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SHIT DISTURBER
THE WORLD'S GREATEST JOB
UNGRATEFUL DEAD
THE VICE GUIDE TO BEING A WHORE
LYING HOMO
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I LOVE THE LIBERTINES
LIGHTNING BALD
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Ok, let's cut the shit here. Working in the "sex industry" fucking blows. Suicide Girls get to have hairy armpits, and it's fun to put your picture up on onlyundiesclub.com, but that's playacting. Real sex work is about showing up at a millionaire crackhead's house with a big box of Wet Ones, letting him bang the shit out of you for three days (even though he pulled a gun on you for sitting on the left-hand side of his bed), and then leaving with $1,900. No matter what the empowered academics in San Francisco pretend to believe, whoring—in any form—is hell, and the only reason women do it is to get money for coke NOW! If you want to try it out, be prepared to have nothing to show for years of suffering but a blown-out septum and some lumpy fake tits. It's like extreme waitressing. You make hundreds of dollars a night licking ass and then you immediately spend it on drugs just to feel normal again.

If you're really, truly still interested, please at least do us a kindness and read this A–Z before your first day on the job.

ANAL
A few years ago it might have been acceptable to be a whore who "doesn't do anal." Now you'd be lucky to get out of there without him making you cry on demand, gag on his dick to the point of puking, and THEN have anal sex while two dildos are simultaneously jammed into your pussy. I don't know why things have gotten so raunchy. Maybe guys have been corrupted by the internet and endless mpegs of Cambodian babies getting fucked by dogs. Point is, their idea of humiliating a woman (what sex work is all about) has been ramped up quite a bit, so don't think you're going to get away with smoking a cigarette in high heels while he takes pictures. The prices seem to have gone down too, but it's so hard to say in this business. The cheapest price I've ever heard a girl charging was simply "a place to stay," and the most I've ever heard a girl getting is $10,000 from a Japanese businessman who would fly her to Tokyo for one night. You'll probably make $100.

BACHELOR PARTIES
Bachelor parties are the cash cow of whoring, but they're fucking scary. Men have a tendency to try to outdo each other, so if you start the night with a blowjob and cum in your eye, your last trip to the hotel bathroom will involve something along the lines of getting fucked in the ass sans lube while the guy pours shampoo in your eyes. It's worth it, though, because they usually only last for one to five hours and you can make $6,000 pure profit.

COCAINE
Coke is what this whole industry is about. The majority of the clients are doing it in some capacity, and so are all the hos. Really high cokeheads are simultaneously the best and the worst johns you can have. The good part is the money, because they want you to stay over for a long time, but the bad part is the paranoia and the limp dick and how those two interact.

You have to make sure you look him in the eyes when you walk in and don't act too sketchy, because cokeheads are convinced everyone is trying to rip them off and if you contribute to that theory in even the slightest way, he's going to go nuts. When you finally convince him you're there to work and nothing else, he'll pull out his soft dick and get even more mad. Then he doesn't want to wear a condom for the blowjob because that's only going to make things worse. It sucks.

BTW, if the guy is giving you a hassle about having to use a condom for a blowjob, there's a way you can put it on his dick without him knowing. It takes some practice, but you start with it in your mouth and then kind of roll it on his penis as your head goes down. When you're done you can just leave it on him so he can see what an asshole he is.

DEODORANT
Strippers and prostitutes (and fags, for some reason) all know this secret way to prevent ingrown hairs after you shave your swimsuit area. It's simple and cheap and it never fails. Put deodorant on it. I think there's something about the alcohol in the deodorant that opens the pores wide enough that the hairs can't ingrow. It's the same principle behind that really expensive Tend Skin shit, but deodorant works about 80 times better.

ESCORT AGENCIES
You'll notice whores who work with an agency are a lot more patient than streetwalkers. Escorts are there for the full hour whether you get a boner or not. Streetwalkers, on the other hand, have a real live pimp, and he wants his money 15 minutes ago. If a john doesn't get it up with a streetwalker right away, he's dead.

FUCKED BY YOUR DAD
Second-wave feminists like Andrea Dworkin and Catherine MacKinnon made up this cruel stereotype that everyone in the sex industry got fucked by their dad. What do they know about it? Shit, that's not fair. I mean, I got fucked by my dad, and every single woman I've met in the industry (stripping, prostitution, internet, phone sex…everything) got fucked by her dad, but…oh shit, wait. It is true. I guess that's why we can lie underneath someone who has no business being on top of us and not give a shit. Statistics on incest are hard to gauge, but when you look at the number of women in the industry today and consider the fact that they ALL got fucked by their dad, it kind of makes your stomach turn.

PS: If your dad never fucked you and you're not a lesbian, quit now. Otherwise you will hate all men forever.

GANG BANGS
Whores never get asked to do gang bangs because most guys think it's too faggy. The only place you will ever see gang bangs is in porn. I don't know much about it because I'm a whore and we don't watch porn. It's like you watching a movie about sitting at your desk.

HATERS
You know you're in it for the long haul when you hate your coworkers. In this business EVERYONE hates everyone else. I'm here to make money, and anyone who is prettier than me (or cheaper) is the competition. I've even had nights at strip clubs where some black bitch was all up in my face saying, "If you get one more dance tonight I'm going to kick your ass." That happens all the time, and you have to sit there and try to decide, "Do I go home now and know I won't get into a fight, or do I risk getting my ass kicked and make some more money?"

INTERNET PORN
Internet porn is the most tolerable type of sex work. If you can use a computer, you're in. Amateur websites with girls-next-door working out of their bedrooms still make millions, and even the chubby girl with the lazy eye is taking home $1,000 a month (though it's not worth it if you're making less than $4,000 a month). Most internet places have about 3,000 people working 24 hours a day, each charging about $3.50 a minute. That's over $15 million a day. And thus we come to the essential paradox of porn. It fucking sucks. It's depressing. It makes you hate men. But the money. Fuck.

To get started, all you need is a computer, a relatively fast connection, a webcam, and maybe a Hello Kitty pillow. Then you just click the "Become a chat host" button on your favorite porn site. After confirming your age they'll send you the software, and then whenever you feel like going online, horny guys will send you money. The good thing about working on the internet is, there are strict censorship rules on amateur sites that ban hardcore pornography, so you can say no to drinking pee and fisting and still not get fired. Don't get me wrong, you still get humiliated and bossed around, but it's easier on your knees and you can be fat. The internet is where old hos go to die.

JERKING OFF
Massage parlors will tell you in your interview that you don't have to do anything you don't want to and you can just jerk them off with a glove if you're grossed out. What they don't mention is, that means you'll go home penniless. The money you make is all about what you can negotiate for yourself after the massage. First, dude pays the agency around 40 dollars for the massage, which lasts 30 minutes to an hour. Then, after he's all "comfers cozers," you become a free agent and get to make your own money negotiating handjob and blowjob prices. The wage will be the average between how desperate you both are. Most places have a 3-2-1 plan, which means $300 for a fuck, $200 for a blowjob, and $100 for a handjob, but those prices all go down the tubes when some dumb cunt does anal for $80.

KLEPTOMANIA
The thing about whoring is, after being humiliated and spat on (literally) for an hour, you inevitably feel like you want to get back at the guy. That's why we steal. It's usually just frivolous shit like a size-12 sneaker or a little Buddha thing from the bathroom, but occasionally you'll get a really tenacious whore who will watch him use the ATM, memorize his PIN, steal his card when he's passed out or taking a piss, and eventually get away with thousands of dollars.

LUNCH
If you're a whore in 2004 you have two categories of food in your fridge: nonfood and cry-for-help food. The first category is things like protein bars and celery with a Crystal Lite chaser: just enough food to kill the hunger pains but not enough to add any calories. Category two is about secretly trying to get fat and sabotage your career. Every few days a ho will break out of category one and make a jar of mayonnaise or an entire tub of ice cream disappear in seconds. Then it's back to energy drinks. The only consistent thing about what we eat is we all LOVE drinking pink cider. I don't know why.

MAMMARY GLANDS
Even though it meant having your nipples removed and placed next to you in a bowl of ice for a few hours, getting fake tits used to be a great way to make more money. Then, around two years ago, they became uncool, even with perverts. Now you can actually lose clients by having fake tits. I'm getting mine taken out because when you go out with nice civilian boys they are totally freaked out by them, and even if they look great, you have to replace them every five fucking years.

