Oh man,
Another good band about to be ruined by the soul sucking, lifestyle label know as Vice.
A sip of my 40oz. pours on the floor in remembrance.

Hey Butthole Surfer, Upset The Rhythm are doing the record *not* Vice!

Just appearing on the vice website is enough to kill any band’s creativity, individuality and will to live.

er. thats one really fucking dumb thing to say

p.s. Trash Kit are wonderful

Hey butthole surfer,

why don’t you get off the internet and fall on a sword. really, because you have nothing to say. about as much weight as an anonymous death wish on the internet.

suck my crockery.

trash kit, rad.

BUTTHOLE, thanks for putting a downer on this band’s FIRST EVER interview!!! i appreciate that you give a shit, but would also appreciate it if you kept ur bitterness to yourself/ jerked off elsewhere. thanks to the folks who like us! (ahem, them…)
x

Hey everybody, me again. I would like to start off by saying ‘fuck you’ to the other post-ers. I really like Trash Kit and was kind of joking in my first post. I was in no way putting down the band, but rather the site. Vice magazine, blog, records etc.., in my opinion, sucks the life out of anything cool or interesting. It projects itself as a ‘cutting edge’ conglomerate when it is really just another trendy rag and website exploiting the underground scene for its own profit so companies like La Costa and Adidas can drive the message that, “hey, we are just like you” and pretend like they actually give a shit about good, independent music, which they clearly have no clue or care about.
The sad thing is that the state of independent music has become so dire due to file sharing that no one can make any money doing it anymore, so the great bands that would other wise turn a shoulder to Vice are almost forced to sign on in order to get some extra exposure in the hopes that they will see a minimal return and sell a few records. I don’t mind people getting angry and posting reactions to my comments, it is your right as a human, but the idiots that have told me to ’stay off the internet’ can suck my balls. At least leave a comment that is intelligentor funny, you fucking hipster twats. I like the band, I hate Vice. End of story.

Trash Kit are totally awesome and deserve the exposure. and obviously this guy reads vice or he wouldn’t be on here. Hey butthole, if vice is so soul-sucking why do read it? I don’t see how doing an interview with any magazine is selling out. I hope this doesn’t put the band off doing more interviews, they rock!

firstly you obviously weren’t joking in your first post if you felt the need to go on a big rant about it. Secondly do you really think we’re all that gullible? we know vice is just a trendy rag full of adverts but do you really think all these bands have the soul sucked out of them by one measly interview? I think you’re actually overestimating the power of the media. the people who read it and the bands in it are not all mindless automatons who are being brainwashed by advertising and think it makes us cool to read vice. Most readers are pretty casual and if bands are asked for an interview they’d be silly to turn it down seeing as it is a free mag with wide distribution. I really don’t think indie bands feel all that hopeless about the state of independent music. Not everyone is out to make money

Who are you kidding, i’m sorry but who ever just wrote that obviously believes their own Bull Shit!

Actually, I do believe that MOST of the Vice readers do buy into their bullshit. And I’m sure that many lazy people use it as a ‘guide to what is cool’. If we don’t stand up to pieces of shit like Vice and refuse to support it then advertisers, be it a record label or whatever, are going to stop advertising with other free mags in favour of Vice because, after all, everyone who is going to buy the new hot band of the minute’s record are reading Vice anyway, so why not?
Independent music IS in a dire state. Look at how all the indies have favoured trends over substance. Do you really think that anyone would have put out Wavves awful new record if it didn’t sound like a Times New Viking rip off if they didn’t think it would sell?
And for the record, I do not read Vice. I was sent a link to the Trash Kit article by a friend and fan of the band with the title, “look at who Vice has got its grips into now.”
So I am not alone in my opinions.

Independent music is in an utterly incredible state, you just aren’t looking in the right places. I am genuinely happier with current music than ever before.
Vice is an easy target for lazy, cynical losers who can’t achieve anything themselves so instead opt to decide that some force, big bad Vice magazine, is crushing creativity and stifling individuality. I don’t know another magazine in the world that has featured everyone from the Television Personalities to the Crucifucks. Trash Kit merely conducted an interview with them, they aren’t ‘in their clutches’. Seriously, lay off the weed dude, you seem pretty paranoid. Vice do not have the ability to snatch bands up, swaddle them in blankets and fly away on their broomsticks to Vice H.Q where they “ruin” them. How can you ruin a band anyway? Bands ruin themselves by either a) making bad music or b) making bad decisions. You are a moron.

thank you Andy! couldn’t put it better myself! In the words of Kathleen Hanna, “get off the internet!! i’ll meet you in the street!!!” I reckon the UK underground is healthier than ever and it’s due to promoters like S.I.D and UTR that i got involved in it, I DON’T READ VICE. but i think it seems like a good platform for good stuff. It’s all about saving your breath complaining about the status quo and using your energy/anger to create an alternative. and it’s about being uncompromising with any ‘product’ that comes from that but still being shrewd enough to get beyond sitting in a practice room saying ‘this shit is so UNDERGROUND!’ happy in the knowledge that no one will ever hear it. don’t know about you guys but this has inspired me to get started with that ZINE i’ve always wanted to write. maybe it’ll be a TrashKit zine…
x

“i don’t read vice”
um, indie rock better now than the 80’s/90’s????
u little fucken student fucks
wake up
grow up
get out

