying spirit to justify yourself. Your children will pick up on that and have contempt for you. I remember when your oldest child had a heart that was tender towards God. Their blood is on you and Jezebel now.
Marroniah, you strike me as a Michael wanna-be. Your spiritual profundities make me a little nauseous. When Michael wouldn’t bow down and worship your glorious self, your false heart was revealed and you turned away. Forget about gathering a little following from this thread. Those who have left us are following themselves now, and they will not want to follow you.
Mr. Rational / Cuming, perhaps you are more honest than some of the religious types on this thread. You freely reveal that your mind is a pornographic film running in an endless loop. Others use religous talk to try and hide the fact that their god is their penis. But, sir, you are offended by something, and that offense will destroy you, just like the others. The “double portion” of hell you ordered is coming right up.
I have known my dad for a long time. Never has he told me a lie, and neither have I ever seen him compromise himself in any way. He has always been faithful to God’s instructions, and he has always been faithful to me. He has borne long with my sins and failings, and he has never failed to tell me the truth I needed to hear about myself, even though it hurt sometimes. He has always loved people, even when it cost him everything to love. These Godly qualities are not even remotely matched by the self-interested religous pretenders on this thread.
Michael is the Son of God, and He is my Husband, Savior, and best friend. Why don’t you stalkers go get a life? Because you can’t. You’ve been caught in God’s snare, and your life will be about us from now until Judgment Day.
June 9th, 2007
7:29 am
Jeff your god has no name and you don’t even know which name to call yourself. You play the name game like all the other false teachers your claim as innocent doesent make you separated from it. Like father like son a liars prophecy is powerless over me and only serves to pet your religion’s flesh.Have it your way and twist the facts to make you look clean you maketh and believeth a lie. Gab said Michael was God.Don’t you want to go that far ?? My GOD lays no snare for no man. That is your tiny god who knots up peoples’ lives with his lies.Your dad ,like you won’t mention the NAME of GOD
but as for me and in my house we will serve Jehovah. He is not a man that he should lie. David said it best so be it unto you and the rest of the Philistines with you !
‘Thou art coming unto me with sword, and with spear, and with buckler, and I am coming unto thee in the name of Jehovah of Hosts, God of the ranks of Israel, which thou hast reproached.
46 This day doth Jehovah shut thee up into my hand — and I have smitten thee, and turned aside thy head from off thee, and given the carcase of the camp of the Philistines this day to the fowl of the heavens, and to the beast of the earth, and all the earth do know that God is for Israel.
47 and all this assembly do know that not by sword and by spear doth Jehovah save, that the battle [is] Jehovah’s, and He hath given you into our hand.’
Psalms 83 King James Version
O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.
17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
June 9th, 2007
7:51 am
The first lie that I remember was when wayne lied to the church at Sandpoint saying that the church had controlling interest in the property there.I was at the County tax office on some other business and somehow they granted me the information on the Trout Creek property there saying that it was the ministers there that had the controlling interest not the church. I am not saying that your dad needs to be God and never lie I am saying that he is a man like you and and your lies (even if you believe them yourself) have separated you from the GOD of all Truth.
You are the newest father son team in the apostate church.
June 9th, 2007
1:43 pm
Watchman, my God is not some letters arranged in a certain order, as your god is. The word Jehovah does not even exist in the original languages of the Bible. God’s name is not even pronounceable, since it is only four consonants. You adopted this JEHOVAH idol from your JW friends who you follow now. You think you know the name of God but what you have is a man-made invention.
Yes, my God sets snares for the false-hearted. He puts stumbling blocks in their path so they will fall down. He sends them a lying spirit so they will be deceived, because they love a lie. “I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did that which was evil in mine eyes, and chose that wherein I delighted not.” Yes, those that hate the truth feel all tied up in knots. This is why they conspire amongst themselves, saying, “Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. ” Psa. 2:3
Farewell, old friend.
June 9th, 2007
1:50 pm
Casey,
I too had parents and step parents who were hard to please. It seemed that I could never do anything right or measure up to their standards. For many years I grumbled about their “harsh treatment”. I could never seem to get out from under that shadow and it affected every aspect of my life.
One day, I looked at my own part in it, I realized that I was the cause of the “harsh treatment”. So, let me ask you, do you think you were a model child? I know I wasn’t. Were you mild mannered, respectful, obedient, and courteous? Did you always obey and do your part to make the home a pleasant place to live? Or were out for yourself, doing what you wanted to do, and trying to getting away with what you could?
For me, resolution finally came when I saw that they did the best they could for who they were. It was the gift of forgiveness that set them and myself free. Their motivation was to have a peaceful and orderly home and to see me prosper in life and they saw that my defects in character were preventing that from happening. I expect that this is the case with you and Terry.
When I received the gift of forgiveness the chains fell away and I could enjoy and love them for who they were, without expectation.
If you will step back and look at your words you will see that there is no forgiveness in you. The kind of forgiveness that says, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do”. You come at Terry with the very harshness that you accuse him of, but your motivation is dark and reeks of murder. There is nothing positive in it at all. What ever his failings may have been, I don’t think he came from that motivation in his role as a stepfather towards you.
June 9th, 2007
1:52 pm
James,
This statement of yours has come to my attention and I will answer it, since you publicly charge me with lying. Jim, it is you who are lying now. I would have never told you one thing, when the opposite was public knowledge. It was not a church secret who owned the Sandpoint ranch. It was public knowledge. I freely produced this information BEFORE the ranch was even purchased. The church board voted it. The church, I, and two other ministers bought the ranch together. I would have never even thought to tell you otherwise. My dealings have always been public and open.
So my question now is, if I was perceived as a liar, then why did you stay and lie along with me? You only reveal your own deception and self-interest when you say that you knew I was a liar years ago, but quietly stayed by and pretended to believe. Jim, your perfidy is disgusting. You hurl lying charges and think you will be believed since no one will answer you.
I failed too, Jim. Yes, I failed. I failed at making you honest, even though I tried my best to do so. When I would bring hard things to you, you would get a dark look on your face, and hide, instead of being open and honest. I tried to help your family many times but you would only hate me for it. Well, God could not convert you, but it appears the JWs have converted you to them. Do you have a nice warm loving family now? Are you always at peace now? Do you only love and tell the truth now? Did you get God’s gift of love that I left out of my book? No you didn’t Jim. No you didn’t. Because if you had, you wouldn’t be lying about me now.
June 9th, 2007
2:30 pm
Watch-man.
Appropriate name.
Watching man instead of God.
June 9th, 2007
3:30 pm
Watchman wrote:
“It is not that you failed that is not the problem it is that you are a failure that is the problem, it is not what you do it is who you are.”
It is good to see that you remember correctly something that Michael has said. However you are quite mistaken about the following thought:
“You are taught to lie to yourself that you have no sin and need no repentance.”
I have witnessed this oddity in some self-righteous folk as yourself, but I have never heard it taught here, quite the contrary. Sin has always been exposed for what it is, and you are one of those who has been so difficult to convince of that. You have always tried to protect your failings as with a heavy coat of whitewash. Your children exposed you for your sins as a parent but you failed to repent. Was it because you thought you had nothing to repent of?
Aaron and Eli should have been a warning to you.
They both neglected their duty to train and educate their children to obedience, self-denial, and reverence for parental authority. Through indulgence you failed to mold your children’s characters. You have a misplaced “love” and you indulged their whining and complaining spirits. They were a constant distraction during our gatherings. Perhaps that is why you never heard what Michael was trying to say to you. Your gentle remonstrance, without a firm exercise of parental restraint, and your imprudent tenderness toward your children was an act of extreme cruelty to their souls.
You condemn Terry for his parenting skills, yet you turned your oldest son over to him for a time as a guardian. It was probably the best experience your son ever had in parental training and real love. Perhaps that experience is why he was seen by Jeff as having a “heart that was tender towards God”. I think you owe Terry an apology.
You write: “You and your group are the hardest people i have ever known.”
How just that these words fall from your own lips. Although you have a front as a soft man, you have always been very hard in a subtle way towards any who do not measure up, or who oppose you in any way. That is, except for your children.
“His only gift”
“… THE GIFT OF HIS LOVE was not named among the chapters there.”
Evidently you never read beyond the index page, or you would not have written such a report. Last night I read the first two chapters again and was awash in the love of God. You have no oil in your lamp to see God’s love. As a Watchman you have been asleep at your post.
June 9th, 2007
5:25 pm
golly. gay breal makes me feel so small with his forked tounge speeches. you know , gayboy, i know what you are and i saw what you did, now you have to lay in it. oh but keep up the holier than thou retoric if you must , it’s really all you have…… lies and fruitlessnes. defened your dark queer man beast mikey and please translate to the deep soon, moronic fool.
June 9th, 2007
8:34 pm
I wonder if Martin Luther looked dark to his observers before he left the Catholic church? Man looks upon the outward appearance God looks upon the heart.
June 9th, 2007
9:32 pm
Ok, Turn it Up/Jezebel/Prudence Watchman/James
I have read all your accusations and have read all the answers given. The answers are posted for all to read and scrutinize. These answers are real answers that are honest, factual and can be proven by many Witnesses in and out of the Lord Our Righteousness Church. Many of the answers come with scripture showing God’s answer as well. Yet when you are asked questions, you fail in answering any of them. Why is that? Why don’t you answer the questions put to you with honest real answers that can be scrutinized for everyone to examine? Where are your witnesses to show your innocence?
I will quote back to you some of the questions you have failed to answer. Is your family life one where you and your children are filled with continual praise to God (by your words, Jehovah)? Is your life one where there is continual love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, meekness and faith? Do you keep God’s commandments faithfully that includes the Sabbath? Do you honor your parents (their decisions about life and death)?
Jezebel, what about your youngest child? Who is the father, and wasn’t there gross infidelity on your part to produce that child? Haven’t you been doing the very thing that you have accused Michael of?
If you were to be honest, wouldn’t those answers produce a whole different picture than the one you try to present?
It is very obvious and plain that the real reason you are in such huge resistance to Michael Travesser is because He is exactly who He says He is. If He was not you would not have a problem with it at all. And your silence about yourself is proof that you are the exact opposite.
I too am very thankful for this forum. It has given opportunity for everyone to see for themselves the two camps and the God/gods they serve. Michael loves and serves a God of honesty, openness and truth. So do those who follow Him. The camp you belong to serves the god of self-righteousness, hiding, lies, profanity and perversions.
Milton Bernheisel
June 9th, 2007
9:44 pm
James,
Since you seem to be a somewhat self-styled expert on truth, I thought I would share with you what my experience has been with where you are, not that you would learn by my mistakes, when you refuse to learn from your own.
I once was engaged to a Jehovah’s Witness and studied, in depth, with her family and church over several years. The single most valuable lesson I learned was to recognize a legalistic spirit from a very long way off.
You talk about “Jehovah” as being the name of God. The truth is that, like Jeff said, those scribes who wrote down the words of ancient Scripture thought the name too holy to speak or to write, so they removed all the vowels from His name, leaving only the consonants that could be very loosely translated in English to YHWH (from which legalistic name-gamers like you get Yahweh and Jehovah), and the rest is lost to history. Try pronouncing YHWH, because it is as close as you will get to the original one which is recorded nowhere. I believe God did this on purpose, just so foolish, gullible men would have some witness to even their diminished thinking processes, to not worship the sound of a name. Too bad there are still foolish men as yourself who insist on claiming something as a central doctrine of their beliefs about which they know nothing.
