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When I went on Social Security/Disability, I had a lot of time on my hands. When I used to go through anxiety attacks or depression, it would last just about a week or two, but at that time I found myself in a severe depression, and I needed to start doing things differently. I needed a better recovery.

I think I was in that depression because of a breakup that I'd had. It was an extremely toxic relationship. I think I had just made it my job to take care of her. I was energized by it, so I stopped listening to a lot of the key signs that said it wasn't a good relationship. When it failed, since I'd put everything else on the back burner, I was sort of angry about it. And six months after, maybe it was post-traumatic or something, but I just went into a deep, deep depression.

I had been on a certain regimen of medicine because I was diagnosed originally as being hypomanic, and they tried changing my medicine, which just made the depression worse because the new meds made me sleep all day long. That was bad. I was bounced from one medicine to the next for months. I needed something just to fill up my time, so I was going to tons of different 12-Step meetings. I did Al:Anon. I did Emotions Anonymous—anything to occupy my time.

The girl I'd broken up with had been an awful addict, and I had such low self-esteem, I used to justify when she'd relapse and want to go drinking by saying to myself, "If I don't go with her, then she's gonna end up in the street, or she's gonna end up in somebody's bed." I wanted to protect her.
You know that they say the definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting a different result. That was me. After the first couple drinks I'd actually like her better than when she was sober, but then all of a sudden she'd go in the bathroom, pop Vicodin or something, and turn into an absolute monster. I've had some of the most epic travesties going on with her. I'd be driving, and she'd be hitting me and smacking the hell out of me. Our loved ones, the people who know us the best, are always the ones who can push our buttons the most, too!

I had been married and divorced already, and sometimes it did get physical with my ex-wife. I was originally diagnosed manic-depressive in 1994 and started taking medicine then. I always go to extremes—black or white. And I always have talked a lot—and supposedly "forced speech" is a symptom of manic depression. I've always been accused of talking too much. I always hoped that something was going to come out of the sky and cure me. But this relationship with this girl had to end first.

It was New Year's last year, and she asked me to go out and get some crack for her. I thought it was OK, because it was the holiday and we'd both drunk a little bit. She also promised me that we would end up in bed together if I would go out and purchase some crack for her. So I went over to the Boat, which is a casino near where we lived in Elgin, Illinois, and I took some money out on my credit, and I went and got some stuff and brought it back to her. She was doing it, and I tried it a little bit. I didn't take a lot, and I think what she had was pretty weak stuff. Then she decided she didn't have enough, so she went and called her favorite cab driver, who would take her out to buy drugs. And then off she went. She was calling me from her cell, saying she'd be home soon, and so on and so forth. By the next morning, she wasn't even back yet, so I called her house and somebody there told me that she actually had gone to see her ex-boyfriend.

I called up her cab driver, and he told me what street she was on, even what house he thought it was and what car was in front of it. I went up and down the street and decided that this one house was the one. I went up to the door, and I could even hear a bunch of people snoring in there. And I thought, "She's in there with somebody." I knocked on the door, but nobody answered. I was so positive she was in there that I just went on in through a window that was already open. I think some neighbors saw me do that. So I'm walking around in there and I don't see her at all. There are other people in there just sleeping and snoring away, but nobody knew I was in there. I've never been arrested in my life—never even close to it. Then I saw like $30 on a dresser and I don't know what possessed me, but I took it. I was thinking, like, "How dare these people! I'll bet she really was here."

As I was coming back out the window, five cop cars pulled up. I'm thinking, "Well, that's it. I'm going to jail. I've done it this time." But they didn't even cuff me—all I had to do was tell them the situation. They knew my girlfriend and what trouble she was. That sort of helped. The police officers there don't want to do paperwork if they don't have to. If I had done this in a nicer suburb, like Glenview, guaranteed I'd be down to the clinker. They said, "We're going to go in there and see if they want to press charges." I guess either they couldn't wake them up or they said, hey, no big deal, because they were so out of it.

I took the money I'd stolen and bought breakfast for myself, and then I went home. There's a knock on the door and it's not her—it's a police officer going, "OK, where is it? There's $30 missing. If you don't give us that money right now, we're taking your behind to jail."

But then I went back to the street she was on. Coincidentally, she was with some guys I knew. She was passed out, so me and the guys where she was staying just jammed for a while. I play the drums.

We broke up not long after that. I don't know how much of my reactions to her were due to my mental illness or what. They can't cut open my brain and say, "This part works and this part doesn't." They can't do an MRI. I just have to accept that I can wait for the medicines to work forever, but the only way I can get better is by learning tools to deal with my own problems.

LARRY ROTHEISER



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Subject: HELP ME!
Date: Jul 25 2006 11:29:44 PM
Author: Adam Dali

I am gay. I was 25yo. I just broke up a 2 years relationshp with my 60yo bf last 4 months. I've been so sad and depressed for a week. But I said to my self; Life must go on!