NATIVE AMERICANS
Agencies love anyone that looks remotely exotic because they can advertise you as the latest fetishized race, which changes about every four months. If you have dark hair and something minimally unusual about your face, you will make more money for everyone. If Mongolians are the hot new thing, you're Mongolian. If you have even a hint of Native in you, you're totally set because you can be advertised as anything from half-Asian to Fijian royalty.

ORGASMS
Whores cum on the job about once a career. Sorry, but if a clit gets pounded seriously and systematically enough, it may just send an orgasm to the brain. Also, about 25 percent of your clients are going to want to eat you out (I know, it's weird), and that can be a nice break that may lead to the dreaded "ho-gasm." The time it happened to me, the guy was so gross and I was so disgusted with the whole thing that I ended up cumming just out of how uncumworthy the whole thing was. You know?

PHONE SEX
A lot of single mothers do this as an easy way to make money. They think it won't make them feel repulsed, but that's bullshit. Like all whoring, phone sex makes you hate yourself and it puts you in a bad mood for about four hours after your last call. Plus, you'll be lucky to take home $300 a week.

QUITTING
The average sex worker's career is six months. If you work for an agency or (ugh) a real pimp, they will try everything from relentless nagging to kidnapping you with a bag over your head to keep you from quitting. Women aren't that great at saying no to begin with, and when you add getting fucked by your dad to the equation, cutting the cord ends up taking quite a few tries.

RETURNS
These are great. If the guy sends you back you make $40 without doing anything. All you have to do is pay the driver $10 to enforce the $50 minimum, and that's it. You're back in the car with your money and you didn't even take your jacket off.

SUICIDE GIRLS
Sorry hipsters, but this is not porn. It's not even sex work. It's more like a pretend tea party with your stuffed animals. I applied to it when it first came out and they actually expected me to do shit like explain why I'd be a good Suicide Girl. Excuse me? That's the first time a pimp ever wanted to see a résumé. The reason these girls can wax poetic about how it's the new porn and talk about empowerment is simple: They are not in the porn industry. Porn is about subordinating yourself for money. If it feels good, you're not doing it right.

TELLING PEOPLE (NOT)
You know you are doing real sex work when you can shut the fuck up. Bragging rights don't really exist unless you are looking for people to make a basset hound face at you and start crying. NEVER tell a civilian man you're trying to have sex with that you have ever taken money for sex. At first he will think it's kind of cool that he can have sex with a pro for free, but then he'll expect you to be Lil' Kim all the time and get all jock on you by telling you to "break out the toys!" when all you wanted was your sad neglected pussy to be licked in silence for three to seven minutes. Or he will freak out and think his friend paid you to have sex with him on his birthday and then throw a beer through your bedroom window. He will never marry you. Read The Rules to the Ring.

UNDERWEAR
The second you get to the guy's house or hotel, it's a good rule of thumb to (after asking permission) get right down to just a thong. I do this right away because if you wait until he asks you, he might fuck you over by telling the agency that he's not going to pay because you kept your J. Lo tracksuit on for the first hour and smoked menthols while nursing a cider and didn't even look at his dick.

Every other kind of sex work is about drawing it out as long as possible. Especially the internet. The guy's credit card is being charged by the minute and he's in New Jersey, so keep milking him. What's he going to do, fax you a punch in the head?

VERBAL WHORES
Seventy-five percent of whoring is making small talk. Strippers and whores are really there because the guy is lonely and wants someone to complain to. I have a good system of smiling, nodding a lot, making eye contact, laughing, and speaking only to agree or say something charming after every five points he has made. After whoring for six months you will find you are better at guessing the answers on Jeopardy! and doing crossword puzzles because you have had to listen to hours and hours of men jerking their mouths off telling you pointless little facts to make them feel smarter. Just pretend you have been picked up hitchhiking and you have to stay awake and talk to the guy or he'll fall asleep driving and kill you both.

WET ONES
A Ho Bag is a wee sports purse you take with you on calls. Inside it you have: condoms (the free ones from the needle exchange), baby powder (helps putting on condoms), a driver price list (so you know what to pay him for what parts of the city), Band-Aids, Listerine (if you dare give a BJ unwrapped), Saran Wrap (so you don't get herpes when he eats you out), and the most important thing in the world: a pack of Wet Ones. If you don't carry Wet Ones with you at all times, you are not a whore in 2004. They make eating ass palatable, they help rid you of the "grossies" after a bad session, and they get jizz off your face in a way that makes it feel like it was never there.

X RATING
(Vice helped me with this one.) The MPAA instituted their ratings system in 1968, and X was the one that meant "no kids can come in here, no way, we don't care if your parents are with you." It was used for legit films like Midnight Cowboy (the first X-rated movie). Then porno makers, in a clever little marketing move, started using the made-up rating XXX (which was supposed to mean "so fucking dirty your eyes will burn," even though back then all you really saw was two hairy crotches mushing up against each other). Now in 2004, you have Max Hardcore fucking girls in the ass as they puke on each other with weird dental shit holding their mouths open, so the whole X thing has sort of gone out the window. That's why they made up NC-17 instead of X for "real" movies. NCCC-1777 isn't quite as catchy as XXX.

YOUTH
The younger you are, the better. You're stupider, you're easier to manipulate, and you have a tighter pussy, which means less ass fucking. I say fuck getting a tit job. Splurge for pussy-rejuvenation surgery and change that thing from a wet paper bag into a McDonald's straw.

ZZZZZZZZZ
Falling asleep. This skill, otherwise known as disassociation, comes in handy. It usually sets in around hour three of sucking a rich cokehead's limp cock. The old daddy-fucked-me thing means most whores are old friends with disassociation. You can get a lot done while you're disassociating, like thinking about that girl you knew in third grade and trying to remember her name, or deciding which movies you're going to put in your queue on Netflix.

Sometimes you can go so far with it that you actually fall asleep, and if that happens, you're fucked in every sense of the word. You're either going to get raped without a condom or have your face punched in. The only hos I know who survived falling asleep were the ones who were with those weirdo subservient guys who want you to laugh at their small dick and then let them eat you out for half an hour. Those guys are fucking disgusting and depressing and they are about as good as whoring gets. Got it?

KASANDRA MARIN



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Comments:

Date: May 31 2008 05:42:02 AM
Author: cn

i like to FUCK.!



Subject: That deodorant trick
Date: Jan 08 2007 11:47:10 AM
Author: Portal

On the subject of the deodorant trick mentioned in the article. What kind of deodorant are we talking about? A spray on? Roll on? Powder? Any particular brands or ingredients?



Subject: yeah right
Date: Sep 26 2006 05:59:24 AM
Author: guess

you don't have to be a whore to know that men are worthless scumbag shitholes who are actually the ones that come out on the bottom in this industry. losers...



Subject: lisa tenner
Date: Sep 15 2006 07:58:56 PM
Author: lisatenner

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Subject: lisa tenner
Date: Sep 15 2006 07:58:56 PM
Author: lisatenner

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Subject: hi
Date: Aug 10 2006 04:13:05 PM
Author: hello

you are my hero we are 14 and just started getting into buissness and your page has really helped us.



Subject: The Truth
Date: Jul 21 2006 12:45:30 PM
Author: 1411

This is amazingly true; all of it... But we should be lookin' at the example of knowledge-sharing, what humans were born to do, and LEARNING from it!



Subject: to portland whore
Date: Jul 08 2006 06:07:55 PM
Author: lalaland

the 3 lawyers i had went to jail.
luckily i was smart enough (smart?) not to let them drag me there too.
its a tiny balance between digusting and bearable , not to say fun.



Subject: Being a Whore
Date: Jul 05 2006 07:23:43 PM
Author: Antonio

In Brazil, the Ministry of Work has published a manual of how to be a whore.
It is a complete manual of how to become a whore.
To that knowing portuguese, the url is:

http://www.mtecbo.gov.br/busca/competencias.asp?codigo=5
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Have fun!