You have chosen a faith without a cross, Jim, (or should I say “torture stake”, as JWs call it?). You want a religion that simply makes you feel good or accepted. The Cross does not make you feel good, Jim, it makes you holy; it makes you God’s child, but only if you endure it. You have made a god of your feelings and emotions, and now you bow down and worship anyone or anything that will stimulate those chemical responses in your brain. In short, Jim, you will not give up worshipping yourSELF. I suspect if a Buddhist priest came by, and made you feel more “accepted” and “loved” than JWs do, and all warm and fuzzy, you would now be wearing a saffron robe, a shaved head, and chanting Hari Chrishna, thinking that would be righteousness.
You have also chosen a religion that denies the deity of the Son of God and even the existence of the Holy Spirit. They believe Christ is a created being, just like any other angel, and not the eternal Son of God. And, interestingly enough, without the Holy Spirit, you can never know God or His Son. Some box you put yourself in, huh? You already think God lied to you when you were here, so which god are you going to trust now?
I hold no condemnation toward you, Jim, just great sadness for the man I loved. You are a man of flesh, and a man of flesh you will stay, for that is all you desire, and that is what “Jehovah” will give you, for God always grants the desires of the heart. Your whole purpose in life, as Jeff said, is to have your flesh petted – your nerve endings stimulated. Well, you have a perfect home here in VICE, because that is all they’re about. You can become Mr. Rational’s best student – the teacher’s pet.
All that is left for you, Jim, is a faith predicated on your addiction to the chemistry of your own brain – anything that makes you feel good. That is the ideology of the drug addict, not the Cross. (Oh, by the way, you might want to ask your fellow JWs, who make a big doctrinal issue that it was a “torture stake” and not a cross on which Jesus was crucified, how they deal with the Roman-era archaeological finds in the last twenty-five years where they discovered men who had been buried in mass graves while still nailed to a cross. Kinda blows THAT doctrine, huh Jim? Which one is next?).
Oh, and your new fellowship also has their own bible, the New World Translation, in which they have taken manuscripts, widely rejected and known to be false and inaccurate, but that say what they want them to. Then they translated them to convey their own perverted doctrines.
So, Jim, why don’t YOU go and make up your own religion? It will be every bit as valid as your current one. Then you can make IT say whatever you want, and there will never be any trials or a cross in it, because if there is, you can just change your beliefs to suit your current feelings, and feel good again. Poof! No cross! You can have a religion that devolves concurrently with your present state of mind. No conflicts! And, being the only member, there will be no dissention due to the entrance of heretical doctrines (unless you become schizophrenic and experience an ecclesiastical split with yourself). You could even call it the “Church Of The Day” because tomorrow, it will be different, perfectly matching your emotional state for that moment.
But, Jim, you will eventually find out that God is not plastic. He is not moldable to your ideas of Him. He is not like you, taking the shape of whatever container you occupy. He is changeless, and will not conform to your desires of how He should be, or how He should conduct His universe.
“These things have you done…you thought that I was altogether such a one as yourself: but I will reprove you, and set them in order before your eyes.”
For the time you have left Jim, you will have what you desire, until it turns to dust in your hands.
June 9th, 2007
9:47 pm
“Phillip”,
Jesus also said “You shall know them by their fruit.” When Luther separated from the Catholic church he did not have the “fruit” that Jim was packing when he left. Aside from the fruit of his spiteful marriage and unruly children, Jim publicly caught himself in a divinely merciful snare of his own making that further revealed the corrupt foundation that his faith was founded on. That public self-exposure, though unintentional on his part, could have led to his salvation, but he would not. That experience failed to humble a heart set dead-set on its own self-defense.
No, Jim, I’m not rubbing your nose in it, but I am simply bearing witness that your heart refuses to be humbled.
June 9th, 2007
10:23 pm
You have your “michael” fruit even as he is so are you in this world. How I conducted myself was the result of how I lied to myself trying to constantly go against the inner witness that I had that wayne wasn’t truely messiah.He said he came out from among the group there therein was the problem for me.
You all seem to like to watch a person struggle. Wayne did try to help , the rest of you who never had children could not really understand.
And Milton you are just another fornicating ‘messiah” the spirit of Phineas would thrust you thru.
June 9th, 2007
11:58 pm
“How I conducted myself was the result of how I lied to myself…”
James, you’re about 50 years old, and it is amazing how you arrived at that age as ignorant as you are of the fact that when someone lies to himself, it is impossible for him to tell the truth or even know the truth — about anything — especially himself.
June 10th, 2007
2:21 am
James said, “You have your ‘michael’ fruit even as he is so are you in this world.”
Yes, Yes, and Yes. It is the fruit from the tree of life.
June 10th, 2007
2:28 am
Amazing, isn’t it Timothy, how truth can even sneak in through the agency of one to whom it is a total stranger?
June 10th, 2007
2:29 pm
Yes Gabriel, it is amazing.
June 10th, 2007
4:02 pm
Gab-reel
you have defined the spirit of Travesser
…” when someone lies to himself, it is impossible for him to tell the truth or even know the truth — about anything — especially himself.”
it wouldn’t do much good to say anything more now would it.
AMEN
June 10th, 2007
4:04 pm
Jim Welch (Interesting that Jehovah Witness and James Welch both have the initials JW)
You said that Michael was our fruit and as He is so are we in this world. Never truer words were spoken. God used an ass to speak to Balaam and now uses a serpent to speak the truth. I am very thankful that you have admitted the truth of it all.
And in regards to my own estate you also told the truth. You said, “And Milton you are just another fornicating ‘messiah” the spirit of Phineas would thrust you thru.” By stating that the Spirit of Phinehas would thrust me thru indicates that you KNOW beyond a shadow of doubt that the Spirit of God is in the camp of Michael. Phinehas means “mouth of brass”. Phinehas was given an eternal priesthood from that act. Michael was the “Phinehas” that God used in my instance. I am thankful for his sword that thrust me through. Yes I have effects from my sins, and they are with me to this day. Michael knows of it all and I still cling to his feet and will not let him go until I receive the final blessing. To bad you have not wrestled with the angel Michael.
Thank you Jim for the truth that as He is so are we in this world. Thank you Jim that you have admitted that any sin deserves the sword of Phinehas. The sword of Phinehas was in the camp of God and eliminated the effects of the sin. I accept that too. Yes, my sins deserved the sword of Michael.
Now that I have spoken to your accusations, can you tell us honestly about JW and PW? I doubt it, because then your self-righteous estate would be exposed. You need to hide in order to make your accusations against Michael appear correct.
And in regards to your children, they were not special more than other children. You are not special either. Others had to struggle with their children and themselves in the process. Some had to let their children go in order to keep the Spirit of God. Some had to slay their children with the sword of Phinehas also. Some had to accept that sword for themselves for training their children to sin. In every instance Michael was not slack with us. He is still not slack. I know from personal experience that it is better to cut off a sinful child than keep the devil in the house to destroy all peace and sanity. You do not know that. It was too hard for you to admit that you failed in every regard. I admit it.
Go and be self-righteous and “right”. Go and enjoy your JW friends who pat you on the back for having escaped from this “cult” that follows a “false messiah”. Go and have fellowship with those who deny the divinity of the Son of God. Go and break God’s Sabbath weekly. Go and be nice and moral but dead of the Spirit of God.
Goodbye JW/PW enjoy the only heaven you will ever know that is of your own devisings. There is no other for you than the one you have created. I told this to Prudence once before. Now I tell it to you both.
Altheos
June 10th, 2007
5:21 pm
I see you used your righteous name for this post you have your law and your lawyer friends.
Yours is a valediction of a venomous vacillating viper.
Your messiah has shed no blood the consumation you boast of is an impotent form from a Vatican vasectomy vassel with no veracity.
June 10th, 2007
6:32 pm
Jim, you wrote: “You all seem to like to watch a person struggle. Wayne did try to help , the rest of you who never had children could not really understand.”
Just for the record, you are wrong. I never like to see a person struggle with their children.
At Castle Dome I begged you over and over again not to marry Prudence and bring children into this world.
Not because I had never had children, but because I had.
My sentimental love for them destroyed their souls just yours is doing.
June 10th, 2007
6:37 pm
typo
just “like” yours is doing.
June 10th, 2007
8:05 pm
just to let you little fairy people know that it was i that wrote the golly gaybreal comment and not anyone named j or p. have a rotten day, all my best ts
June 10th, 2007
8:17 pm
Callie
I shouldn’t speak in such absolutes
please forgive me , the reason I said that was directed toward bryan as he said something to the effect of that once to me.The struggle there was not just with my children, it was just magnified with them.
Sentiment is not half the killer as living under the letter of the law and all that was added to it there. Can you imagine trying to live with children in a community where it was wrong to “bring them into this world” they are looked upon as a curse (not by everyone at all times)but in general the spirit of the group there was against them and they could do nothing to be accepted they were “unruly” to that and because of that critical spirit.
You know that you have to skip over 2Corinthians chapter 3 and all of Galatians to hold onto what you believe there.The vail that was rent in two you have stiched back together.I think that veil is upon the heart of the people.
They can throw stones at Jehovah’s witnesses but I tell you the truth and I lie not that they have a liberty a joy and a love for the engrafted Word of God that I have NEVER seen among the stone throwers there. You have the sabbath day but they enjoy the Sabbath rest.
June 10th, 2007
9:28 pm
ts (now I wonder who that could be?) said “have a rotten day, all my best ts”
Whoever it is, it sounds plain enough that a rotten day is all they have to offer because that is the best they have, every day.
James said, “You have the sabbath day but they enjoy the Sabbath rest.”
Are you enjoying the Sabbath rest, James?
June 10th, 2007
10:32 pm
TB
why would you ask prince, so you can rend me with your answer.You and gab might as well get out your prophetic crystal ball since you are going to make up an answer anyway.
You must be the humble spirit that Bryan spoke of. You might do well to look up what Ellen White said true humility is.
If I remember right she said it was following the Word of God.
(ALL of it) that is the rest that I enjoy.
June 10th, 2007
11:40 pm
Oh, Jim, “All of it?”
It seems that I read in the Word of God somewhere, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” Does the JW bible have that verse in it, or do you just not consider me your neighbor, so a false witness is okay against me. It is in the Ten Commandments. I taught you about that verse here. Perhaps you may check that. I know that the JWs threw out the fourth commandment, but did they throw out this one too? But my Bible has that in it. You publicly bore false witness against me. Is this the kind of “ALL of it” that you refer to, meaning, all of it that you care to follow, or kinda all of it?
You think you follow “All of it” but you have left the Spirit out altogether. The Spirit always tells the truth, and this I have done with you from the beginning and God is my Witness. Until you tell the truth, especially about yourself, and until you keep the weightier matters of the law such as justice, mercy, and faith, you will NEVER be a keeper of any kind of Sabbath.
June 11th, 2007
12:24 am
James said, “why would you ask prince, so you can rend me with your answer.”
I’m asking so that you may have an opportunity to speak the truth.
James said, “You and gab might as well get out your prophetic crystal ball since you are going to make up an answer anyway.”
How do you know that?
James said, “You must be the humble spirit that Bryan spoke of.”
If that’s what you want to believe, then so be it. I have nothing to convince you of.
James said, “You might do well to look up what Ellen White said true humility is. If I remember right she said it was following the Word of God. (ALL of it)”
Why would you regard the writings of Ellen White when she didn’t regard the JWs as being a movement of God?
James said, “that is the rest that I enjoy.”