Well if everybody is so happy with the ‘underground’, and by the way, a band that has their tour sponsored by Rizla or Jägermeister is no longer underground, then I guess I should take the advice from the guy appropriately called Fucktard and ‘get out’. If this is how the scene is then I don’t want in. My final suggestion is to read Maximum Rock and Roll, then read Vice and make your own choice. If you pick Vice then I guess you are happy with your Little Boots’ albums and do not want anything original or against the grain. Go live in your safe world where you give yourself an excuse to support a shitty, trendy and far from anything original corporation.
I know that Vice can’t single handedly kill a band’s creativity, but merely agreeing to be involved with it in anyway is just one step closer to death. Good music or not, bands who give in to this format are killing independent music.
The thing is, I’m sure the people who work at Vice are pretty sound and probably want to make a good mag etc…, but it is the advertisers who ultimately run the show and if click numbers are down then its time to post a story about something that will bring in more stupid fucking people from other shitty sites like NME.

omg

BUTThole surfer shut up dude, its just a blog. I really dont see how this is going to effect me and the other two TK gals. WERE one step closer to death!!! wotever

Hi guys ive been monitering these debacle for a while now
and i gotta side with butthole surfer
vice blows
MRR rules

now stop crying on the net and go get a job and moan at your boss rather than your fellow artists

sall about zines, who needs mags?

Hey Trash Kit, you guys rule and this dude isn’t saying YOU will be ruined by this Vice interview, just that its a great example of them trying to use something thats actually independent to make them seem like they are part of the underground/counter culture/one of the good guys
You guys get some exposure, they get big old KUDOS for having their finger on the pulse
Oh yeah: “Seriously, lay off the weed dude” made me laugh

The funny thing is i can’t get weed anymore. I’m too old so all the dealers think I’m a narc.

The weed comment was just because of the vast amount of paranoia evident in Butthole Surfer’s posts. Vice aren’t capable of ruining anyone, bands make or break themselves as I said earlier. I just find the Vice hate so played out and boring. Sure, I can find numerous problems with the publication but no more than many others. More often than not they have some pretty interesting things to say and a lot of the dudes who work there have A+ taste in music hence why I read it. Anyway, I have nothing further to say except Maximum Rock & Roll is alright (Zero Boys cover feature right now) but pretty pious, and I love John Arthur Webb.

i love lo-fi but i wish the vocals were higher in the mix. that’s the best thing they got going!

is the drummer wearing cat whiskers up ther ein the picture?

im not crazy about lofi and yes agreed, the vocals need to be louder. im sur ethey already know this and we’re just being annoying pointing out the obvious

the raincoats album cover is sweeet!

I hear Brain Lapse magazine is where its at

ah man! i want a greyhound sharpie drawing on my WALL!!!

super catchy is a good description

iagree with you becca, love that shit on my wall, wonder if one of them did it.

It is really catchy, but Leslie is right. I can’t hear the vocals at all.

did anyone see them at the old blue last last week? Trash Kit were really great, but who were the first band, they rocked my world.

In reply to Jo, was that Sex Beet? Drums/guitar/keyboard?

yesh possibly, 3 young men, very loud & very fun. who the devil are they?

http://www.myspace.com/sexbeet
young dudes called Tom, Will and Matthew Junior

yup. sex beet

oh and this is the guy who drew the greyhound picture, he runs Club Milk and he’s a DUDE
http://www.andrewmilk.com/

yeah sex beet then, thats them, GREAT!!! hot shit.

you don’t have to like vice. but i always wonder what the people who post shit about it on here think is their ideal alternative… it’s a free magazine, it covers good music, art, has some interesting stories in it, and some funny stuff, and it’s… FREE. it being free by the way necessitates all those ‘evil’ adverts. not a great deal to complain about. do you throw rocks at buses and set fire to billboards? adverts are everywhere, chill out.

I can’t stop revisiting this, comment boards are addictive like fuuuuuuuuuuc.

this band is real good. I’m into lofi recordings and a band like this definately uses the warmness of the tape to their advantage. KILL

[...] Trash Kit are getting super hi-fi [...]

I’m not even gonna talk this up: This is just pure, visceral rock’n'roll: WHY NOT NOW?

http://www.myspace.com/whynotnowmusic

Hey Butthole Surfer, there’s more to life than finding the most “legit” or “underground” or “original” bands and magazines. I don’t read Vice or MRR or any magazine. You’re not cool because you know more obscure music than the next guy, you’re not cool because you try not to be. What even are these magazines? Is that where you get the fake ideals you prescribe to? What do you care how the next guy gets his kicks? Who sits at home and seriously contemplates in remorse about “the dismal state of indie music?” You could say it’s been dead since DNA in ‘82 or that like everything in art it’s perpetually morphing into something else completely, but what does it matter?

If you make music, you want people to hear it. Ever think that maybe some bands don’t get caught up in image, that they have better things to do than get caught up in trivialities like extraneous advertisement that doesn’t have anything to do with the actual interview, music or substance? That they aren’t out to have the smallest fan base ever? Maybe they even think it’s funny. Maybe the joke is on the advertisers since all the people who read this don’t actually pay attention to them anyways. Maybe the joke is on you for giving a shit. Stop taking yourself, the music scene, and its apparently crucial role in your banal existence so goddamn seriously. It doesn’t make you cool, it makes you an asshole. Let it go.

Good for you, Trash Kit. You have a nice sound.