Subject: get a life
Date: Mar 03 2006 11:33:46 AM
Author: intelligent

lame.. why cant people just accept responsibility for their own lives and stop blaming society for everything



Subject: ego
Date: Feb 26 2006 10:00:30 PM
Author: portland whore

90% of this job is about stroking the trick's ego. I WISH there were more sex involved. When they can get it up, it lasts like 3 minutes max. The other 57 minutes of the hour consist of pretending to enjoy their incompenent oral manouvers- bad kissing, bad oral sex, dull conversation. The kissing bit may be particular to my region of the country. This is a bitch during cold season.
It's all about their ego, making an old fat guy feel like he still has it going on (he never did).
I can't even stand to see 50 year old white guys at the mall or whatever. They all look like tricks to me. They disgust me.
And my main clientel has been lawyers, I've never had to deal with any particulary creepy scene.



Subject: self
Date: Feb 25 2006 06:43:13 PM
Author: N.

All sensation is just that. sensation. Focusing
on it is like focusing on spring. It's wonderful,
but it never lasts. All of these words are meaningless. Why is it that people constantly assume that physical sensation is more relevent than the truth of emotional happiness and sadness. People will do anything but what they should do, because they do not realize that doing the opposite of a bad thing is not necessarily the same thing as doing a good thing. Thus all excuses are revealed as lies that we tell ourselves to avoid the hard work of personal responsibility and the difficult path of enlightenment.



Subject: whore dad
Date: Feb 02 2006 08:48:07 PM
Author: tim carr

I pay my dad to finger fuck me swiftly.



Subject: Angels and Humans and Whores
Date: Jan 11 2006 12:52:38 AM
Author: Drew

Makes me think. We use each other. That's the crime. And some people just have no sense of decency to other people. It's as simple as that. What happened to make them that way? Did someone beat them up in third grade? Did their Mom tell them to get lost? They only think of making themselves (temporarily) happy, and what they really want is for someone to jerk them off for a change. We need an implant that makes it impossible for our dicks to even work unless the other person wants us. Barring that, we settle for crap mechanical sex and humiliate ourselves in the process. This is the pathetic nature of mankind. The whore is pure witness to our humiliation for which she is paid a few twenties. Anyone ever tip a whore? Hey, that was good, thanks, here's an extra twenty. Imagine someone sucking your dick without caring? What does that make you? Trash. Oil up your own fist instead. Then try to love someone. For a change. You prefer to sit mindlessly at the TV jerking off your undeveloped reptilian brain. Whore as angel who knows us as we really are. Does a whore make love? There should be a national holiday to celebrate the whores who put up with us. And we should all buy them a nice drink and thank them. And apologize for the millions of scabrous losers the world sent to visit them. And someone should kiss them like they were when they were six years old. Anyway, this was thoughtful and sweet. Thanks. Some of those six year old girls will become your whores. I



Subject: Whoring
Date: Jan 09 2006 02:53:54 PM
Author: Kamchat

Witty and droll....you are far too good a writer to be a real whore! But very entertaining and informed.



Subject: Fuck Zhao
Date: Nov 29 2005 09:53:46 AM
Author: MYOB

I'm a whore/stripper and I have two degrees.

People's stereotypes are bullshit.



Subject: looking for whore to fu__
Date: Nov 02 2005 01:00:31 PM
Author: looking for sex

how do i find whores in portland or i would like to find some



Subject: Perfect World
Date: Oct 29 2005 04:26:14 AM
Author: webby

It sickens me to read comments of all the people that replied below who obviously just don't give a fuck! That's what's wrong with society! Sex for money should just be a business transaction between 2 people. It's a shame that all john's can't acknowledge the human element and conduct themselves with decency, courtesy & respect and leave out the degradation & abuse. It should be legalised so it can be regulated.



Subject: thanks again
Date: Jul 24 2005 06:39:22 AM
Author: thank you

I have a heart for people who didn't get a right start in life- whether it was poverty or abuse or whatever. I think anyone can benefit greatly from understanding that this type of work has elements of class struggle written all over it. Still- you can use your experiences to help others, legalization is the only thing that is going to stop all of the abuse and assault that goes along with this kind of work. There is not one fiber of me that believes that this kind of work is ever healthy for men or women, but no one deserves to be treated like that because of what they choose to do, or risk their life and health to do it. If society wants this service to be available to them, then there should be reasonable working conditions. My ultimate advice to anyone is get out- and help that cause. Your knowledge is so valuable. Do something good with it- please.



Subject: just like dad said when he fucked you
Date: Jun 12 2005 01:51:17 AM
Author: uhhhhhh

STFU MIJO



Subject: ahh
Date: May 23 2005 06:07:49 PM
Author: ahh

people who read this garbage need to be castrated



Subject: where can I find a pimp in Kentucky
Date: May 08 2005 03:20:04 PM
Author: hot male whore

I am a hot male who can't get enough dick I love to be gangbanged and love to suck and get fucked by as many as 25 in one night I am a crossdresser who would love to find someone to pimp me out you can email me at hotmalewhore@yahoo.com



Subject: cool life
Date: Apr 22 2005 10:58:51 AM
Author: lola

i cant help but at laugh at women that make a living out of being beaten senseless by huge rubbery half flaccid penises... im sure ur lives r very happy



Subject: PERSONAL CHOICE
Date: Apr 06 2005 12:20:43 PM
Author: al

Entertainment is what people want to buy, all forms of it, comedy to adult because entertainment is just that...something that makes a person simply, happy in a world of negativity. It is exactly a personal choice to what form of entertainment a person chooses to be satisfied or become the entertainer.



Subject: whores
Date: Apr 05 2005 05:26:16 PM
Author: Lisa

I've been a whore for my pimp now for 6 yrs. I love it. At first, I did it on my own. I made easily 200,000.00 in a yr., and, supported my children.
I adore my pimp, he keeps me working, and I like to 'work', if you want to call it work. My body is great, I 've been told I'm great at what I do, and, I'm not afraid of people knowing, except for my childrens sake. By the way, I am white, so is my pimp. It was MY idea for him to pimp me out. He controls me completely sexually, and the gangbangs are awesome! They do happen in real life, and, no, I'm not a 'trailer park' whore. Just some thoughts.



Subject: were do i sign up?
Date: Mar 15 2005 10:50:59 AM
Author: tony

were do i sign up?



Subject: at least
Date: Mar 15 2005 05:19:26 AM
Author: prick

At least women have the option to be whores.
Sure its a deal with the devil but at least its an option. What is mens equivilent for quick cash without any! qualifications or training? Selling drugs, I suppose.
And Yah! Waitress is a simile for whore. Or is that the other way around?



Subject: :(
Date: Mar 08 2005 08:33:55 PM
Author: jessica *

i think this is absolutely ridiculous.. if girls become whores to make money when they cant make it anywhere else.. at least give them respect for having the balls to know they need to find a way to make money.. especially the single mom's. but then again.. the cokeheads who are doin it to support your habit i dont support it at all.. i feel bad that u have to go through that kind of disrespect.. and a life with no one to love you.. but if ur a cokehead just trying to get throgh the day.. i say the next payment u get put it towards rehab hunny bc u need it. i never could do wat u guys do.. not that i want to.. but its a pretty big thing u get up everymorning to do.. i feel bad for u..



Subject: great article
Date: Feb 09 2005 08:32:36 PM
Author: bools

this is an absoulute amazing article. Thanks for the insite.



Subject: Holy @#$%
Date: Oct 16 2004 11:28:15 AM
Author: B.A; Dick

holy shit, just when I thought I knew it all--but really, how many guys pay a whore to eat their ass?



Subject: Fetal position backspins.
Date: Sep 19 2004 04:36:15 AM
Author: Lou Dobbs

You wrote an article for Vice Magazine, of course you have no consistant sense of social values when they're pending from issue to issue.

Your actions only reflect your construct, babyjuice face. Get some real conflict and stop complaining, those of us sweating making rent from month to month but still have our integrity in tact don't feel the least bit of sympathy for you.



Subject: the other side
Date: Sep 13 2004 04:14:28 PM
Author: teacher

this is sad. i hate that this cruelty exists.