With all due respect James, I didn’t ask you to define the rest that you enjoy, I simply asked if you enjoyed THE Sabbath rest. Granted that this a yes, I must ask, considering that you have already admitted on this thread that you have lied to yourself in the past, and that there are a significant number of witnesses that could testify that you have not only lied to Michael, but have also lied about Him: Why should anyone on this planet believe a word you say? Who haven’t you lied to?
p.s. Thank you for calling me prince. It is a blessed reminder of the fulfillment of what has been written, “And the people (Travessers) of the prince that shall come (Michael) shall destroy the city (Viceland) and the sanctuary (the religions that deny the appearing of Michael); and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war (on this thread) desolations (non-marriage to God) are determined.”
And So It Is.
June 11th, 2007
1:45 am
Yes, Jim, the “rest” you witness; the “liberty” you have seen; and the “joy” you say comes with the “engrafted word” can be found in any self-deluded fraternity or Moose Lodge anywhere in the world – even without the liquor added to the mix. There is truly a “rest” the world offers, and it comes from agreement with it and its principles, regardless of the religion (or superstition) to which one subscribes.
And, yes, the same kinds of “feelings” can be found here in Travesser, but they are not criteria or the foundation of our faith. There have been hard things to bear here, as it is revealed to a person who they really are in their own, natural man. Hard, but not unbearable. But you, Jim, refused to bear things that revealed yourSELF to you. Of course none of that “feels” good. It often “feels” terrible, but do you think we here are a bunch of masochists? That we just like feeling bad about ourselves? No, but to be God’s child does take courage, which He also gives. However, to those like you who strangle themselves with their own emotional addictions, you become cowards and cannot bear the self-revelation it takes to become a Son of God. THAT is the Cross, Jim, and you have forsaken it, and the One crucified on it.
As I mentioned previously, yours is a religion of the flesh, without a cross (or “torture stake” if you prefer). I too once experienced those so-called blessings you listed with Jehovah’s Witnesses when I was with them, and truly it did take a while to realize that those things are as counterfeit as your profession. They were simply the results of “feeling” accepted, “feeling” loved – something anyone can get at any singles bar in the country on any Saturday night, in the Church of Jose Cuervo.
An anthropologist was once said that a dog is the only animal that can be bribed with affection. You proved him wrong, Jim. You’ve sold your soul on a cheap market, and to the lowest bidder.
June 11th, 2007
1:48 am
Great Tim maybe you are next in line for the concubines in the land where you go all the way with god and then he won’t admit to it.dress in white for next halloween and put a sheet over your swollen head and you can pose as a DUM DUM SUCKER.
June 11th, 2007
2:11 am
Gab arent you so glad that you have graduated from the flesh and settled in so powerfully in the realm of the intellect.More power to you but don’t miss the boat as you are charting the waters.
June 11th, 2007
2:13 am
Jim, I want to address your statement about living under the letter of the law, and your implication that this is what is done here. There is something I’ve noticed with everyone who has been with us and then left with offence. I don’t know of any exceptions to this. You say you have seen that you lived under the letter of the law while here, under a yoke that you did not really want, a yoke of bondage. You were glad to get out from under it. I am sure that is true.
The part you will not see is that this church, or Wayne, or Michael, was not the one who has ever put anyone under that oppression. Those who lived under that heavy yoke, put themselves under it, and then imagined that everyone else was under the same yoke, and blamed the church for putting on them. I myself have found myself crippled under the burden of “the law.” I know all about it. The difference is that I came to see that my own proud heart, my own offence and resistance toward God, is what put me under that yoke, and no one “out there” put it on me. Not Wayne, not Michael, not the church, not Mr. Bush, no, not even the devil.
On the other hand, those who have left offended, have imagined and then accused the whole church, or Wayne or Michael, for putting that detestable yoke on them.
Well, Jim, I will tell you, the cross is truly a detestable yoke to the natural man. There is nothing different between you and me or any one of us in feeling this. The difference is that some spoke the truth in their heart, bowed low at the feet of the Almighty, and said “I did it.” Others lied to themselves and said “They did it,” or “he did it,” and left offended, with a story about the church being to blame.
You could not realize that there were others here who were not like you, but were here because the Spirit inside of us was the exact same Spirit that led the church, and so being here was but the carrying out of our own impulses. What was here was what was INSIDE of us, and there was nowhere else we would want to be. But you can only imagine and accuse that others wore the heavy, cruel yoke that you wore, and blame an outside source for putting it on them, too.
Another point, Jim. Disobedience is a curse, not children. Children here have always been loved and cherished by the Spirit that ruled here, and by those who had that Spirit. And, disobedience and parental responsibility was always adressed, that the people might be healed. Some let that be. Others went away sorrowful (offended), because they had great possessions (their pride).
June 11th, 2007
2:15 am
James, you said:
“Can you imagine trying to live with children in a community where it was wrong to “bring them into this world” they are looked upon as a curse (not by everyone at all times)but in general the spirit of the group there was against them and they could do nothing to be accepted they were “unruly” to that and because of that critical spirit.”
The truth is that all of the parents and children were looked upon with pity, and compassion, and were offered help from heaven to alleviate
the special problems they faced.
The other families saw the blessing in Father’s counsel and are now being greatly benefited?
Every person is given the opportunity to grow up or wallow.
You remember, Joseph was on his way to being spoiled rotten until a night on a slave caravan gave him his opportunity. Some time in prison was also helpful.
Another Pharoah was given many opportunities, but preferred the bottom of the sea.
One last thing:
My experience with the Watchtower people was back in about 1975. They wanted to study with me, but there was no common ground, since they deny the Divinity of Jesus
Christ. ultimately denying their sin and need of a Saviour. What a sad state indeed.
June 11th, 2007
2:25 am
James,
How would my participation in any of the things you mention provide an answer to the direct, honest questions that I, or anyone else here, have presented to you? We have answered everyone else’s questions (regardless as to whether you accept them as true). Why must you call people derogatory names in attempt to avoid being transparent and unashamed? You are unashamed, aren’t you? Do you really think the JWs would approve of your conduct, much less Jesus Christ?
And for the record, it has been the object of my entire life to go all the way with God. How about you?
June 11th, 2007
2:30 am
Well, Jim, did you run out of simply ignorant things to say, and now you must resort to pure stupidity?
Your response reeks of having taken writing lessons from Mr. Rational.
June 11th, 2007
3:42 am
yes , enough said
peace….
james
June 11th, 2007
4:01 am
For from the least of them even to the greatest of them, everyone is given to covetousness, to greed for unjust gain; and from the prophet even to the priest, everyone deals falsely. They have healed also the wound of the daughter of My people lightly and neglectfully, saying, Peace, peace, when there is no peace. Were they brought to shame because they had committed abominations, extremely disgusting and vile things? No, they were not at all ashamed, nor could they blush at their idolatry. Therefore they shall fall among those who fall; at the time that I punish them they shall be overthrown, says the Lord. Jeremiah 6:13-15
June 11th, 2007
4:09 am
Jim,
The “rent” vail would have no meaning at all to a people who do not believe in a Saviour. Do you realize how
confusing your statements are?
What Word do they engraft?
How does one build a building without the Foundation? That was my question in 1975. There was no answer then and
if you believe their doctrine, I ask the same to you now.
How do you build a Christian character without Christ/Michael, in you. You know the song: Come into my heart Lord Jesus. Come in today, come in to stay.
The social gospel is all they have, just like the Catholics, Mormons, etc. etc. The husk, without the kernel. Man’s made up doctrines, instead of the Truth, as it is in Jesus/Michael.
“In vain do they worship Me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.” is just as true today as it was the first time it was said.
June 11th, 2007
6:14 am
pffffffhhhppppppp!!!!!!! get real , stupid!
June 11th, 2007
2:15 pm
Get real, stupid! Now there’s a real display of Christian character. How could anyone miss it?
June 13th, 2007
3:22 am
“In the first book of the Bible, Guinessis, God got tired of creating the world, so He took the Sabbath off. Adam and Eve were created from an apple tree. Noah’s wife was called Joan of Ark. Noah built an ark, which the animals came on to in pears. Lot’s wife was a pillar of salt by day, but a ball of fire by night.”
June 13th, 2007
3:23 am
“Moses led the Hebrews to the Red Sea, where they made unleavened bread, which is bread made without any ingredients. The Egyptians were all drowned in the dessert. Afterwards, Moses went up on Mount Cyanide to get the Ten Amendments. The First Commandment was when Eve told Adam to eat the apple. The Fifth Commandment is to humor thy father and mother. The Seventh Commandment is thou shalt not admit adultery.”
(like that last one, eh benders?)
June 13th, 2007
3:24 am
“When Mary heard that she was the mother of Jesus, she sang the Magna Carta. When the three wise guys from the east side arrived, they found Jesus in the manager. Jesus was born because Mary had an immaculate contraption. St. John, the Blacksmith, dumped water on his head.”
June 13th, 2007
3:25 am
“Jesus enunciated the Golden Rule, which says to do one to others before they do one to you. He also explained, ‘Man doth not live by sweat alone.’ It was a miracle when Jesus rose from the dead and managed to get the tomb stone off the entrance.”
June 13th, 2007
3:25 am
“St. Paul cavorted to Christianity. He preached holy acrimony, which is another name for marriage. A Christian should have only one spouse. This is called monotony.”
June 13th, 2007
3:38 am
timmy benjamin: statistics show that 87% of people who attempt suicide are religious. statistics also show that you’re a cunt.
June 13th, 2007
3:47 am
bent quotes the bible AGAIN (ad fucking nauseam) “There is nothing covered that will not be uncovered,” and then says, “What you failed to see, is that you have not exposed me, but yourselves. You only thought that you were exposing me.”
wow, good thing god almighty had a vice magazine forum so he could find out how rotten we all are. i thought the omnipotent omnipresent thing would’ve taken care of that. pathetic “reasoning” from a diseased mind. pathetic that this is the best some bargain basement jesus can come up with and still he has (a few) followers who think he’s divine. sad.
June 13th, 2007
6:35 am
I think a good name for their religon would be …date rape church
They all have have “arrived” according to their own testimony.
And unleash their frustrations on anybody who chooses to leave.Or anybody who stands up against their craft.
I thought Jesus said there were “none good but one”But I guess there might be a few “nice” ones.
could also be called the michael mouse club everybody there can’t possibly fall for this rerun.
June 14th, 2007
5:47 am
oh jeeeeeezus! the jezusfreeks haven’t posted for a couple of days. have the done the deed? kool aid down the hatch? hop that comet tail in a blaze of gunfire? so much for the shit piling contest. and i just took a laxative, too. maybe they got bent! har!
June 14th, 2007
5:50 am
gay-briel. such a purty name. bet you got a purty mouth. put one some (arch)angel wings over your leotard, boy. we gonna teach you howta make 14 bucks the hard way.
June 16th, 2007
3:18 am
donniedavies.com
for my money, a way better cult leader. donnie just wants to spread the love, not pork your children. think about it, benders.