Then last Saturday 22 July 2006. I met someone at The Dome (unofficial gay coffee in Kuala Lumpur) There was this handsome guy winked at me and then ask me to join him at his table. We just 'click' like that! talk for half an hour (because later i had a dinner with someone..that end up i dont really like him much!) This man is so friendly and so sweet! He even ask me to go to his house at Sydney. I said I will, becasue i planned to go whether to NY or California at this end of the year. Then he ask me what am i doing tomorrow (sunday) i sadi nothing..then we agreed to had a lunch date on sunday. we exchanged email and phone number. I send him an email, but he hasnt reply yet..eventhought he promise he will reply soon after he arrived at his house. I wonder what went well. i sent him 2/3 emails. still no reply.

But the point is...I i think easily to fall in love...that is my problem. But i really like this man.

HELP ME!!!!



Subject: Larry...
Date: Jan 17 2006 07:10:36 AM
Author: Your Third Sister

Wow, dude, you are possibly almost TOO brave! I kind of can't believe that you would put this up here, with your real name all over it! Aren't you worried that the ex-wife could find it, or maybe one of your kids??? Or, how about your wonderful step-father??? This would really be some conversation to be having over our Seder, huh???



Subject: Shucks
Date: Apr 20 2005 07:10:11 AM
Author: Voiceover Artist

Get a grip, man this chick sounds like she wore the trousers. You were getting played. Why didnīt you ditch this ho? Last year I stopped eating dairy, you should try that. It will stop you feeling like you have to score crack and get fucked over by junkies. Worked for me.



Subject: v
Date: Apr 19 2005 10:50:57 PM
Author: dane

At least V, where ever you are feeling lonely and dateless, you aren't in Toowoomba. Just thank those stars you aren't here AND lonely, because it's terrible.



Subject: v
Date: Apr 17 2005 11:26:16 PM
Author: v

hi hanna,

yes its terrible isnt it. men are idiots..we could get toegther and talk this over but i take it youre in the usa?? and im in australia

v



Subject: v
Date: Apr 16 2005 11:09:41 AM
Author: Hanna

hi v
I have the same problem
maybe we are getting too old??
we should get together and talk this over



Subject: .
Date: Apr 15 2005 12:49:19 AM
Author: .

fuck skin



Subject: destiny
Date: Apr 14 2005 01:30:11 PM
Author: rocko

sometimes telling 'normal' people about my life-style and that i read VICE magazine loyally and with the dabbling in drugs and watching the news and living in Sloth Angeles - sometimes i feel like i could be this guy a little too easily - like a bad break-up or friend-in-a-car-accident away.
and that's the whole point of this issue, right VICE? You're telling us that if we read VICE avidly, we're probably dancing on the fringes and well on our way to being in the follow-up issue to this one - The "I used to read Vice magazine and now I'm fucked" issue. thanks for the warning, it puts things into perspective.



Subject: Larry
Date: Apr 13 2005 10:58:44 PM
Author: Czar

No. Don't tell them. You know you are right in your head. They aren't ready for your advice. They cannot see your genius for what it is.



Burn. Burn it all.


Killkillkillkillkillkill....



Subject: Drugs suck
Date: Apr 13 2005 08:46:40 PM
Author: Mule

I can't believe the timing of this magazine. I found out a week ago that my ex-boyfriend has been committed. He checked himself in because he didn't feel right and was diagnosed bipolar and manic-depressed. He nurse told him that because he checked himself in, he could leave anytime he wanted, but if he did, she would call the police and have him arressted and brought back. He is a danger to himself and the people around him. This was all due to substance abuse.

We were together for 2 years, I really loved him and part of me still does but he drinks, smokes pot WAY to much and other shit. He was cheating on me for 3 months and even after I found out all about it, he denied it. He honestly believed it didn't happen.

We use to joke about him being a text book sociopath, not so funny now. He is convinced he is a famous rock star (I kid you not) being held against his will. He keeps trying to communicate secret messages in mathematical equations and has been desperately trying to get in touch with me again which is kinda scary...

I don't really know much about mental illness but I do know that drugs fuck you up and people who do copious amounts are the most selfish people in the world.

This is a sad story.



Subject: where is the love
Date: Apr 10 2005 10:07:48 PM
Author: v

herro,

i am writing to you cus i feel as tho im about to go
mental...and in your magazine you always rave on as if
guys are just big horny toads always after girls n
stuff, but i dont find that to be the case.
i have been single now for like almost a year..well i
dated 2 guys briefly, all in all pretty pathetic, and
i can say now that im desperate for a boyfriend.
i would say that im like pretty attractive n stuff im
not hugely fat or anything, if anything i can say that
im a catch.
previous to this year of singledom i was going out
with a guy for 3 years, before that a guy for 3 months
before that 6 months...they were all just one after
the other. and id say they were pretty hot guys!
i used to be able to just look at a guy before and
theyd be interested, but not anymore...it all seems
now guys just want to listen to records, play guitar
or build with lego or whatever they do...but its all
with other guys, not girls.