Subject: this
Date: Aug 12 2004 04:22:26 PM
Author: phil's like....

holy shit.... ha ha ha ha



Subject: brava
Date: Jul 30 2004 11:22:30 PM
Author: SF intelectu-ho

god, vice never fails to amuse...have you read this week's article in the SF Weekly the Suicide Girls' traveling performance show ( they do some typically fake burlesque shit...surprised you didn't throw down about "the new burlesque" & all the whore-wannabe -ness about THAT set of blisters).

anyhow, I'm one of those wacky Lusty Lady girls (you know...the only worker-owned, unionized co-op in the world). While a large part of it is, yes, collegiate bullshit, there is a "genuine" sex work aspect to it. Not so much the naked dancing perhaps, but the fantasy booth, which involves bargining with stupid customers to try & get them to pay 20 to watch you masturbate behind a cum-smudged glass window.
there's a handful (so to speak) of us who do/have work (ed) as whores, myself included. Bully to the readers of your article, lady, but just so you know that we're not ALL writing dissertations on the implications of gender in the sex industry or whatever.. some of us are really just trying to support parents/kids/drug habits.
thanks for the entertaining piece..also quite amused by the dude who wrote about a whore being "trained" to write a la Vice...y'know, cuz whores, like, are really stupid! That's why we can get hundreds of dollars for an act that drunk executive assistants in Prada shoes perform for free in bathrooms across the barlands of NYC, SF, LA...the big secret is that the joke's on all of us.
Keep



Subject: another view
Date: Jun 12 2004 10:15:54 PM
Author: peruvian

I write this form afar. You can see the sex trade from two viewpoints: from one internal viewpoint (what do the girls, pimps, clients think about what they are doing), and from one external one (the sex trade as a trade: how much money is canvassed from rich or middle class men to girls from mostly poor background).

Most of the time we areinterested in the views of the sexual workers, no time for analysing the clients and the impact of the sex industry on the economy. I gess prostitution have a greater impact than ussually thought.

I´ll wanna talk about the matter with sexual workers or people who studied it

psicofactor@hotmail.com



Subject: gash rash
Date: Jun 25 2004 09:51:31 AM
Author: kitty

in response to the articles tip on deodorant and the responding letter in the next issue, you have to use POWDER deodorant not clear or gel stuff. that stuff will give you a disgusting rash.



Subject: I don’t expect most to understand
Date: Jun 24 2004 01:05:38 AM
Author: I speak in metaphor

I don’t expect most to understand, but for those that do……
How much truth can you take?
With whatever “label” it takes to objectify and obscure your own disconnect.
Life is a state of hunger; hunger causes blinding selfish pain seeking power.

Don’t fuck with Suicide Girls………..
Art, Free Expression or Experimentation……..
Politics, Gender, Blah, blah, blah....
You are no better.
Erotica is healthy, an expression of who we are as sexual creatures.

Sex is power? Money is power? If you buy into the illusion you won’t have either for long and its back to the forgetting dull drama……... the gerbil runs on the wheel………..
Power to control ourselves, not others……….

Find your happiness, by removing all “otherness”, finding the seed of your creation, it is the key to your productivity and renewed faith in humanity, if you contribute your gifts you will be rewarded. Each being is born to be a garden. Whatever, i'm finished.



Subject: wow
Date: Jun 14 2004 06:31:58 PM
Author: ali

this article was really good and the tip about deoderant on the bikini line actually works



Subject: one size fits all
Date: Jun 07 2004 02:53:21 PM
Author: jaytee

Well written and wildly one sided. Seldom seen such venom and bitterness, but the mistake is to assume everyone else has those attitudes and experiences. I've known hundreds of stippers and providers, and few used coke or were burned out. Which doesn't invalidate these experiencres



Subject: coke +clientel =$$$
Date: May 28 2004 09:45:20 AM
Author: alexandra

I agree whore heartlessly,that our crack smoking johns are a cash grab.Its like fucking Christmas for myself and my dealer boyfriend.CHACHING along with getting paid by the hour.I am able to earn a supplementry income. An aditional hourly rate c/o john provides,The Crack Whore Convenience Store the opportunity to pass the whole sale prices straight to me.John pays double and shares the goods.Its a WIN! WIN!.Myself&johnboy are ready to spend some quality detachement time.In conclusion as a Ho-esthic if it wasnt for my mannipulation of everything I see,taste,touch and hear.I might give a fuck instead of charging for it.



Subject: suicide beeyotches
Date: May 26 2004 06:51:00 AM
Author: shintriad

I got banned from suicidegirls.com because I thought they were supposed to literally commit suicide.

Oh, like I'm the ONLY guy with a fetish for dead chicks?! Gimme a break.



Subject: ice
Date: May 24 2004 03:52:39 PM
Author: fire

flavored condoms help with the blowjobs. great article.



Subject: Horrid
Date: May 24 2004 02:00:38 PM
Author: Brit_tart

I'm a whore and i want to scratch my own skin off.

Fuck you pro-whoring feminist idiot women, you aint got a clue.

This is the worst job in the world



Subject: applause!!
Date: May 23 2004 05:03:19 PM
Author: Darcy

I am an active Ffeminist, and what I saw in your article was an affirmation to my work and existence. Here you prove without a doubt that the "oldest Profession," exists because people struggle with power so much so that they will pay to humilate others. It's really the Johns and the pimps that need severe therapy. Kassandra, the article was engaging and full of perspective, a voice we almost never hear.

Don't ever apply to work at McDonald's. Anyone who can do math can figure out that minimum wage does not support anybody. Get in touch with a career counselor, apply to schools, release yourself from the fake tits . . .we need people like you in the world! If you haven't gotten out from under the covers yet please do so, because the minute you find yourself in a work environment that is not dangerous or degrading, your open the door for all the people who didn't think it was possible

I don't think people are losers, I think they are just very lost.



Subject: re: werd.
Date: May 21 2004 03:19:50 PM
Author: NYC girl

I was never sexually abused as a child....so what made me do it?

I think there are lot's of women who do it just for the crazy adventure at first, and then stay there for the money...which isn't all that great considering what you're doing.

Reminder: You have to go sort through endless emails (after you have posted your ad for the night on craig's list) and then respond to them and then get the guys to commit to a meeting (there are a lot of bogus inquiries or guys who are like "I'll give you $50 for anal" - fuck off). By the time you have lined up 3 appointments for the night, you have spent countless hours on the computer and then you need to pay a taxi and sometimes you get stood up....overall it doesn't work out to too much money an hour.



Subject: werd.
Date: May 21 2004 03:18:59 PM
Author: NYC girl

I used to do this shit on craig's list and I gotta tell you - it really isn't too bad at first. But then your standards start slipping and you start getting into wierder and wierder scenarios. Keep your rates at $250 or more and you won't be too bad off...

An interesting fact...almost every single guy I ever got $ off of for this was in finance. So if you plan on ever being a stockbroker/trader/M&A/venture capital person or anything like it...don't be a whore in NYC...you'll run into one of your Johns in the office one day.



Subject: Hmmm
Date: May 13 2004 09:19:08 PM
Author: A.F. in L.A.

Good article. All of it pretty accurate. I did the 'stripping for empowerment' thing for a while, but it all gets skanky before very long.
True too...civilians CAN'T know: makes them turn wierd.
LEGALIZE IT.



Subject: almost there
Date: May 12 2004 04:34:40 PM
Author: visual

well this article does it all. i mean it sounds so true and if it is i'm no where there. guess i better pick up the dick i mean pase



Subject: i want to do that
Date: May 11 2004 10:33:11 AM
Author: cooke

I would like to know who have to talk to.
Or whats the name of the web page.
thank you!



Subject: HOT TOPIKKK
Date: May 05 2004 03:30:28 PM
Author: youth

VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE. DEFINITELY INFORMATIVE & ENTERTAINING.



Subject: the sex trade and involuntary celibacy
Date: May 04 2004 02:37:46 PM
Author: L.B

This article does disturb me. I guess because I have consumed the sex trade now and then and admittingly am loath to give it up.
My problem is I’m a male over 25 and still a virgin (technically, anyway). Never even kissed a girl. Haven’t even been on too many real dates. Especially being a male this is quite tough on me. I’m not talking about the supposed “disgrace” of it all, meaning the whole male ego thing, but sheer frustration itself, the unsatisfied longing. As you might have guessed, having such a defunct dating/sex life might have at least in part, led me to satiate my erotic cravings in less … um …. conventional ways, for lack of better words. I have paid for the services of prostitutes a few times. (I didn’t really “go all the way” with them, just some lap-dance and fetish stuff, hence the technical virginity) Although I don’t really intend to pay for “going all the way” yet, I think I will do so if I hit 30 and still cannot get a girl. I have heard arguments not only supporting the anti-sex-trade arguement, but opposing it, and as such I was not totally convinced...or maybe I don’t wanna be. But on the other hand there's my revulsion…terror, even… at the idea of never paying for so much as a lapdance, especially given the ever growing possibility that I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, get the sexual contact I so desperately yearn for any other way. I feel as if I don’t even know if I CAN choose lifelong, unwelcome, celibacy over prostitution.