June 16th, 2007
3:20 am
hmmmmm …
either bent ordered his sheep to stop posting, or they killed themselves, or they’re too dumb to find this blog now that it’s been taken off the main page and archived. too bad for us. that was the best entertainment i’ve had in years. come on, vice. do another article on bent so we can have some more fun! jeezusfreeks, jeezusfreeks, furry little jeezusfreeks …
June 16th, 2007
6:21 pm
it could be time for National Geographic to do a documentary…
June 16th, 2007
6:35 pm
Here is a reply to Jeff Bent and Milton Bernheisel. You can see your letters at this address:
http://travesser.info/
June 16th, 2007
8:50 pm
You people with Wayne Bent (or as he calls himself, michael) are a bunch of deceived souls. If you think Wayne is going to get you anywhere but this earth you are greatly deceived! When Jesus was here He said, “If anyone eat my flesh and drink my blood…” it was SYMBOLIC (hello). Wayne says, “If anyone does not receive my seed…” he is talking in the FLESH for he does it in the FLESH. Jesus never made anyone drink his blood in the flesh only symbolic. Open your eyes everyone and see what Wayne is really doing here or are you afraid to question anything he does. If you question him he condemns you. Jesus respected those who questioned him and told them they should search to know the truth. But Wayne does not want you to search for truth or talk to anyone else who does or you might come up with the truth. That’s right isn’t it Wayne. You want to know what the truth is? I will tell you. Wayne started the LOR church to be able to have access to children. Remember when they used to have children’s training? Well, Wayne got to the children just like he planned. It went on for some time with Sandy (his wife) and Milton. Then they decided to stop. I guess they had enough or were afraid they were going to get caught. They told the children if they told that something terrible would happen to them. Did you also know that Wayne was a pedophile before he started the LOR church. He got caught but not prosecuted so he figured out a way to start his own church so he could continue his sick behavior with children and no one could get rid of him. Especially if he was the leader that everyone trusted. Now he is still molesting children and everyone is watching and agreeing with it. Can you believe he has come this far that people put that much trust in a sick man. you are all a bunch of sick people. OPEN your EYES and use your brains that God gave you. Study your Bibles , you seem to use verses from the Bible so why not read the WHOLE thing and see what the truth REALLY is. When the law gets to Wayne then what are you going to do. Say poor Jesus the world took him, (more like, the pedophile finally got caught) maybe the children will finally stand up and turn him in and stop believing his threats. Wayne, you are a SICK man and you need brought to judgment just like you say everyone else needs.
June 16th, 2007
8:50 pm
You people with Wayne Bent (or as he calls himself, michael) are a bunch of deceived souls. If you think Wayne is going to get you anywhere but this earth you are greatly deceived! When Jesus was here He said, “If anyone eat my flesh and drink my blood…” it was SYMBOLIC (hello). Wayne says, “If anyone does not receive my seed…” he is talking in the FLESH for he does it in the FLESH. Jesus never made anyone drink his blood in the flesh only symbolic. Open your eyes everyone and see what Wayne is really doing here or are you afraid to question anything he does. If you question him he condemns you. Jesus respected those who questioned him and told them they should search to know the truth. But Wayne does not want you to search for truth or talk to anyone else who does or you might come up with the truth. That’s right isn’t it Wayne. You want to know what the truth is? I will tell you. Wayne started the LOR church to be able to have access to children. Remember when they used to have children’s training? Well, Wayne got to the children just like he planned. It went on for some time with Sandy (his wife) and Milton. Then they decided to stop. I guess they had enough or were afraid they were going to get caught. They told the children if they told that something terrible would happen to them. Did you also know that Wayne was a pedophile before he started the LOR church. He got caught but not prosecuted so he figured out a way to start his own church so he could continue his sick behavior with children and no one could get rid of him. Especially if he was the leader that everyone trusted. Now he is still molesting children and everyone is watching and agreeing with it. Can you believe he has come this far that people put that much trust in a sick man. you are all a bunch of sick people. OPEN your EYES and use your brains that God gave you. Study your Bibles , you seem to use verses from the Bible so why not read the WHOLE thing and see what the truth REALLY is. When the law gets to Wayne then what are you going to do. Say poor Jesus the world took him, (more like, the pedophile finally got caught) maybe the children will finally stand up and turn him in and stop believing his threats. Wayne, you are a SICK man and you need brought to judgment just like you say everyone else needs.
June 16th, 2007
8:50 pm
You people with Wayne Bent (or as he calls himself, michael) are a bunch of deceived souls. If you think Wayne is going to get you anywhere but this earth you are greatly deceived! When Jesus was here He said, “If anyone eat my flesh and drink my blood…” it was SYMBOLIC (hello). Wayne says, “If anyone does not receive my seed…” he is talking in the FLESH for he does it in the FLESH. Jesus never made anyone drink his blood in the flesh only symbolic. Open your eyes everyone and see what Wayne is really doing here or are you afraid to question anything he does. If you question him he condemns you. Jesus respected those who questioned him and told them they should search to know the truth. But Wayne does not want you to search for truth or talk to anyone else who does or you might come up with the truth. That’s right isn’t it Wayne. You want to know what the truth is? I will tell you. Wayne started the LOR church to be able to have access to children. Remember when they used to have children’s training? Well, Wayne got to the children just like he planned. It went on for some time with Sandy (his wife) and Milton. Then they decided to stop. I guess they had enough or were afraid they were going to get caught. They told the children if they told that something terrible would happen to them. Did you also know that Wayne was a pedophile before he started the LOR church. He got caught but not prosecuted so he figured out a way to start his own church so he could continue his sick behavior with children and no one could get rid of him. Especially if he was the leader that everyone trusted. Now he is still molesting children and everyone is watching and agreeing with it. Can you believe he has come this far that people put that much trust in a sick man. you are all a bunch of sick people. OPEN your EYES and use your brains that God gave you. Study your Bibles , you seem to use verses from the Bible so why not read the WHOLE thing and see what the truth REALLY is. When the law gets to Wayne then what are you going to do. Say poor Jesus the world took him, (more like, the pedophile finally got caught) maybe the children will finally stand up and turn him in and stop believing his threats. Wayne, you are a SICK man and you need brought to judgment just like you say everyone else needs.
June 16th, 2007
8:50 pm
You people with Wayne Bent (or as he calls himself, michael) are a bunch of deceived souls. If you think Wayne is going to get you anywhere but this earth you are greatly deceived! When Jesus was here He said, “If anyone eat my flesh and drink my blood…” it was SYMBOLIC (hello). Wayne says, “If anyone does not receive my seed…” he is talking in the FLESH for he does it in the FLESH. Jesus never made anyone drink his blood in the flesh only symbolic. Open your eyes everyone and see what Wayne is really doing here or are you afraid to question anything he does. If you question him he condemns you. Jesus respected those who questioned him and told them they should search to know the truth. But Wayne does not want you to search for truth or talk to anyone else who does or you might come up with the truth. That’s right isn’t it Wayne. You want to know what the truth is? I will tell you. Wayne started the LOR church to be able to have access to children. Remember when they used to have children’s training? Well, Wayne got to the children just like he planned. It went on for some time with Sandy (his wife) and Milton. Then they decided to stop. I guess they had enough or were afraid they were going to get caught. They told the children if they told that something terrible would happen to them. Did you also know that Wayne was a pedophile before he started the LOR church. He got caught but not prosecuted so he figured out a way to start his own church so he could continue his sick behavior with children and no one could get rid of him. Especially if he was the leader that everyone trusted. Now he is still molesting children and everyone is watching and agreeing with it. Can you believe he has come this far that people put that much trust in a sick man. you are all a bunch of sick people. OPEN your EYES and use your brains that God gave you. Study your Bibles , you seem to use verses from the Bible so why not read the WHOLE thing and see what the truth REALLY is. When the law gets to Wayne then what are you going to do. Say poor Jesus the world took him, (more like, the pedophile finally got caught) maybe the children will finally stand up and turn him in and stop believing his threats. Wayne, you are a SICK man and you need brought to judgment just like you say everyone else needs.
June 16th, 2007
8:50 pm
You people with Wayne Bent (or as he calls himself, michael) are a bunch of deceived souls. If you think Wayne is going to get you anywhere but this earth you are greatly deceived! When Jesus was here He said, “If anyone eat my flesh and drink my blood…” it was SYMBOLIC (hello). Wayne says, “If anyone does not receive my seed…” he is talking in the FLESH for he does it in the FLESH. Jesus never made anyone drink his blood in the flesh only symbolic. Open your eyes everyone and see what Wayne is really doing here or are you afraid to question anything he does. If you question him he condemns you. Jesus respected those who questioned him and told them they should search to know the truth. But Wayne does not want you to search for truth or talk to anyone else who does or you might come up with the truth. That’s right isn’t it Wayne. You want to know what the truth is? I will tell you. Wayne started the LOR church to be able to have access to children. Remember when they used to have children’s training? Well, Wayne got to the children just like he planned. It went on for some time with Sandy (his wife) and Milton. Then they decided to stop. I guess they had enough or were afraid they were going to get caught. They told the children if they told that something terrible would happen to them. Did you also know that Wayne was a pedophile before he started the LOR church. He got caught but not prosecuted so he figured out a way to start his own church so he could continue his sick behavior with children and no one could get rid of him. Especially if he was the leader that everyone trusted. Now he is still molesting children and everyone is watching and agreeing with it. Can you believe he has come this far that people put that much trust in a sick man. you are all a bunch of sick people. OPEN your EYES and use your brains that God gave you. Study your Bibles , you seem to use verses from the Bible so why not read the WHOLE thing and see what the truth REALLY is. When the law gets to Wayne then what are you going to do. Say poor Jesus the world took him, (more like, the pedophile finally got caught) maybe the children will finally stand up and turn him in and stop believing his threats. Wayne, you are a SICK man and you need brought to judgment just like you say everyone else needs.
June 16th, 2007
8:50 pm
You people with Wayne Bent (or as he calls himself, michael) are a bunch of deceived souls. If you think Wayne is going to get you anywhere but this earth you are greatly deceived! When Jesus was here He said, “If anyone eat my flesh and drink my blood…” it was SYMBOLIC (hello). Wayne says, “If anyone does not receive my seed…” he is talking in the FLESH for he does it in the FLESH. Jesus never made anyone drink his blood in the flesh only symbolic. Open your eyes everyone and see what Wayne is really doing here or are you afraid to question anything he does. If you question him he condemns you. Jesus respected those who questioned him and told them they should search to know the truth. But Wayne does not want you to search for truth or talk to anyone else who does or you might come up with the truth. That’s right isn’t it Wayne. You want to know what the truth is? I will tell you. Wayne started the LOR church to be able to have access to children. Remember when they used to have children’s training? Well, Wayne got to the children just like he planned. It went on for some time with Sandy (his wife) and Milton. Then they decided to stop. I guess they had enough or were afraid they were going to get caught. They told the children if they told that something terrible would happen to them. Did you also know that Wayne was a pedophile before he started the LOR church. He got caught but not prosecuted so he figured out a way to start his own church so he could continue his sick behavior with children and no one could get rid of him. Especially if he was the leader that everyone trusted. Now he is still molesting children and everyone is watching and agreeing with it. Can you believe he has come this far that people put that much trust in a sick man. you are all a bunch of sick people. OPEN your EYES and use your brains that God gave you. Study your Bibles , you seem to use verses from the Bible so why not read the WHOLE thing and see what the truth REALLY is. When the law gets to Wayne then what are you going to do. Say poor Jesus the world took him, (more like, the pedophile finally got caught) maybe the children will finally stand up and turn him in and stop believing his threats. Wayne, you are a SICK man and you need brought to judgment just like you say everyone else needs.
June 16th, 2007
8:57 pm
I didn’t tell you on this site what Wayne did in detail because he will deny it and I want to tell the police so he can’t come up with a lie. It’s pretty sick sex stuff.
June 16th, 2007
8:57 pm
I didn’t tell you on this site what Wayne did in detail because he will deny it and I want to tell the police so he can’t come up with a lie. It’s pretty sick sex stuff.