im pretty sure i dont smell or anything...should i
wear a wonderbra or something???
i think maybe theres something wrong
with me like i have desperate and dateless stamped on
my forehead
please help me!!!! i feel like im living in a parallel universe



Subject: crackheads and dating
Date: Mar 31 2005 07:27:21 AM
Author: me

you use crackheads et al for their streety currency. well its over. we are all crackheads now. get a new fucking angle.crackheads, junkies, prostitutes. big fucking deal
please don't date a crackhead? i can't believe the cheapness of this.yeah she fucked you over..so wot? if you dated a straight chick she'd do the same because you are a mark. crackheads and all entrepenueurs know a sucker when they see one. don't hate on her for doing her job man.yeah thats right...you fucking look for someone weak and maleable and then they fuck you over. sounds about right to me fuck face.
and if i hear/read another piece typifying someone by their drug use like this i'll scream.



Subject: CRACKHEAD
Date: Mar 24 2005 10:00:52 AM
Author: GIN

NICE CATHARSIS. ALMOST MADE ME CRY. NOW GO OUT AND FIND YOU A HAPPY GIRL WHO SMOKES WEED INSTEAD!



Subject: "Great" Advice
Date: Mar 23 2005 03:42:36 PM
Author: Woodpecker

WOW! Don't date a crackhead...who knew (please read heavy sarcasm here). I mean to be critical here--your situation is not unique--many a man has "bent over" for the promise of sex, company, stability...whatever.

Please don't present this as deep and difficult to understand. I basic terms, you stuck with her for a chance to "pet the cat". It IS as simple as that. Your problems with her are not the result of your illness, but simply another dance round the floor in the age-old male-female tango.

By the way, I know SHE was the crackhead, but YOU sure seemed to be able to score rocks in an instant. Makes me say, hmmmmm.



Subject: hits home
Date: Mar 21 2005 12:24:19 AM
Author: Dynomite

Holy Crap,

This hits home so much for me. I went through a nasty breakup with a stretch of unemployment, later with anxiety and depression. And the girl I met during this period was the shittiest girlfriend I ever had, but I was so fucked up about even losing such a shitty piece of my life that I just kept her, especially since I felt I had nothing. I'm just glad I had a few good friends to say I was worth more than that.

You sound like you have a great head on your shoulders. It gets a bit better with persistence and self-worth. Don't ever sell yourself short. People can take your money, your house, but they can't take your self-respect. Don't give it away.

Stand strong.




Subject: There's your sign
Date: Mar 20 2005 01:50:10 AM
Author: Blue

"They can't do an MRI."

Yes, they can.

Great story though. Sucks that happened in real life.



Subject: dude..
Date: Mar 18 2005 08:44:24 PM
Author: vee

i know this guy..it's the guy next to you on the subway who is looking at you from the corner of his eye and your all like what!?hell no fool.



Subject: yeah
Date: Mar 18 2005 06:43:06 PM
Author: mg

yeah, bitches'll drive you crazy. In fact they'll fuck up your head more than crack! They know what we want, its not hard to figure out, and they'll tease us with a sample and a taste then wrap us around thier little finger with promises of more: IF they get what they want. Its like a wise man once said to me: "don't ever get married, don't even fall in love, just "date" hookers. You'll save money, time, and energy in the end." True, so true...



Subject: relationships with addicts
Date: Mar 17 2005 10:26:43 PM
Author: sean

relationships with total addicts can force you to clean up, and be good for you in the long run. Stay strong and detox and stay away from bad influences. I was in a relationship with a speed freak for four years that almost completely wrecked my life. My life went so south that I had to completely sober up and get my shit together and it was great for me in the long run, so hang tough, and move to a better, less depressing town if you can.



Subject: .
Date: Mar 17 2005 02:05:12 PM
Author: agent420

that's deep.



Subject: marginalized
Date: Mar 17 2005 01:40:35 AM
Author: wendy h

sara.
no.



Subject: Elgin
Date: Mar 15 2005 12:35:48 PM
Author: Reggie

I broke down in Elgin, IL with a band I was in (I play drums too dude). That place would make anyone depressed. A kid who couldn't have been older than twelve was working the register at the liquour store. He asked me for ID.



Subject: Jack Torrance
Date: Mar 14 2005 04:50:20 PM
Author: Lloyd

Hey Jack - What's Lloyd the bartender serving during happy hour tonight? (Other than good advice).



Subject: write or be written off
Date: Mar 13 2005 08:53:08 PM
Author: sara

You are really strong. Hang in there. I'm really glad VICE dedicated an issue to literally giving voice to the marginalized.



Subject: gfjdghjk
Date: Mar 10 2005 11:30:55 PM
Author: R

good luck man. You sound like a good guy. Your not alone, every person gets driven to the edge by their partner at times. Keep playing the drums, or doing whatever it is that your into.



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