Subject: sweet smart girl
Date: May 04 2004 03:51:18 AM
Author: kiddmo

well fuck all the fuckers who should die for having no soul. I know this ho and shes one of the sweetest beings I know. Sooooooo suck your rich parents ass for tuition to some shitty university, Ya'll Stank.
Great article! I think most people should wake up and realize that their lives are not happening on TV. Also we could all work to change ourselves for the better, that's revolution. Dicks who think they are pimps when they clearly are not should shuzzle the muzzle. dicks. You don't carry a gun or have gold teeth so try some love, OK? You wouldn't last one day in this girls shoes.



Subject: whoring is the epitome of a job
Date: May 04 2004 02:15:49 AM
Author: john

When we work we are all essentially whores. We're all selling our bodies. We are all participating in the commodification of human life. Whores just have the chutzpah to say fuck it and go hardcore. The rest of us are just half assing it or kidding ourselves. If they spurn the yoke of social mores that forbids it then good for them.



Subject: just curious and a blowjob
Date: May 03 2004 03:01:47 PM
Author: lawrence01

i can't make my mind paying for sex , can i deal cookies? or is it just a coke thing



Subject: Come under my rainbow.
Date: May 03 2004 12:56:47 PM
Author: JellyBean

"Come under my rainbow" was the funniest thing I could think of quick. Some hippy welcoming "fallen" women to just think happy thoughts.

Paid-for-sex is just too dangerous to be fun anymore, for either side.

Urethera. Not fuckable unless you are... small, very small.

If anyone seriously uses Vice for career advice... you may want to skip a month.

Google Images for SuicideGirls or Suicide Girls. You will see some te-yats, be-yatch.

Hello UK. Dallas, TX Yee-haw and all.






Subject: Me.
Date: May 03 2004 03:26:47 AM
Author: Fucking God.

Story of my life.



Subject: snore...
Date: May 03 2004 02:29:56 AM
Author: meepo

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz



Subject: abuse
Date: May 02 2004 10:48:36 PM
Author: 2manyhalfwits

i was sexually abused as a kid. does that make me a bad person... i was a lesbian, i gave that up, the sex was boring... i know... ill become a whore. see you in the cross.



Subject: Why the fuck...
Date: May 01 2004 06:16:21 PM
Author: Confuzzled

...aren't females allowed to enjoy sex?! As a nympho whore I walk with $300/hour to have numerous orgasms every day and make helpless losers beam with pride at getting the juice flowing. Who am I hurting? Mumsy and daddy would cry themselves to death if they ever found out, but in the meantime I've been living the good life of drugs, sex, and money; exploring the world as an International Escort (who was never abused by a relative).

Ho ho ho... "Me love you long time!"



Subject: doomfuk
Date: May 01 2004 12:41:21 PM
Author: amerikanski

das is gut. dere is also rich fella vants to do it on de chandelier. or mebe small boats while sink in vater.



Subject: Information, of course
Date: Apr 30 2004 01:31:55 AM
Author: Information Consultant

This information was compiled by experts. A truly expert alphabet, this is.



Subject: maybe
Date: Apr 28 2004 08:47:34 PM
Author: d.b.

The reason why people do sex work is because they were fucked as kids and are used to disgusting humiliating sex. It?s not capitalism or no minimum wage jobs. They just recreate the kind of sickening disgusting sexual situations they know and loved as children but as adults with something they never got as children: validation that they have done something good and are therefore good people through the act of getting paid. People do sex work because it?s nostalgic of the ultimate bummer and they like that secretly. they are like hi bred uber humans that can do anything because nothing will be as sucky as what they have already been through, but they usually just choose to waste all that on getting paid to feel like garbage for a living, it?s just easier. It?s called the garbage effect.



Subject: 2
Date: Apr 28 2004 06:57:24 PM
Author: 1

Is it that fucking hard to get a minimum wage job?



Subject: continued
Date: Apr 28 2004 11:27:02 AM
Author: Seven Edward: 7 l'americain

Hey to everyone who takes cruel shots at other writers: reflect a bit. --Advocates of capitalism, don't try to blame "lazy left wing thinking that's been fucking up western society for the last 30 or so years..." You're using lazy thinking blaming leftists for society's ills. I believe each person should take charge of their own life, as many people do, but each is more likely to succeed in what they want when they live in a society (a nation) with easy access to education and other opportunities and where there is no threat to their freedom, such as war or dictators. A society does reflect how its government chooses to spend its money and effort. I come from the US, which happens to spend over 400 Billion bucks on National Defense. I wish they would switch that with the Education budget of about 50 billion.

Communists, you too would do well to stop blaming a single class of people, as well as advocating for violent revolution. I assume most people writing live in "First World" countries with a general Freedom of Expression. What I say is Use It. Think, question, vote, write, march. Change the media. Expose how BS commercial (Viacom, TimeWarner, Rupert Murdoch's News) media is, and challenge people to question what they read or watch. And VOTE! Students and young people especially!

Enjoy life, think hard about what the right thing is, & do it. Organic farming probably can't hurt anyone. ......Heart, Sept Edouard



Subject: Abuse, communism; blame
Date: Apr 28 2004 11:15:06 AM
Author: Seven Edward:7 l'americain

About sexual abuse: it is all too common and has been in most parts of the world for all of history. There are things we can do to help each other, in both healing those abused and preventing further abuse. One big thing, sexual assault is a man's issue first. Abusers are often men and therefore men can help prevent sexual abuse. We need to raise healthy sons and daughters, as well as fostering healthy loving relationships between boys, young men and men, as well as between young people of both sexes. I'm not talking about sex between them, but rather communication and good role models for males growing up and in general in any society. Of course, the same kind of attention should be paid to raising healthy females, but I am coming at the issue of sexual abuse as men taking responsibility for helping to prevent sexual abuse.

And love your friends and neighbors. And drink delicious coffees and teas and wines and enjoy life. And laugh. Man, do I love being full after a good meal. I guess I have a lot of things to say. Just throwing out suggestions for making things better.

Love,
my alias above



Subject: trick betta have my money
Date: Apr 27 2004 10:36:19 PM
Author: Get a fuckin life

this is the funniest fucking thing i have ever seen in my whole life , a ten dolla ho bitch like she's worth fifty! hell someone slap dat ho



Subject: Can't say it's done me any harm
Date: Apr 27 2004 07:22:24 PM
Author: Sunni-Tara

or my bank balance either :-)

Sure my Dad would have fucked me if I'd been able to find him to ask him, but sadly I never did so I guess I'll hate all men forever . Eventually. Maybe

Hey Angie ;-)

PS Please note no services without protection. No drugs. No parties and no arsewipes need apply . So that's most of you lot turned down by a ho then



Subject: the ay dapper
Date: Apr 27 2004 01:52:27 PM
Author: jack the rapper

fuck all you yanks, whoring started in england we build that motherfucker, pros in england work twice as hard as hoes in us i see them kerb standin for time down my ends and to them a wet one is gettin jizzed by about 50 albanian refugeesw (there everywhere over here).
C.O.V stand up.
Trendy tony n gay lovin TOSSERS



Subject: continues
Date: Apr 27 2004 10:15:33 AM
Author: A uk whore

Some days im pretty suicidal. Other days when the money is coming in im ok. The money makes up for the gutter trash that I feel like. I feel totally used abused and worthless. I feel as though im the worst thing that god has created. I look in the mirror and see a wasted life. Someone who could have been someone. I dont blame my parents or grandparents for what ive allowed myself to become because I could have done anything. I have got a brain but my brutal childhood sort of overtook my thoughts and i crossed that barrier. Once id done it that was it! I long for the day when I can look in the mirror and not be totally disgusted at myself. I stand in supermarket queues sometimes and long to be the checkout girl doing her mundane tasks. Maybe I will do that one day. Just do a menial job and live a simple life. I will never ever allow another man to violate me again. I will become celibate and never allow a man anywhere near me.