June 16th, 2007
8:57 pm
I didn’t tell you on this site what Wayne did in detail because he will deny it and I want to tell the police so he can’t come up with a lie. It’s pretty sick sex stuff.
June 16th, 2007
8:57 pm
I didn’t tell you on this site what Wayne did in detail because he will deny it and I want to tell the police so he can’t come up with a lie. It’s pretty sick sex stuff.
June 16th, 2007
8:57 pm
I didn’t tell you on this site what Wayne did in detail because he will deny it and I want to tell the police so he can’t come up with a lie. It’s pretty sick sex stuff.
June 16th, 2007
8:57 pm
I didn’t tell you on this site what Wayne did in detail because he will deny it and I want to tell the police so he can’t come up with a lie. It’s pretty sick sex stuff.
June 16th, 2007
8:59 pm
I have kept quiet long enough!!!!!!!
June 16th, 2007
8:59 pm
I have kept quiet long enough!!!!!!!
June 16th, 2007
8:59 pm
I have kept quiet long enough!!!!!!!
June 16th, 2007
8:59 pm
I have kept quiet long enough!!!!!!!
June 16th, 2007
8:59 pm
I have kept quiet long enough!!!!!!!
June 16th, 2007
8:59 pm
I have kept quiet long enough!!!!!!!
June 17th, 2007
1:19 am
To: Sick of Wayne’s perversion
That’s very interesting what you said. About 6 months ago a situation came back to my mind.
Early in the church history, long time ago, I was at a meeting, and a certain woman came to me upset and said that she had heard a rumor that Wayne was a pedophile. At that time, I just blew it off as a no- account rumor and went on. Like I said that memory came back to me about 6 months ago and I wondered if there was any validity to it as I’ve tried to piece things together.
June 17th, 2007
1:34 am
Oh my God. I was in this cult. I cant believe he is such an asshole to sleep with his sons wife. I was in this cult about 15 years ago and I knew it was bad then. He is ten times as bad now. Wayne, if you are reading this (HOW COULD YOU?) You have killed one person and now you wanna kill another? One day you’ll kill them all I’m sure. Ive been saying it for years. I cant believe you are sleeping with the girls I knew like Bethany, Oh ya “and her mother” You sick fuck. You are EVIL EVIL EVIL. I feel very sorry for the people still in there that think you are god. You have screwed them up so bad that even if they did get out they would have terrible lives. No wonder they wanna just die instead of going to the doctor when they have problems. Keep them confused asshole. One day someones going to take your life. Not that its worth much anyways. If your god then why don’t you heal them? I’ll be back.
June 17th, 2007
8:24 am
right on! real life diddled by bent kids! go to the cops, tell them everything you know. only you can stop bent from molesting more children.
oh, bent’s website is back online: http://strongcity.info/
didn’t that douchebag say that “the world would never hear from him again,” and then supposedly close the website “forever,” to await the fucking rapture? i see from the website that it is indeed oct 31st (midnight new mexico time, i guess? or jerusalem time?) so we can indeed start pissing ourselves on nov 1st when no horesemen ride through the sky raining down locusts and fiery balls of shit upon the earth. diddle those kids while you still can, bent! the end of your charade is nigh. what will you do when nothing happens? kool aid?
June 18th, 2007
12:25 am
mr. rational
the return of their boomerang has come their manhunt has come to reveal that they are the man.Like king saul of old they have taken their own life , they did not practice the law that they preached.
June 18th, 2007
5:03 am
tell me more! was it kool aid? ride a comet off into the ether? bradley tanks belching flames into the compound of love? sarin gas in the mainline? i’m dying (har) to know!
June 21st, 2007
1:16 am
Behold Your Judgment comes Quickly!
June 21st, 2007
3:33 am
behold!
there’s no longer any need to come quickly! try the little blue pill! you strong city sodomites can prolong the pleasure of kiddie diddling for hours and chafing hours with viagra! now you can hump children to your heart’s content without the awkward ‘i came to quick cuz i’m emotionally unstable’ conversation. don’t say i never did anything for ya, jeezusfreeks!
ps. don’t feel bad, tight kiddie pussy makes me cum quick too!
June 21st, 2007
5:57 am
On another subject…why not call “strong city ” … “wrong city” instead.
No one can defend wayne better than he himself , a false teacher (anti christ) Sure he will say everything is a lie that was said about him. And all of his followers who would be honest to stand up and admit that wayne (michael) has lied.As I said early on on this “blog” one will lie and the others will swear to it. If you didn’t space your words right they would call it a lie but wayne can do ANYTHING say ANYTHING right or wrong and the group just nod their heads in unison.
WKY ???…because of self interested fear.They have been “right” for so long that anything goes now. They can slam Prudence but she is one who would always speak what she saw and wouldnt try to look good just because “michael” might find out. Even Jeff has qrestioned his dad a couple of times and eventually was wore down to agreement, It is not a pretty thing to disagree with waynes “authority” there.Unless you are honest enough to walk out of the place and never come back. It is nice and beautiful there and quiet … very remote ,very clean. Friendly , very spiritual. but underneath it all there is a heavyness.Wayne is in charge it is his property and he is the final word. Are you going to correct “GOD’S” son (god in the flesh) as they view it,What if GOD revealed to someone there something different than the direction that wayne is going? (This man thinks he can read the heart of all others) .Then they would have to leave all their “social security” and go back to , rent bills , neighbors(you know how us neighbors can be) job’s etc….
Quite a cost to bear especially when some of the group have been following wayne for over twenty years.With all that investment I would say not one in a hundred would walk away. The path out of their is a narrow one and few there be that would be willing to take it.
June 22nd, 2007
2:29 am
JESUS FREAKS ON WELFARE!!! man, this bunch of losers sounds more and more pathetic every time you hear something new about them. can’t wait for the michael jackson meets charlie manson messianic kiddie diddler trial of the century!
June 22nd, 2007
4:14 am
http://travesser.info/
some personal “testimony” from the group ….. and replys to to their comments….
June 22nd, 2007
6:16 am
yeah, i read some of that. sounds like ol’ bent is one crazy sex fiend control freak god squad arsehole, eh?
June 22nd, 2007
6:24 am
this bent utterance got me particularly HOT!
The Vision
I have been contacted by a number of people regarding the vision that I enquired about in an e-mail. Some said that I would have intimate sexual relations with the seven messengers. Some thought the vision concerned others. But I say unto you, every person must have sexual intercourse with me, or they will have no life in them. My Seed is the only life, for my Seed is life indeed, and my flesh is meat. Anyone who does not receive of my Seed, will be left desolate.
in fact, i think i’ll go have a wank right now! thanks for the boner, wayner! ooh, my wayner is never waning! the meat flesh of life is cumming!
June 23rd, 2007
6:25 am
Behold I come quickly!
June 26th, 2007
5:57 am
i guess it’s good that you cum quick when you’re molesting children - gets the horror of it over sooner for the poor kid.
June 27th, 2007
3:56 am
Well done. Thanks much!
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http://findproducthere.info/casiowatch/page=1.html
http://findproducthere.info/casiowatch/page=4.html
http://findproducthere.info/casiowatch/index.html
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June 27th, 2007
5:18 pm
This site has been updated.
http://michaeltravesser.info
June 28th, 2007
5:44 am
tick … tick … tick … KOOL AID!
August 21st, 2007
8:53 pm
What is THE TRUTH!
A dogma, in order to end this discussion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/progs/06/panorama/nb/wm/video/01oct_nb.asx
(or press the link on my name)
However, most roman catholic priests being pedophiles, taking children younger than 10 years old, we are talking reality here, is what this BBC documentary is about.
Roman Catholics support pedophiles, but Roman Catholics do NOT support Michael Travesser. So unneeded proof here, that Michael Travesser is not a Pedophile!
Well, whatever.
secret rapture IS MY KING!
I have read many writings by Prince Michael, and he is a normal man. That a normal man, has got anything to do with Jesus Christ, or the Prophet Mohammed for that sake, is a miracle…
(Prophet Mohammed had 7 wives, not virgins but wives)
Well.
Best website I advise for learning history for Cabotians is here:
http://www.reformation.org/index.html
I would still believe Michael Travesser, if he would put hardcore pron there…
http://www.pronshare.com/
DEATH TO THE HYPOCRITES!
August 22nd, 2007
1:04 am
Hmmmm.
I’ve read the whole page now.
Some book, full of papist hate towards the Spirit of Cabotia.
While bored soldiers accuse my Prince of Pedophile behaviour, what he denies. Just like Osama Bin Laden denied to be the perpetrator of the 9/11 bombing.
There are 1.4 BILLION Roman Catholics, not all Cabotians (watch the south!), having REAL PEDOPHILES in office.
Than some disturbing facts Alex Jones describes
http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1224804
thinks these rapes and hypocrite killings are done by Illuminati, Alumbrados, THE REAL ENEMIE!
Alex Jones doesn’t even understand what Opus Dei is?
You people have to work together; Pedophile rape, by people you call christians, is done a lot. The BBC documentary is only a tip of more things done by Roman Catholics and Counter Reformed Christianity (=papism)…
It seems impossible, because you think Jesus Christ would be more important than Spartacus washing His feet:
6000 slaves where killed by Rome in this horrible manner, some centuries before Jesus Christ was born. Not Only That - Crusifixion was a normal torture for every one that did not commit to Rome.
Than G. sents his Son to help out. Son gets cruxified, while being a holy man, a shaman, a yogi, so people wake up. Rome gets defeated by the preachers.
Eric the Red = Red Race
Same thing happened during Reformation, 1500~1600 AC. Preachers prepared the wars, to defeat THE VICAR OF CHRIST. What is blasphemy: A brave Cabotian, like Prince Michael was, that gives the chance to come to turns, or division in churches!
Cruxifiction was then called: Holy Inquisition.
Jeanne D’Arc was killed like that. By the Roman Catholics. That later declared her Holy, for hiding the fact they killed her in a terrible manner.
Sounds like “IRAQ HAS WEAPONS OFF MASS DESTRUCTION!” to me … a lie.
My name is Soldier of Truth.
Michael Travesser has my name and adress.
September 7th, 2007
6:10 am
what the fuck are you people on?
September 9th, 2007
12:37 am
W. Bent you are sick!!! What you are doing is Wrong…..as for your Gift to tell the Future/inturpit the bible…HOW meny times have you been wrong 15+ years what make this time any def. You just keep changing dates. *sigh* im glad i got out when i did; so i would not have been more brain washed then i was at the time. you yourself kicked out 2 of you own ministers for sleeping with each others wives in the ’80s but it is OK for you to LAY Naked with young girls tuching them & it is not a sin. At lest those minsters & their wives were consenting adults(ie what they did was not in the name of GOD).
Im glad not to be a folower of you or your god as your have perverted him. Hell im not even christion anymore. Ive chosen my one path to the holy ones that does not include following a man as so meny faiths do.
Im happy in my path & my panthon :)
so inclosing wyne bent/michael travesser..
May Loki stock your path, may Baba Yaga & Vidar avenge the women you have harmed, & Sheva inbrace you soon to the next cycle!!! SO MOTE IT BE!!!!
September 25th, 2007
7:09 am
“Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” (2Cor.11:14), so I guess Mr truly Bent is in for a hot surprise! It would be mercifull to give him a taste of prison as preparation.
December 12th, 2007
11:33 pm
This Michael guy is a PERVERT.
This Michael guy is SICK.
This Michael guy is NOT the son of God.
