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We had the first of our “HATE IS A STRONG WORD” grime nights at the Old Blue Last this month. The bar takings were down, the bouncers started crying, but at least there were three rival grime crews on stage having a huge fight. It was like the grime equivalent to the Source Awards when Suge Knight threatened the East Coast. Only without the celebrity, money or audience.

The row between Jammer’s Jah Mek The World, and Lethal Bizzle’s Fire Camp came to a head, when both crews turned up unannounced, and started exchanging infant school insults. Fire Camp’s MC Fumin’ didn’t make it to the mic before the parental slanging erupted into grade A scuffling, and he was pushed off the stage.

Vice: What was all the conflict about?
Fumin’: Lethal went up Westwood the other week and said shit about Jammer, so people got upset, then when we got to “Hate Is A Strong Word” it just all went off. 2Face, one of my boys, and Jammer started clashing, so we all obviously got involved. Then when I touched the mic, I got pushed off the stage. So I hit the roof, started pushing people and what-not. It was exciting.

What truth did he let out?
Someone started chatting about people’s mums, it all kicked off.

Isn’t that all a bit childish?
Yeah it’s petty. The whole thing is petty. Afterwards, one of them boys started cussing my friends’ mums and it got even worse.

Do have a good relationship with your mum?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She’s more like a sister to me. Yeah, me and my mum are tight, we have a very good relationship.

What makes it so strong?
A lot of truth. I don’t really keep anything from my mum. I tell her everything. Some peoples mum’s are well strict and stuff, but she has always been good with me. She’s always supported me 100 per cent with my music and everything I’ve done.

Does she like Fire Camp?
Hahaha. Well, I play her stuff and she tells me what she thinks. She explains why she like bits and why she doesn’t like other bits. I listen to her. I understand.

Considering no venue will now host a grime night, isn’t clashing just going to ruin the scene?
Yeah, it is going to send everything downhill. If no one has anywhere to perform, then how can the scene grow? It can’t, it’s sad. How can you have a scene with no raves? You can’t, get me? When “Forward Riddim” came out a lot of clubs decided they didn’t want us performing there. It was real hard, bruv.

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Subject: please
Date: Oct 27 2005 04:07:18 PM
Author: hah

a buncha wankers having a go at each other. quite proper mates, but the truth is, with 'rapping' about crying and such it makes everyone look like a buncha suburban wankstas.



Subject: backstreet boys
Date: Oct 21 2005 12:49:31 PM
Author: Joe

How long must I wait for an eastend skinhead revival



Subject: Grime and comments
Date: Oct 18 2005 04:51:58 AM
Author: s k i of Norwich,UK

My there is some intelligent feedback on this article. So many 'haters' the grimes would say. But whatever they say there is undoubtedly some startlingly high-brow feedback on the subject. May it continue.



Subject: grime
Date: Oct 11 2005 08:09:05 AM
Author: a dapper

grime is hate, GO SUCK YOUR DAD!!!



Subject: being cool
Date: Oct 08 2005 12:56:52 PM
Author: mr cool

Grime is sooooooooooo last season. Didn't you even hear of the arctic monkeys yet :rolleyes:



Subject: Fumin in da middle of another grime beef
Date: Oct 06 2005 07:54:34 AM
Author: s k i of Norwich,UK

Great article, particularly liked the bit where you compared it to Suge Knight dissing east coast but like you say lacking in money celeb or audience. I am a fan of HipHop and UK Hip Hop but who cares about Lethal B(on Westwood show) trying to be UK's 50pence and dissing all the competition. It got 50 so far but now anyone with half a brain can see how fake he is.Anyway i dont even know what grime is. Is it a load of middle class lads trying to be ghetto types with their weak rapping and rave style beats. Give me Biggie or Tupac anyday, real artists,real beef,real music.



Subject: Wigwam of Grime
Date: Oct 06 2005 04:45:47 AM
Author: David Cam'ron

someone please make a Troggs style 'best of studio beef' album- no music, just the greatest/lamest disses.



Subject: Grime
Date: Oct 05 2005 08:38:41 AM
Author: Trowz

The grime scene is utter kak anyway, so you little kiddies carry on dissing eachothers mums, have a little scrap, and then FUCK OFF



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