Subject: Excellent article
Date: Apr 27 2004 09:43:03 AM
Author: A uk whore

Incredibly well written and full of humour. Most of it is very much a reality. However, some of it was a little OTT.

I've worked as a whore for over 12 years, and was fucked by my grandad when I was 11, not my dad, but I suppose its the same thing - if not worse. My mother battered me and called me a whore from the age of 6.

When I get out of this business (I'm sure I will eventually,) I'm going to seek councelling for my past life and get some self respect. I wont tell a soul about my past life (apart from my counsellor)

As a whore, I hate myself more and more with each dirty mother fucker who comes to use my body. The money I make is carefully saved. To come out of this industry without money would be even more hell than the many cocks of those dirty, low life scum i've sucked.

If I could kill, I'd kill every man that has come to violate my body. I know I invite them, but that doesn't stop me wanting them dead.

I hate men. Every man I see makes me want to slice his balls off and make him eat them. I've almost become a pervert as I watch them lick me out, I'm uttering things like, "you dirty, little bastard - having to pay ME to lick my pussy - YOU SCUM! while all the time pretending to enjoy it and looking at the men as though they are a nice strawberry ice cream.




Subject: Top Site, Excellent Article But.....
Date: Apr 27 2004 09:39:04 AM
Author: Angie Riley



Some of US Whores do GangBang and Make a Fucking Good Living out of IT!

xxxxx
www.angie4sex.com

PS. Hi Sunni :-)



Subject: seriously
Date: Apr 26 2004 01:51:28 PM
Author: chicago

Seriously...
I know this is the place for snide sniping and adolescent posturing, but I gotta say -
you seem way too smart and cool and self aware to still be in the game, if you are. Here's hoping you can stop hating yourself. Cheers.



Subject: safista-crunk whoresssss
Date: Apr 26 2004 07:45:31 AM
Author: big c

ya'll fucking poop-dick canadians gotta get fucked somehow, eh? CANADA IS A BURNT BITCH!



Subject: hahaha
Date: Apr 25 2004 02:44:13 PM
Author: haha

i'm glad someone else realizes how sad the attention whores at suicidegirls are.




Subject: ugh
Date: Apr 25 2004 02:43:59 PM
Author: shut the fuck up

People who complain about this article are just horny men who are angry that this might turn little girls off from being strippers.




Subject: hmm
Date: Apr 25 2004 12:33:28 AM
Author: reg choy

boo fucking hoo

should have studied harder in high school




Subject: the nizzle
Date: Apr 24 2004 01:55:26 AM
Author: rancid

i had a dream i was a vigilante sidekick, my name is niz i'm a lesser known character.



Subject: coked up luke skywalker
Date: Apr 24 2004 12:21:29 AM
Author: the nizzle

Please don't remove my posts. I live in Vancouver, BC CANADA, and smoke a lot of marijuana. I would be very sad for me if you deleted my entire day's work.

Thank you
N.



Subject: Last comment
Date: Apr 23 2004 11:59:15 PM
Author: The Nizzle

Sorry laura,babe. Though i'm certain that you are very well educated compared to the other girls in your industry, i'm afraid you're too dumb for this one. Your grammatical error could have been fixed with a simple word. (ONE WORD, get it?)



-THIS is what you wrote: "suicide girls doesn't consider themselves porn"



-THIS is what you could have written: " SUICIDEGIRLS DOESN'T CONSIDER ITSELF
PORN."


OK, now you probably don't spot the difference right away... let me help. Please count words until you get to the 4th word. "THEMSELVES" should be replaced with "ITSELF." You dig?

Damn! You whores are DUMB.



Subject: to dexter
Date: Apr 23 2004 08:23:21 PM
Author: laura

hey dumbass. there isn't a single thing wrong with my sentence structure. "suicide girls doesn't consider themselves porn" = suicidegirls.com, the website, being referred to as a single thing, is not considered porn, to any of it's staff or members.

is that better? :)

if you're going to try to be a dick, at least be correct about it.



Subject: hah!
Date: Apr 23 2004 07:46:33 PM
Author: exspes

I had to bust out the lollerskates for this one.

Then I fell down, and my roommate had to call me a roflcopter to the hospital.



Subject: Thanks
Date: Apr 23 2004 06:08:15 PM
Author: Me

I'm always shocked by the often violent defense the sex industry gets from people of all idealogical affiliations. HELLO! Annie Sprinkle and Carol Queen are very damaged people who are PAID to use their verbal jujitsu and talk about it being a "sacred service". Suicide girls is nothing radical. It's still jacking off to holes that never say no, however pierced and "liberated" these holes are. People need to stop glamorizing and rationalizing sex work and actually imagine what it would be liked to be fucked by people who think you exist to service them.

1)http://www.echonyc.com/~onissues/s96orgasm.html

2)http://www.feminista.com/issues/article.php?type=essay
&number=6&v=6&n=1



Subject: DAMN RIGHTS!
Date: Apr 23 2004 05:27:46 PM
Author: the nizzle

So get this, on several occasions I've found myself in heated discussions with "civilians" on weather or not ONLY DRUG ADDICTS PROSTITE THEMSELVES!!!
(I'll admit, it's one of those controversial-asshole theories... much like the ol ' Beaten By Dad That's Why Your An Alcoholic, or my personal fave: the All Gay People Were Molested As Children)

Some folks are naive & oblivious trying to seem OPEN-MINDED (re: sex trade issues) I have heard, "... it wouldn't be SO bad to be a whore! A lot of girls do it to get through UNVIVERSITY" <--who the fuck told them THAT? ... or ,even better, "Getting this kind of attention helps girls get more self esteem" <--a guy sitting alone at a strip-club told me this. Thanks, buddy.

I'm like, DUDES! It's called: C-O-C-A-I-N-E (and crack, and jib and H. and ecstasy and soooo much more) Am I fucking right? Or am I just really SHALLOW for assuming that only someone desperate (to escape or to fix) would do this ?

I have nothing against drug users ... I realise that one can attend college or uni AND be a drug addict at the same time... My POINT is it's highly unlikely that any ho' s are hoeing JUST to pay for goddam tuition. (DAMN,why don’t you just drop out of school, girl, ain’t worth it to be a dental assistant!)



Subject: whoring
Date: Apr 23 2004 05:04:29 PM
Author: Pee Wee

Theres nothing like a bitch who thinks she knows it all! Go screw your dad, ya dumb ass.



Subject: Fuckin wahhhhhhh
Date: Apr 23 2004 10:34:45 AM
Author: Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

Jeeez, what a stupid man hating cunt rag. Don't wanna whore? Get a real job. McDonalds is always hiring. Not my fault your daddy fucked you. Get therapy and stop acting out. Stop with the leftist, feminist, porn is bad garbage.



Subject: In demand
Date: Apr 22 2004 11:11:59 PM
Author: jobo

Im still excited about the prospect of seeing the vice guide to shaving your balls. Now there's a task we could all use a little advice on.



Subject: job
Date: Apr 22 2004 07:01:17 PM
Author: JJ

Forget McDonald's, the author of this should be a writer. Doesn't make as much as whoring (unless you're um, Dave Eggers?) but at least it's something she'd be good at.



Subject: stupid
Date: Apr 22 2004 05:18:10 PM
Author: piece of crap

this article was, like every other article in this issue, a stupid piece of crap. It was way too long, and way to Vice. STUPID. Jobs issue? Yeah, whores and jizz moppers, get it? get it? We're alternative!!!



Subject: ...
Date: Apr 22 2004 11:14:43 AM
Author: me

o_O



Subject: two cents..really....
Date: Apr 21 2004 10:31:00 PM
Author: a

nicely written and very much a picture of reality. I have lived in both the US and Africa and have seen both ends of human suffering. true that i have a better life than the average 20 yr old in states and never felt the desperation that drives people over the edge where the concept of degradation doesn't exist but still i feel.. for the "victims". the victims are the same in every socio-econimoic structure.. namely.. the poor, the molested, the deprived.

i once interviewed a prostitute for a school paper and beneath the crusted make-up was the face of a poor deprived human being who is a constant victim of the culture of vultures... capitalism.

is full blown communism the answer? human beings cant handle whne given central authority... they get too drunk with power and eventually screw up. stalin-era russia anyone?

in a nut shell.... people just have to turn nice and share. the culture of vultures could be used as a good instead of an evil. just once realization sinks in that freedom is not freedom... the term a "free democracy" is an oxymoron.

naive? yes.. but hard to comprehend.