This Michael guy is MANIPULATIVE.
If you agree with the points above…then do the right thing…and simply copy and paste this post into your post.
December 13th, 2007
12:51 am
Christ you people get wound up something chronic. Entertaining stuff. Couldn’t give a rat’s ass myself, though. I do believe in God. I just think he’s an asshole. I’m going to hell but I get to drink heavily on a sunday morning. I highly recommend it.
December 13th, 2007
9:10 am
This Michael guy is a PERVERT.
This Michael guy is SICK.
This Michael guy is NOT the son of God.
This Michael guy is MANIPULATIVE.
If you agree with the points above…then do the right thing…and simply copy and paste this post into your post.
I watched a documentary about this fella on UK television last night and it made me sick to my stomach. They can do what they want - but it’s pathetic bringing children up there and then claiming the kids “chose” to be there. Moron. Hell let me repeat it again :@
This Michael guy is a PERVERT.
This Michael guy is SICK.
This Michael guy is NOT the son of God.
This Michael guy is MANIPULATIVE.
Hmph!
December 13th, 2007
11:30 am
Michael You sick fucking shit head..How the fuck can you play with girls..You pervet, and then you say the world will end on October 31st 2007. Woohoo!!!its nearly Cristmas…
December 14th, 2007
2:39 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Micaael remixes “Sexy Back”!!
Leaked lyrics below (with Michael singing):
Michael:
I’m bringing pervy back
All my dumb virgins don’t know how to act
they go nude so I can lick their back
Here’s the second cuming so lick it off my sack
Timbaland: Take em to the bridge!
Michael:
I’m a dirty pervvvvv
Look at the time it’s nearly Lent
Come on virgin lie in my tent
My name is Michael, and I’m truly BENT
Definately a smash hit record I think…
December 14th, 2007
2:39 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Micaael remixes “Sexy Back”!!
Leaked lyrics below (with Michael singing):
Michael:
I’m bringing pervy back
All my dumb virgins don’t know how to act
they go nude so I can lick their back
Here’s the second cuming so lick it off my sack
Timbaland: Take em to the bridge!
Michael:
I’m a dirty pervvvvv
Look at the time it’s nearly Lent
Come on virgin lie in my tent
My name is Michael, and I’m truly BENT
Definately a smash hit record I think…
December 14th, 2007
2:39 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Micaael remixes “Sexy Back”!!
Leaked lyrics below (with Michael singing):
Michael:
I’m bringing pervy back
All my dumb virgins don’t know how to act
they go nude so I can lick their back
Here’s the second cuming so lick it off my sack
Timbaland: Take em to the bridge!
Michael:
I’m a dirty pervvvvv
Look at the time it’s nearly Lent
Come on virgin lie in my tent
My name is Michael, and I’m truly BENT
Definately a smash hit record I think…
December 14th, 2007
2:39 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Micaael remixes “Sexy Back”!!
Leaked lyrics below (with Michael singing):
Michael:
I’m bringing pervy back
All my dumb virgins don’t know how to act
they go nude so I can lick their back
Here’s the second cuming so lick it off my sack
Timbaland: Take em to the bridge!
Michael:
I’m a dirty pervvvvv
Look at the time it’s nearly Lent
Come on virgin lie in my tent
My name is Michael, and I’m truly BENT
Definately a smash hit record I think…
December 14th, 2007
2:39 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Micaael remixes “Sexy Back”!!
Leaked lyrics below (with Michael singing):
Michael:
I’m bringing pervy back
All my dumb virgins don’t know how to act
they go nude so I can lick their back
Here’s the second cuming so lick it off my sack
Timbaland: Take em to the bridge!
Michael:
I’m a dirty pervvvvv
Look at the time it’s nearly Lent
Come on virgin lie in my tent
My name is Michael, and I’m truly BENT
Definately a smash hit record I think…
December 14th, 2007
2:39 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Micaael remixes “Sexy Back”!!
Leaked lyrics below (with Michael singing):
Michael:
I’m bringing pervy back
All my dumb virgins don’t know how to act
they go nude so I can lick their back
Here’s the second cuming so lick it off my sack
Timbaland: Take em to the bridge!
Michael:
I’m a dirty pervvvvv
Look at the time it’s nearly Lent
Come on virgin lie in my tent
My name is Michael, and I’m truly BENT
Definately a smash hit record I think…
December 15th, 2007
4:14 pm
The movie does seem interesting and truly it trashes me to a very great degree and makes me and the others here all look pretty stupid. If Ben Anthony had told our story the way we told it to him, it might have seemed more reasonable, but he lied on numerous occasions with his voice over, knowing very well he was lying. The end of the world was the biggest lie told. I, or we, NEVER predicted the end of the world on any date. He used his video lineup to make it appear that we did. The very last phone conversation on the video with my son, was edited to make it sound helpful to Ben’s lying. Jeff clearly laid out the issue, but Ben cut that all out of the film. Ben also recorded the phone call without Jeff knowing it. This is illegal in this country. The virgins told me also that Ben twisted their own testimony to look like they were talking about the end of the world.
Granted, we are a pretty strange bunch, but we are soft candy compared to the activities of your own governments. When we get “crazy” according to you, we do harmless things like believe something. When your governments get crazy millions die, as in Iraq and other places. Your society hurts people and puts millions in prison. Your society tortures people and takes them away from their families for years, without charges or even a trial. We have no prisons here. We have no wars, we have no fights, we have no offenses. Why could not one of your better movie makers, Ben Anthony, simply have told the truth?
When interviewing us, which was about 100 hours of taping, he used only 48 minutes. In the interview he told us he would tell our story. Later he told us that he would tell his story and not ours. I asked him if he ever lies. He told me that he does. I told him that his world just uses people for profit. He agreed. I told him that this was true for his movie also. Your world’s media, including channel 4, is all about lying. This is something we never do in our world. We simply tell the truth as it is, and we told Ben all the truth as it was. But he lied the whole time he was here, making sure we knew that he saw us as the “good people” of Strong City. Your world would not know the truth if it bit you in the face. Our world lives by it.
Yes, it was an entertaining movie, but it was not about us. It was only a movie concocted to sell to the public and make a few bucks, and the movie had our face put on it. Too bad. You might have been given the chance to know our story. That would have been more interesting still, but Ben Anthony hid that part. Hours of testimony by the Two Witnesses was entirely excluded. It sounded too normal. It made sense out of too many things, and Ben did not want reasonableness, he wanted a monster movie.
Another Web site by Prudence Welch is of the same type. Certain facts are used to obscure the story and she also states that we are predicting the end of the world for tonight. Nonsense! Your world has already ended.
December 16th, 2007
7:51 am
Wayne Bent is clearly delusional and is sucking 60 - 70 suckers down with him. Anyone that believes in the Bible knows that the Second Coming will not happen upon the dirt of this earth. Christ was here once as a man and when he comes again he won’t be touching this earth. Wayne Bent is a narcisist, mind control freak and feeds off of weak minded people…..It’s sad to see he can control so many minds. Clearly the work of a (Non-Christ)
December 16th, 2007
4:36 pm
Well Patsy, you seem to know so much about the Christ. His generation thought just what you think, against Jesus. Why do you think they crucified him? It was because they thought he was a narcissist using mind control to lead his fanatical followers. They thought he was a (non-Christ). They did not kill him because he was a nice guy. People don’t kill nice guys. They said he was devil possessed, just as you say of me. It is clear, you don’t know much about Jesus Christ, or you would know me.
December 16th, 2007
5:04 pm
I think Michael Trevasser is talkimng nonsense, and that the followers need help because they are clearly mentally feeble. Also that the idea of lying naked with him clearly came to the nubile young girls because this is how you beco0me more important in the cult- it is probably well known to each person there that he has ‘consummated’ his own son’s wife… This is no more than a silly bunch of irresponsible loons who need to understand that god doesn’t come in the shape of a man who wants to screw every woman he fancies- in fact that is a man using religion to satisfy his own need for control, power, domination and sex. If the children were mine, there is no way on earth he would get within 20 feet of them. So why are their parents so poor at their proper job? That is, being a good parent/grandparent because it is NEVER ok to let a geriatric fiddle with a naked girl (or boy)
December 16th, 2007
5:47 pm
Michael you are whacked out of your mind…..everything you say is twisted and warped. The people you are blindly leading down your wrong way road are nothing more then brain washed. For the men that have had their wives stolen from them in the name of the Lord in order for you to sleep with whomever you’ve chosen….You’ve stripped these men of all their dignity, self-esteem and sense of right and wrong. You are so wrong!!! Christ does not take wives from their husbands for himself. You’re a nut case and any of you Travesser followers should get out of there before your fearful leader goes off the deep end…who knows where he’ll take you and it won’t be to Heaven. How many times has he prepared you for the end of the world and the world continues to go on? Hello! Wake up! And for you that have had children that left and had enough of this guys misleadings…Hello! Get out! Get out while you can…Michael is being lead by some thing and it isn’t the Father up in Heaven. Shame on you Wayne, you are a wolf in sheeps clothing. You know that in the end where your deceit will lead you and your poor mindless flock.
December 16th, 2007
6:04 pm
Hey Michael, as you wrote to Patsy that if she knew the Lord, she would know you. You need to pray to your Father and ask him to take away your delusions. Jesus came to earth to save his people from their sins…..repent now. Jesus instructed the people of his day to beware of men posing as Christ. Jesus performed miracles and forgave even his own murderers…..Can you perform miracles? Obviously not. When is the end of the world? It’s coming and so is judgement day. You are not Jesus. You are just a man that is so very misdirected.
December 16th, 2007
8:18 pm
This is started up again! Well for Wayne’s information I have never said anything about what would happen on any date that he has talked about. because I don’t know. I know one of the members gave all their things to their neighbors right before October 31. I wonder what made them do that? I have simply put count downs for certain dates that Wayne has picked. I knew all along that NOTHING would happen on those dates. I also have “Testimonies” of his virgins on my site that I have not changed one word. You can find them at this link. http://www.travesser.info/site/info/pages/pages.php I have talked to a couple of people. Both people told me that they were told by people in your group that I had lied on my website. But when they asked those people if they had been on my website …. they said NO. Who told them I was lying? When asked where I lied, they can’t seem to answer that question. I know for a fact that Wayne didn’t want certain information out about your little naked experiences. People were sworn to not tell anyone. I guess that isn’t hiding is it? It is true physically anyone can leave when they want. But they are mentally tied down. I have experienced Wayne’s mind games. You have always given hints about what you want people to do. You have them trained to follow those hints perfectly. You know how to manipulate people to do what you want … than after they have done what you want you act so innocent about the whole situation. My own mother said that he has healed her. Mom (JOY) are you still dying of cancer?
You can say all the bad things you want about me. Look at your life. It doesn’t take too much looking to see you are human like everyone else.
December 16th, 2007
10:22 pm
No matter if there were a thousand, thousand witnesses to testify that Michael has done everything he did according to Father’s specific instructions, those who have another spirit will not hear it.
“For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” Matthew 7:2
The judgment you put upon Michael’s actions is the judgment you will certainly face yourself.
Have you ever followed an instruction that you knew was from God and yet have it appear as a disaster? This is what Michael did in perfect integrity.
What do you think it means to “lay down your life” for God? Doesn’t it mean that you don’t have a life of your own anymore as it is given over entirely to God for His purposes? Those of you who shrink from that possibility will never be able to comprehend the sacrifice Michael gave on behalf of even your own lost souls.
Would you allow the BBC to come into your home and film everything you said and did for three weeks straight? Would you be wiling to tell them everything that you did and thought and said in the last 7 years?
Think about it.
This is what Michael and those of Strong City who were interviewed did. The filmmakers took all that honesty and built an idol out of their own imaginations, leaving out completely the heart of Travesser.
The Son of God came the first time to buy back your right to enter heaven. He came a second time to ensure that it happen, to bring you to full salvation (an actual experience of deliverance from your poor cheap self and not just a profession of it). He only wants you to have the same relationship to God as He does. It took the crucifixion to get the point across in Jesus’ day…an utterly disgusting event in the eyes of “God’s chosen people”. This time, it took the Consummation to get Father’s point across about how He sees us in relation to Himself as the Husband, desiring us to be His Bride. Because of the degradation and self-indulgence now prevalent in the earth, this, too, appears as disgusting and absolutely outrageous to the “good” people who would never follow God’s commands to this degree.
“Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Him hath God exalted with His right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
And we are His witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.” Acts 5:29-32
December 16th, 2007
10:22 pm
No matter if there were a thousand, thousand witnesses to testify that Michael has done everything he did according to Father’s specific instructions, those who have another spirit will not hear it.
“For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” Matthew 7:2
The judgment you put upon Michael’s actions is the judgment you will certainly face yourself.
Have you ever followed an instruction that you knew was from God and yet have it appear as a disaster? This is what Michael did in perfect integrity.
What do you think it means to “lay down your life” for God? Doesn’t it mean that you don’t have a life of your own anymore as it is given over entirely to God for His purposes? Those of you who shrink from that possibility will never be able to comprehend the sacrifice Michael gave on behalf of even your own lost souls.
Would you allow the BBC to come into your home and film everything you said and did for three weeks straight? Would you be wiling to tell them everything that you did and thought and said in the last 7 years?
Think about it.
This is what Michael and those of Strong City who were interviewed did. The filmmakers took all that honesty and built an idol out of their own imaginations, leaving out completely the heart of Travesser.
The Son of God came the first time to buy back your right to enter heaven. He came a second time to ensure that it happen, to bring you to full salvation (an actual experience of deliverance from your poor cheap self and not just a profession of it). He only wants you to have the same relationship to God as He does. It took the crucifixion to get the point across in Jesus’ day…an utterly disgusting event in the eyes of “God’s chosen people”. This time, it took the Consummation to get Father’s point across about how He sees us in relation to Himself as the Husband, desiring us to be His Bride. Because of the degradation and self-indulgence now prevalent in the earth, this, too, appears as disgusting and absolutely outrageous to the “good” people who would never follow God’s commands to this degree.
“Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Him hath God exalted with His right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
And we are His witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.” Acts 5:29-32
December 16th, 2007
10:22 pm
No matter if there were a thousand, thousand witnesses to testify that Michael has done everything he did according to Father’s specific instructions, those who have another spirit will not hear it.
“For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” Matthew 7:2
The judgment you put upon Michael’s actions is the judgment you will certainly face yourself.
Have you ever followed an instruction that you knew was from God and yet have it appear as a disaster? This is what Michael did in perfect integrity.
What do you think it means to “lay down your life” for God? Doesn’t it mean that you don’t have a life of your own anymore as it is given over entirely to God for His purposes? Those of you who shrink from that possibility will never be able to comprehend the sacrifice Michael gave on behalf of even your own lost souls.
Would you allow the BBC to come into your home and film everything you said and did for three weeks straight? Would you be wiling to tell them everything that you did and thought and said in the last 7 years?
Think about it.
This is what Michael and those of Strong City who were interviewed did. The filmmakers took all that honesty and built an idol out of their own imaginations, leaving out completely the heart of Travesser.
The Son of God came the first time to buy back your right to enter heaven. He came a second time to ensure that it happen, to bring you to full salvation (an actual experience of deliverance from your poor cheap self and not just a profession of it). He only wants you to have the same relationship to God as He does. It took the crucifixion to get the point across in Jesus’ day…an utterly disgusting event in the eyes of “God’s chosen people”. This time, it took the Consummation to get Father’s point across about how He sees us in relation to Himself as the Husband, desiring us to be His Bride. Because of the degradation and self-indulgence now prevalent in the earth, this, too, appears as disgusting and absolutely outrageous to the “good” people who would never follow God’s commands to this degree.
“Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Him hath God exalted with His right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
And we are His witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.” Acts 5:29-32
December 16th, 2007
10:22 pm
No matter if there were a thousand, thousand witnesses to testify that Michael has done everything he did according to Father’s specific instructions, those who have another spirit will not hear it.
“For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” Matthew 7:2
The judgment you put upon Michael’s actions is the judgment you will certainly face yourself.
Have you ever followed an instruction that you knew was from God and yet have it appear as a disaster? This is what Michael did in perfect integrity.
What do you think it means to “lay down your life” for God? Doesn’t it mean that you don’t have a life of your own anymore as it is given over entirely to God for His purposes? Those of you who shrink from that possibility will never be able to comprehend the sacrifice Michael gave on behalf of even your own lost souls.
Would you allow the BBC to come into your home and film everything you said and did for three weeks straight? Would you be wiling to tell them everything that you did and thought and said in the last 7 years?
Think about it.
This is what Michael and those of Strong City who were interviewed did. The filmmakers took all that honesty and built an idol out of their own imaginations, leaving out completely the heart of Travesser.
The Son of God came the first time to buy back your right to enter heaven. He came a second time to ensure that it happen, to bring you to full salvation (an actual experience of deliverance from your poor cheap self and not just a profession of it). He only wants you to have the same relationship to God as He does. It took the crucifixion to get the point across in Jesus’ day…an utterly disgusting event in the eyes of “God’s chosen people”. This time, it took the Consummation to get Father’s point across about how He sees us in relation to Himself as the Husband, desiring us to be His Bride. Because of the degradation and self-indulgence now prevalent in the earth, this, too, appears as disgusting and absolutely outrageous to the “good” people who would never follow God’s commands to this degree.
“Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Him hath God exalted with His right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
And we are His witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.” Acts 5:29-32
December 16th, 2007
10:22 pm
No matter if there were a thousand, thousand witnesses to testify that Michael has done everything he did according to Father’s specific instructions, those who have another spirit will not hear it.
“For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” Matthew 7:2
The judgment you put upon Michael’s actions is the judgment you will certainly face yourself.
Have you ever followed an instruction that you knew was from God and yet have it appear as a disaster? This is what Michael did in perfect integrity.
What do you think it means to “lay down your life” for God? Doesn’t it mean that you don’t have a life of your own anymore as it is given over entirely to God for His purposes? Those of you who shrink from that possibility will never be able to comprehend the sacrifice Michael gave on behalf of even your own lost souls.
Would you allow the BBC to come into your home and film everything you said and did for three weeks straight? Would you be wiling to tell them everything that you did and thought and said in the last 7 years?
Think about it.
This is what Michael and those of Strong City who were interviewed did. The filmmakers took all that honesty and built an idol out of their own imaginations, leaving out completely the heart of Travesser.
The Son of God came the first time to buy back your right to enter heaven. He came a second time to ensure that it happen, to bring you to full salvation (an actual experience of deliverance from your poor cheap self and not just a profession of it). He only wants you to have the same relationship to God as He does. It took the crucifixion to get the point across in Jesus’ day…an utterly disgusting event in the eyes of “God’s chosen people”. This time, it took the Consummation to get Father’s point across about how He sees us in relation to Himself as the Husband, desiring us to be His Bride. Because of the degradation and self-indulgence now prevalent in the earth, this, too, appears as disgusting and absolutely outrageous to the “good” people who would never follow God’s commands to this degree.
“Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Him hath God exalted with His right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
And we are His witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.” Acts 5:29-32
December 16th, 2007
10:22 pm
No matter if there were a thousand, thousand witnesses to testify that Michael has done everything he did according to Father’s specific instructions, those who have another spirit will not hear it.
“For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” Matthew 7:2
The judgment you put upon Michael’s actions is the judgment you will certainly face yourself.
Have you ever followed an instruction that you knew was from God and yet have it appear as a disaster? This is what Michael did in perfect integrity.
What do you think it means to “lay down your life” for God? Doesn’t it mean that you don’t have a life of your own anymore as it is given over entirely to God for His purposes? Those of you who shrink from that possibility will never be able to comprehend the sacrifice Michael gave on behalf of even your own lost souls.
Would you allow the BBC to come into your home and film everything you said and did for three weeks straight? Would you be wiling to tell them everything that you did and thought and said in the last 7 years?
Think about it.
This is what Michael and those of Strong City who were interviewed did. The filmmakers took all that honesty and built an idol out of their own imaginations, leaving out completely the heart of Travesser.
The Son of God came the first time to buy back your right to enter heaven. He came a second time to ensure that it happen, to bring you to full salvation (an actual experience of deliverance from your poor cheap self and not just a profession of it). He only wants you to have the same relationship to God as He does. It took the crucifixion to get the point across in Jesus’ day…an utterly disgusting event in the eyes of “God’s chosen people”. This time, it took the Consummation to get Father’s point across about how He sees us in relation to Himself as the Husband, desiring us to be His Bride. Because of the degradation and self-indulgence now prevalent in the earth, this, too, appears as disgusting and absolutely outrageous to the “good” people who would never follow God’s commands to this degree.
“Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Him hath God exalted with His right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
And we are His witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.” Acts 5:29-32
December 16th, 2007
10:52 pm
I have been watching this dialog with much interest and have wondered something very simple. Do those of you who are trashing Michael Travesser and His followers know God personally? Do you hear Him speak to you? You seem to have no problem telling Michael that he is wrong and that what he does is not from God. Did God tell you that he was wrong? Did you ever go to God yourself and ask Him if Michael is who he says he is or not? That is what he told his followers to do, and then God personally spoke to them and told them he was His Son. God still has a Voice and His children hear Him…
It seems to me that it would save you all so much time to simply go to God and ask Him for yourself. Than you wouldn’t have to waste so much of your time throwing your personal ideas in Michael’s face about how wrong He is. How do you know what is right and what is wrong anyway? Are you God??? There are so many different instances in the Bible where God told people to do things that seemed so extremely wrong and some of the things even went against His own “laws”.
So the point is, the laws are all dead and one MUST hear and know God personally and follow Him and His Spirit or they will be swept away in the refuge of lies along with the rest of satans vessels.
When Jesus came the first time, almost no one believed in him and so it is today…
“When the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”
“Few there be that find it.”
Oh yes, so very few….
December 16th, 2007
11:08 pm
I find it a bit funny that there is so much defending going on with Wayne (just a man). This is what I know about the Second Coming of Christ. “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him. Revelations 1:7
Wayne you are only in the clouds of your brain and you are just a man that has sinned against the 10 Commandments. Thou Shall not commit adultery Exodus 20:14 Thou Shall not Steal Exodus 20:15 Wayne/Michael (like a split personality) You’ve commited adultery and stolen wives from their husbands and children from their parents. As a leader and and ex-SDA minister you may remember these as only 2 of 10 Commandments we are asked to follow. As for why you continue to put Prudence down? She escaped your evil grip and mind control. You are an evil monster that constues the truth and twists it to your earthly benefits. Unfortunately your followers haven’t read their Bible’s thoroughly about False Prophets claming to be the Messiah (hmmm David Koresch, Jim Jones and Rev. Moon just few others before you).
Prudence I applaud you for taking control of your mind and leaving Strong City. Michael is not who he professes to be. He is a manipulator and control freak.