Subject: word association
Date: Apr 21 2004 08:01:30 PM
Author: ho-gasm

I'll never look at a MacDonald's straw in the same way again



Subject: heavy
Date: Apr 21 2004 07:51:18 PM
Author: Dodo

This is an amazing piece. It's amazing if it is really written by a whore and equally amazing if a Vice writer happened to pull it together through research. Write a book! Take my advice. People will buy it.



Subject: sophie
Date: Apr 21 2004 06:21:28 PM
Author: that's only part of it

Okay, so there are plenty of times when whores get fucked over (no pun intended) while working, but you're focussing on the worst aspects of the industry. Personally, I don't think I'm empowered or a feminist because of my job, it's just a job. The same way that an accountant punches a clock, I punch a clock. I've got regular hours, regular clients, and a set price list. The problem is that you're working for agencies and pimps, you're not freelancing. When you're your own madam, it's one Hell of a lot better. Most girls start out in massage parlours and shit like that, but you can always go solo.



Subject: saddened
Date: Apr 21 2004 04:49:06 PM
Author: okay

I honestly think this article impacted me more than anything i've ever read. It is fucking disturbing. I just don't understand why making money has come to this extreme. Why do people feel the need to degrate themselves to this level to make a quick buck? I understand that shitty things happen to people emotionally, such as "father fucking", but even if you have issues, aren't there other ways to deal with them? I don't know, maybe I'm just naive. Kasandra, I honestly just want to give you a big hug and tell you everything is okay...I'm sure that's all you need. Isn't it better to work at McDonald's and date a civilian boy who loves you, than to go through all of this shit? Let me know...



Subject: comments are all F-ed up
Date: Apr 21 2004 11:58:55 AM
Author: Franky

What is going on with the weird censoring of the comments section? I am apparently not allowed to use quotation marks or apostrophes as those trigger some message about using banned words.



Subject: SG
Date: Apr 21 2004 11:54:46 AM
Author: Franky

I saw some scrawny douchebag in a Suicide Girls hoodie yesterday. I think he should have just written on a t-shirt: I look at naked girls on the internet. It would have saved him fifty bucks.



Subject: whores
Date: Apr 21 2004 06:21:56 AM
Author: seb cox

Men make the best whores http://www.cumm.co.uk



Subject: how to right an article for vice
Date: Apr 20 2004 01:41:04 AM
Author: vice

whores are the new indians, ass is the new pussy, this is the new fucking that. coke, coke, coke, COKE, fucking coke dude!!!



Subject: old spice
Date: Apr 20 2004 01:40:40 AM
Author: tommy

dudes, what if you already have some ingrown hair? i need a vice guild to shaving my balls ok



Subject: timothy is right
Date: Apr 19 2004 10:49:16 AM
Author: fresco

timothy is right about the capital gains and ashton kutcher shit... right on brother... dem all hos.....



Subject: thankyou thank you thank you
Date: Apr 18 2004 09:52:19 PM
Author: Kim

thanks for the deodorant tip. it really works. i am now going to be a true shaved Caucasian. belly up to the bar boys!



Subject: zhao
Date: Apr 18 2004 12:53:17 PM
Author: respect

Respect.



Subject: man
Date: Apr 17 2004 08:27:20 AM
Author: no

but silver oxidizes



Subject: I'm with Zhao
Date: Apr 16 2004 04:56:48 PM
Author: Moges

This is a bit, right?



Subject: thanks
Date: Apr 15 2004 09:40:20 PM
Author: Suicide Girl

Thanks for devoting a whole letter of the alphabet to us.



Subject: how to live
Date: Apr 15 2004 02:15:32 PM
Author: joshua

learn economics (austrian), stop paying taxes, stop voting, buy a gun, move to a small town in an empty state, integrate yourself into the life of that town, work to change from federal reserve notes to actual money (silver), learn how to love, have many children, your decendants will heal the world.

http://www.lewrockwell.com
http://www.mises.org
http://www.norfed.com



Subject: ..
Date: Apr 15 2004 01:51:31 PM
Author: http://www.suicidegirls.com

u're sad.
but now i know how can i prevent my ingron hair.

so fuck u retarded and tnx



Subject: i agree, we're all whores. and losers.
Date: Apr 15 2004 10:20:55 AM
Author: flapjack

awesome article. real deal.

strippers are rad, they dance and walk and shimmy around in them crazy high heels like they're they're wearing goddamn keds.



Subject: to 'laura'
Date: Apr 15 2004 10:04:22 AM
Author: dexter

"nice article! even though suicide girls doesn't consider themselves porn. we're pin up girls"

suicide girls are also dumbasses who can't use basic grammar or write a complete sentence. good luck w/life after your early 20s are up and your pasty white ass begins to sag.



Subject: to the author "slaves"
Date: Apr 15 2004 08:06:34 AM
Author: you die

shut your fucking pie trap you stupid dick. nobody wants to read all that bullshit



Subject: slavelover
Date: Apr 15 2004 06:56:55 AM
Author: james

respect to whores who put up w/crazy shit. bullshit call to wannabes like suicide girls. lame name, lamer chicks who don't want to admit they need attention that badly.

cool article.



Subject: suicide girls are fucking retarded
Date: Apr 15 2004 06:35:33 AM
Author: scooter

gimme a break--a bunch of fucking wannabe 'cutting-edge' tough-yet-sexies; empowerment my fucking ass. they want their 15 minutes of mini-fame of public exposure, but they won't actually go to bat and do/be something more interesting than have half-assed skinshows of 'alternativeness'--a piercing here, tattoo there. big fucking deal. and their musings are about as fascinating as a pap smear sample at the local planned parenthood.

i'll take hustler or your average tough-ass, hard-bitten, beentheredoneTHAT stripper anyday!



Subject: we are all
Date: Apr 14 2004 11:06:54 PM
Author: slaves

"the first step towards freedom is realising that you are a slave"

we have no choice but to spend the majority of our time working, with no time for ourselves, estranged from eachother. and even our desires are decided for us. there is so much that we do not question, because we are made to believe that it is the natural or only way to live. Society (especially in USA) wants us to think we are "free", and that is the most insidious prison of all. (free to do what? choose between Coke and Pepsi?)

the biggest problem with psychiatry is that it blames the individual for society's ills. and society is very very ill. Psychiatry makes us think there is something wrong with us if we are not as happy as people in TV commcials look. and the Psychiatric industry has grown 100 times since 20 years ago.

It is not a matter of blaming others for one's own problems, but a matter of seeing, in a bigger scale, how our lives are dictated by these invisible power structures. Reality is a lot scarier than the Matrix.

P.S. and ofcourse the bastardised versions of communism is not the answer. I never said that.



Subject: Communism
Date: Apr 14 2004 05:13:18 PM
Author: Cat man

Damn; sorry about that I let my cat post those last two. He said he was going to bitch about the deodorant trick. I just wanted to say that you don’t need to violently revolt to get to wonderful communism. All you have to do is go to North Korea like me and live in paradise forever. I got me some kim chee right now. You did a great job K.



Subject: no ert
Date: Apr 14 2004 05:49:36 PM
Author: narco cruiser

I often wish I was a Japanese businessman



Subject: zhao's post
Date: Apr 14 2004 01:06:27 PM
Author: me

"capitalism makes people lonely. because when you are lonely you buy more stuff. turning basic human needs into an artificially rare commodity is so absurd and sick on such a basic level that Karl Marx and Theodore Adorno can't even do it justice with book shelves worth of theory. People are not losers. we are victims."

You fucking commie. You can't classify adults as victims, 'cause then you start getting into all that "Oh it's not my fault it's society/my parents/the government's fault" bullshit, and that's the kind of lazy left wing thinking that's been fucking up western society for the last 30 or so years. If you start to think of your self as a victim rather than an individual with choices and responsibilities, then watch your life go down the toilet very fast.



Subject: whoring is cool
Date: Apr 14 2004 10:26:46 AM
Author: doo doo

haha i just got back from a john's house. no joke. i got 100 my first time. this time though it was 300. i was there for a really long time. he was fuckin HOT too. damn. being a whore is alright i guess. it pays for me to live a lifestyle that i'd otherwise not have, keeps me in expensive clothes and nice perfume. i'm not a cokehead though. i'll do it if a john offers it to me not as part of my fee, but i've never purchased coke personally. and i was never fucked by my dad. i love my dad and he's my best friend even though he thinks i'm a secretary and doesn't know i smoke.

whoring is cool.