I have some friends that have been mind controlled by this lunatic for 18 years and now he considers DK his wife. He stole her from TK along with every ounce of TK’s self respect. And also took their beautiful innocent daughter as his “Virgin”. Wake up people….read your scriptures and ask for the Holy Spirit to guide you……It is not this worldly man that is lying to all of you. His first wife left him and his madness. Is the only way you can have a wife is by stealing them from their families in the name of the Lord. You are just a man and not Jesus. Every eye will see him. Jesus also known as Christ came and died for our sins….Michael you didn’t do that. You are a False Prophet like many before you. I pray for your victims to be Freed from you looming control as a madman leading them down a path of doom.
I also pray for you….
I also urge TK to take back his wife and daugheter and reunite with your son outside of Strong City and the evil that looms there.
December 17th, 2007
12:31 am
Mr. (Mrs.? Ms.?) “I G W T N L T F A”
How is it that you feel qualified to judge that Michael committed adultery? You have only your inaccurate imagination to rely on in this. Adultery is when one is unfaithful to their spouse. In every instance of Michael’s obedient office of Husband, each party involved was NOT married to another. Father often does things that seem unusual or startling but He always does things right.
Have you asked DK about present things? How could you know TK’s thoughts and feelings on the subject? You infer that TK is a liar. The BBC movie recorded him as saying that Michael was the one who got him through the separation from his earthly relationship. You speak of him as though he were not in agreement with what happened.
If God Himself asked you for your child, to give him up for His purposes, would you? Would you give away your 3 year old son to an old man who lived in the church who said he would raise your son up in it? What if God asked you to give Him the only food source you had? What if God asked you to kill for Him? Think about it. He has done such things before.
God asked Michael to perform a certain office. He asked of others to participate in it with him for His purposes. Who are you to contend with that? Go and ask God for yourself and see what He has to tell you about His plans. If He is silent, I would not blame Him.
December 17th, 2007
12:31 am
Mr. (Mrs.? Ms.?) “I G W T N L T F A”
How is it that you feel qualified to judge that Michael committed adultery? You have only your inaccurate imagination to rely on in this. Adultery is when one is unfaithful to their spouse. In every instance of Michael’s obedient office of Husband, each party involved was NOT married to another. Father often does things that seem unusual or startling but He always does things right.
Have you asked DK about present things? How could you know TK’s thoughts and feelings on the subject? You infer that TK is a liar. The BBC movie recorded him as saying that Michael was the one who got him through the separation from his earthly relationship. You speak of him as though he were not in agreement with what happened.
If God Himself asked you for your child, to give him up for His purposes, would you? Would you give away your 3 year old son to an old man who lived in the church who said he would raise your son up in it? What if God asked you to give Him the only food source you had? What if God asked you to kill for Him? Think about it. He has done such things before.
God asked Michael to perform a certain office. He asked of others to participate in it with him for His purposes. Who are you to contend with that? Go and ask God for yourself and see what He has to tell you about His plans. If He is silent, I would not blame Him.
December 17th, 2007
12:31 am
Mr. (Mrs.? Ms.?) “I G W T N L T F A”
How is it that you feel qualified to judge that Michael committed adultery? You have only your inaccurate imagination to rely on in this. Adultery is when one is unfaithful to their spouse. In every instance of Michael’s obedient office of Husband, each party involved was NOT married to another. Father often does things that seem unusual or startling but He always does things right.
Have you asked DK about present things? How could you know TK’s thoughts and feelings on the subject? You infer that TK is a liar. The BBC movie recorded him as saying that Michael was the one who got him through the separation from his earthly relationship. You speak of him as though he were not in agreement with what happened.
If God Himself asked you for your child, to give him up for His purposes, would you? Would you give away your 3 year old son to an old man who lived in the church who said he would raise your son up in it? What if God asked you to give Him the only food source you had? What if God asked you to kill for Him? Think about it. He has done such things before.
God asked Michael to perform a certain office. He asked of others to participate in it with him for His purposes. Who are you to contend with that? Go and ask God for yourself and see what He has to tell you about His plans. If He is silent, I would not blame Him.
December 17th, 2007
12:31 am
Mr. (Mrs.? Ms.?) “I G W T N L T F A”
How is it that you feel qualified to judge that Michael committed adultery? You have only your inaccurate imagination to rely on in this. Adultery is when one is unfaithful to their spouse. In every instance of Michael’s obedient office of Husband, each party involved was NOT married to another. Father often does things that seem unusual or startling but He always does things right.
Have you asked DK about present things? How could you know TK’s thoughts and feelings on the subject? You infer that TK is a liar. The BBC movie recorded him as saying that Michael was the one who got him through the separation from his earthly relationship. You speak of him as though he were not in agreement with what happened.
If God Himself asked you for your child, to give him up for His purposes, would you? Would you give away your 3 year old son to an old man who lived in the church who said he would raise your son up in it? What if God asked you to give Him the only food source you had? What if God asked you to kill for Him? Think about it. He has done such things before.
God asked Michael to perform a certain office. He asked of others to participate in it with him for His purposes. Who are you to contend with that? Go and ask God for yourself and see what He has to tell you about His plans. If He is silent, I would not blame Him.
December 17th, 2007
12:31 am
Mr. (Mrs.? Ms.?) “I G W T N L T F A”
How is it that you feel qualified to judge that Michael committed adultery? You have only your inaccurate imagination to rely on in this. Adultery is when one is unfaithful to their spouse. In every instance of Michael’s obedient office of Husband, each party involved was NOT married to another. Father often does things that seem unusual or startling but He always does things right.
Have you asked DK about present things? How could you know TK’s thoughts and feelings on the subject? You infer that TK is a liar. The BBC movie recorded him as saying that Michael was the one who got him through the separation from his earthly relationship. You speak of him as though he were not in agreement with what happened.
If God Himself asked you for your child, to give him up for His purposes, would you? Would you give away your 3 year old son to an old man who lived in the church who said he would raise your son up in it? What if God asked you to give Him the only food source you had? What if God asked you to kill for Him? Think about it. He has done such things before.
God asked Michael to perform a certain office. He asked of others to participate in it with him for His purposes. Who are you to contend with that? Go and ask God for yourself and see what He has to tell you about His plans. If He is silent, I would not blame Him.
December 17th, 2007
12:31 am
Mr. (Mrs.? Ms.?) “I G W T N L T F A”
How is it that you feel qualified to judge that Michael committed adultery? You have only your inaccurate imagination to rely on in this. Adultery is when one is unfaithful to their spouse. In every instance of Michael’s obedient office of Husband, each party involved was NOT married to another. Father often does things that seem unusual or startling but He always does things right.
Have you asked DK about present things? How could you know TK’s thoughts and feelings on the subject? You infer that TK is a liar. The BBC movie recorded him as saying that Michael was the one who got him through the separation from his earthly relationship. You speak of him as though he were not in agreement with what happened.
If God Himself asked you for your child, to give him up for His purposes, would you? Would you give away your 3 year old son to an old man who lived in the church who said he would raise your son up in it? What if God asked you to give Him the only food source you had? What if God asked you to kill for Him? Think about it. He has done such things before.
God asked Michael to perform a certain office. He asked of others to participate in it with him for His purposes. Who are you to contend with that? Go and ask God for yourself and see what He has to tell you about His plans. If He is silent, I would not blame Him.
December 17th, 2007
12:37 am
To those defending Wayne Bent AKA Michael Travesser. Use names. Don’t hide behind some falsehood.
December 17th, 2007
12:45 am
So we have the honor of hearing from Prudence once again. You amaze me old friend. You must bring up your mother’s cancer. You play the innocent roll so well in your speech, but you cannot hide the spirit that is in you, and in all of your associates. You hear things and imagine things, but you have no idea what happens in heaven. Hell has only the dark side to interpret things from. You have chosen the side of darkness, by the way you manipulate people and try to control their thoughts. Sometimes we have talked to old acquaintances on the phone, and suddenly they sound like you. The spirit that is in you is shared by them. It is amazing to hear of it. No Prudence, you are not as innocent as you try to make yourself out to be. I have asked you direct questions but you will not answer them. You made such a big mocking extravaganza concerning the two dates in the prophecy, mocking us about the end of the world. Now you try to sidestep the issue and pretend it was something else.
Old friend, who washed my feet with her tears, and kissed me, you try to present yourself as the perfect savior, but you have gone a long way down. You accuse me of falsehoods, evil intentions and contemptuous motivations, but these things rest in your own heart. You only project yourself onto me, and you do not like what you see. I don’t blame you, for I would not like that either. You must now attack your mother, while pretending you are only concerned. Prudence, you hang out like a boil on the forehead. Your friends do also. Such darkness. We love our life here. Why is it that you cannot just love your life, but must spend your life trying to oppress us. Prudence, are you jealous of our happy holy estate. Does our happiness make you madder still? Does our freedom fill you with guile against us? I would suggest to you old friend, that you go get a life, and try to be as happy as you can. I know that is hard for you, for it was hard for you while you were here, but you can give it a try. Try to be a good wife and mother, and forget your miseries. We certainly seem to make you miserable. Don’t pretend to want to save us from ourselves. That is untrue, or you would have Web sites about all of the Messiahs around the world. No, it is just us you hate. Give it up, and you may still be a good mother to your kids.
December 17th, 2007
1:12 am
Michael why are you so hard on Prudence? She’s free, maybe you are afraid she may tell the truth about you? You really seem threatened by her. Christ is threatened by no one. The real Christ does not live on this world as you seem to keep missing that detail of your sordid rearrangement of the Bible’s teachings (ex-minister) thrown out by the Church.
Were you loved by your mother or did you have one?
How do you answer this one? As Christ will answer all our questions when asked.
Second Coming of Christ. “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him. Revelations 1:7. Christ will return with in his cloud of angels just as he transcended from this earth. You are still just a man. Christ will not walk on this earth. Who are you really? I Have talked to the Lord and he will forgive you. Repent repent… let those poor lost people loose from your grips.
December 17th, 2007
1:19 am
Michael I have another question? Who is it that you are really listening to? Is it the little voices planted in your head by another power? You’ve somehow convinced “Your Flock” to listen to them too?
I pray for you and your unsuspecting group. I pray you all to be brought to our Savior “Christ in Heaven” not earth. You are not Christ! However with forgiveness and an awakening you may be able to spread the true gospel that our Lord will return soon and be ready!
December 17th, 2007
1:21 am
In God We Trust: I would like to know who I am talking with. Will you come out of hiding and tell my your name? I have told you mine.
December 17th, 2007
1:24 am
Yours would be Wayne Bent fallen ex-minister?
December 17th, 2007
1:25 am
If you are Christ???? You would know who I am. You are not Christ. Christ knows who I am.
December 17th, 2007
1:25 am
So, that was not my question. What is yours, little hider? I have no secrets. What are yours?
December 17th, 2007
1:30 am
I have no secrets with Christ our Father and Savior. He see’s all and knows all. he knows about you. You hiding behind your flock of mindless followers. (Cause you stole their minds) Thou Shalt no steal. Why don’t you use any Bible quotes?
December 17th, 2007
1:33 am
Little hider: I guess you would not believe in Jesus, because he had to ask where Lazarus was buried. If he were Christ, he would know. Right?
December 17th, 2007
1:35 am
I think the appropriate quote is “Get thee behind me Satan”. I had just hoped that you may allow your followers (followers of man) to read other writings beside your propaganda. It could free their minds from your controlling hold. Then wh