Subject: this article?
Date: Apr 14 2004 09:21:35 AM
Author: nightstick

didn't even make me think about smiling
this is the limpest thing i've ever read in vice
god



Subject: My Black Eye Fetish
Date: Apr 13 2004 11:54:15 PM
Author: blowcaine

This was thoroughly enjoyable to read. I don't care what anyone says, Vice Guides are neat.



Subject: honesty in motion
Date: Apr 13 2004 06:59:06 PM
Author: josh fenderman

Whenever I hear goodbyes, remind me baby of you
I break down and cry, next time I'll be true, yeah
Fever for lost romance remind me baby of you
I took a crazy chance
Next time I'll be true, I'll be true, I'll be true
Footsteps on the dance floor remind me baby of you
Teardrops in my eyes, next time I'll be true, yeah
Whispers in the powder room
"She cries on every tune, every tune, every tune"

When I'm dancin' 'round, remind me baby of you
I really let you down, next time I'll be true, yeah
I took a crazy chance
"She cries on every tune, every tune, every tune"

Footsteps on the dance floor remind me baby of you
Teardrops in my eyes, next time I'll be true, yeah
Whispers in the powder room
"She cries on every tune, every tune, every tune"

And the music don't feel like it did when I felt it with you
Nothing that I do or feel ever feels like I felt it with you

Hurting deep inside, she cries on every tune
I break down and cry
"She cries on every tune, every tune, every tune"

Footsteps on the dance floor remind me baby of you
Teardrops in my eyes, next time I'll be true, yeah
Whispers in the powder room
"She cries on every tune, every tune, every tune"

(REPEAT TO FADE)



Subject: from http://suicidegirls.com
Date: Apr 13 2004 04:42:40 PM
Author: Timothy

"SuicideGirls are unique, strong, sexy and confident women."

"Just from being featured on SuicideGirls, girls have been hired to appear in music videos, tv shows, radio shows, film and music festivals, fashion shows, countless magazines and advertising campaigns."

I guess..because this is what strong, sexy and confident women aspire to do......

Hence the term "suicidegirls".









Subject: suicide girls
Date: Apr 13 2004 04:24:46 PM
Author: ang

do a fucking google search you retards.



Subject: Happy Endings
Date: Apr 13 2004 03:30:22 PM
Author: Yank my Tug

Are Asian/Latin/Russian massage girls all sex slaves? btw I pay no more than 40 bones for a tug in CA.



Subject: now i need to know
Date: Apr 13 2004 03:16:46 PM
Author: ??

what is a suicide girl???

someone else asked...no response...

it's gonna drive me fuckin crazy....god damnit!



Subject: .
Date: Apr 13 2004 01:45:48 PM
Author: j

funny article , but what the fuck is a Suicide Girl ?!



Subject: sg - not porn. sorry.
Date: Apr 13 2004 01:42:14 PM
Author: laura

nice article! even though suicide girls doesn't consider themselves porn. we're pin up girls.



Subject: above artical
Date: Apr 13 2004 01:31:10 PM
Author: lurch

At the end of the day,it's down to the ladies and gentlemen whether they join the sex industry,they may well get abuse from lots of different areas,but they made the choice,so they either live with it or get out of the industry,the choice is theirs.



Subject: how we live
Date: Apr 13 2004 11:04:44 AM
Author: Ulrich Meinhoff

good point Timothy. we have all been made into parodies of life. we are all miserable and lonely, the rich and the poor alike.

if you have a soul, and if you think about it long enough and hard enough, there is no other alternative but total and complete revolution. and one of the first steps to bring about complete social renewal and change just may be violence on a massive scale.

not just from this article but from ALL the fucking bullshit that is happening right now, environmental ruin so close that you can see your grand kids dying of starvation; war for greed; etc, etc, I am THIS fucking close to going Taxi Driver. but on a more organized bigger scale...



Subject: sdf
Date: Apr 13 2004 08:39:50 AM
Author: sdf

isn't NCCC-1777 the Enterprise?



Subject: .
Date: Apr 13 2004 05:33:34 AM
Author: ang

are you from portland?



Subject: ...
Date: Apr 13 2004 04:41:54 AM
Author: Kasandra

i wrote this article all by myself and i am a real live whore! whores can do lots of other stuff besides fuck. crazy!!! by the way in response to the comment about the slave girls from the ukraine, the ukraine isn't the only place where children are sold into child prostitution. most of these operations are run by bad people who also specialize in child pornography, hired killing and drug running. (which includes cocaine) i have worked with girls who were sold into child prostitution and weren't lucky enough to die from getting raped. i always made sure they got the biggest line. and deodarant works rad.



Subject: wow
Date: Apr 13 2004 03:54:06 AM
Author: gapink

i must say that this article changed my life... before this i thought whoreing was all fun and games... you changed my life



Subject: .
Date: Apr 13 2004 03:45:38 AM
Author: Timothy

dont think that your dreams of Ashton Kutcher sucking your little nipples.....or some rich fuck blowing his capital gains on your ring finger are somehow more noble and fulfilling.....

we are all a bunch of fucking whores.



Subject: fuck u canada
Date: Apr 13 2004 02:08:37 AM
Author: grillfoot

Adorno can lick my fucking bag Jack

i killed adorno with my bare fuckin hands, cut off his head and pissed down his throat.



Subject: ingrown hairs
Date: Apr 13 2004 01:40:16 AM
Author: ??

is that thing about deodorant working better than tend skin true? if it is true, i've been cheated by my esthtician.



Subject: ho down
Date: Apr 13 2004 12:32:56 AM
Author: Leah

crap, and i thought stripping was shite






Subject: www.suprfukr.com
Date: Apr 13 2004 12:07:09 AM
Author: Marco R

yeh my clothing line SUPERFUCKER, when i really think about what it means to be a super fucker i dont know it seems as though Ive got some super catching up to do what do you think www.suprfukr.com maby more piss and shit every where. hey hore lady who supposedly wrote this can i sponser you?how fucking american of me and im mexican to boot/!! geez...



Subject: capitalism
Date: Apr 12 2004 11:24:05 PM
Author: zhao

capitalism makes people lonely. because when you are lonely you buy more stuff. turning basic human needs into an artificially rare commodity is so absurd and sick on such a basic level that Karl Marx and Theodore Adorno can't even do it justice with book shelves worth of theory.

People are not losers. we are victims.



Subject: .
Date: Apr 12 2004 11:03:21 PM
Author: ang

any slut who thinks the sex industry is 'empowering' needs a bullet up the twat.

and also...

once we become desensitized to anal, what the fuck happens next? i liked sex better when it was considered dirty.

whats that 'other' hole right below the clit? is that part fuckable?



Subject: this
Date: Apr 12 2004 11:05:56 PM
Author: i know

its not just this article. every fucking author who writes every fucking piece in this magazine writes in the exact same style. vice tries to be different then spin and rolling stone, etc, but its a slave to the same bullshit. bullshit where everyone who contributes has to have the sames ideas. Dont people catch on after reading one issue?



Subject: VICE WRITERS
Date: Apr 12 2004 09:38:33 PM
Author: Whore writer

Or maybe they edit the living shit out of every piece until it's in their own voice and that's what makes Vice Vice.



Subject: what I want to know
Date: Apr 12 2004 09:20:52 PM
Author: Zhao

what I want to know is how did Vice get a professional prostitute to write in exactly the style one of their brat journalist would write? the entire article sounds like it's written by a staff member but especially F - Fucked by your dad, the "wait, oh shit, it's true" part.

so either they trained a whore to write like them or one of them is a whore. I guess.



Subject: bull
Date: Apr 12 2004 06:36:25 PM
Author: shit

this is bullshit. what about girls from the ukraine who get sold into slavery by their moms, taken to some western european country and systematically raped to death over the course of a few years? they didnt choose to have a bullshit coke dependency. christ, they don't even know where they are, they're only 14.



Subject: in a nutshell
Date: Apr 12 2004 06:21:02 PM
Author: humanity

people are losers



Subject: informative
Date: Apr 12 2004 03:47:36 PM
Author: lester

and entertaining



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