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Subject: ok Date: Aug 14 2005 12:54:32 AM Author: Arg "yall are stupid. bush is awesome and usa is awesome.... what is fucking wrong with this website?" alright you ignorant hick, sry to burst your bubble, but in the little world you live in where the u.s. is really the country it is made out to be by the media, and osama is just gonna fly out of an eagles a$$, all that was stated above is true. those right-winged conservatives only care about money;they use religion to manipulate idiots like you into thinking that their doing what's right, yep, and i'm sure G-d would have bombed a country and killed thousands of innocent people. geez, religion is distorted into something so corrupt and you can't even see it. hell, the reason 9/11 happened in the first place WAS because of religion. as for the immigrants, i live in l.a., and please correct me if i'm wrong, nvr will you get a person wanting to go out for more than eight hours a day crouching down to pick up strawberries, garden, or clean after ur crap, for the ridiculous wages they do it for, only wanting to support their families. so go chew on that for a while before u go on cheering for bush. Subject: hi Date: Jun 29 2005 03:27:35 PM Author: Nicole pat yourself on the back if you got your poli si. degree. But she's ranting! she doesn't need to wipe your ass at the same time. go lick a stick you fu*kin nerd. Subject: ha ha ha ha? Date: Jun 19 2005 06:37:41 PM Author: Nicholas Boy, janeane really isn't as smart as I thought she was. I think the magazine's making fun of her. This is like the special olympics of political essays. Subject: She's TOTALLY RIGHT!! 1000%!! (Pt. 2) Date: May 31 2005 12:13:06 PM Author: Robert T. Smith (con't) ...swung one way or the other. This is, in fact, what happened in Ohio in November 2004. The vote tallies were impossible for the number of people who voted in many precincts. The bottom line: Bush was elected illegally. So the Republicans cheat. It's as simple as that. And they need to resort to tactics like this because they can't win on their own agenda as it hurts virtually all Americans except for the top 1% of earners. If they don't lie, cheat and keep people ignorant and dumb, they can't win. Therefore, keeping the news suppressed and the important issues sidelined and keeping people thinking about silly, unintelligent shows like Survivor and WWF and Nascar, and labeling those who disagree with them as "liberals," "unpatriotic," and "un-American," they can go about their terribly destructive agenda against America without people paying too much attention or having it ever exposed in the mainstream media. But the worst thing of all is how they are able to do it to such a heinously evil degree and get by with it. Go to reopen911.org, get their free DVD, watch it, and see just exactly how evil these neocon theocratic fascist Republicans really are. It will absolutely blow you away like nothing you've ever seen. Bob Smith x25931 at yahoo dot com Subject: She's TOTALLY RIGHT!! 1000%!! Date: May 30 2005 11:25:59 PM Author: Robert T. Smith But not only is she right, George Bush and the other conservatives are far, far far, far worse than the vast majority of dumbed-down, idiotic, insipid, drunk-on-The-Faux-News-Channel morons can possibly imagine. The reason that he was re-"elected" is because of his hatred for gay people (and cloaking it in some lame "defending the 'sanctity' of marriage" argument), the fact that there were massive voting irregularities (read: fraud perpetrated by the Republicans) that were covered up and not brought out in the mainstream media, and because Diebold and ESS are Republican-owned and controlled companies who control 30% of the electronic voting machines in the country which allows them to control how the votes are counted. And as everybody knows: He who counts the votes, wins. And because the Republicans (House majority leader Tom DeLay) staunchly refused to let a bill come to the House floor for a vote on whether a paper trail or receipt would be issued from all these electornic voting machines so that people's votes could be verified in case of any "inaccuracies" after the election, there is now absolutely no record of who voted for whom in future elections -- leaving us a nation completely at the mercy of whoever counts the votes or programs the voting machines. And being that these can be hacked and reprogrammed in less than 2 minutes by any kid with a basic knowledge of DOS, the tally can easily be Subject: bitches.. Date: May 17 2005 07:33:59 PM Author: american bitch yall are stupid. bush is awesome and usa is awesome.... what is fucking wrong with this website? Subject: shmya Date: Feb 25 2005 10:28:24 AM Author: Roy shmya ~~~ uhhh Subject: you are right! Date: Feb 18 2005 08:40:19 AM Author: sandy o'berry i love you! 100% agreed Subject: Right on, sista'! Date: Feb 15 2005 09:40:42 PM Author: John JJ Martin ...I don't think anyone can argue that. Subject: Why are you people reading Vice? Date: Jan 20 2005 04:58:43 PM Author: John Marshall Honestly, not only do Ms. Garofolo's points make sense, they're obvious. Why are all of you people reading vice? You can't be a conservative asshole, and a hipster asshole at the same time. Pick one and stick with it. Subject: I just read somehing i already knew Date: Jan 14 2005 04:41:32 AM Author: Guitarmy Ya we know, Bush and the right are the devil. Isn't anyone else bored of this topic? Subject: dave's brain Date: Jan 08 2005 01:54:12 PM Author: buddha monk in da trunk turn da base up david you are not bright enough to fathom a fathomable understanding of this type of (anti you the peabrained man) journalism they read books you rant about stuff you don't know shit about booyakka Subject: Token liberal Date: Dec 30 2004 05:33:50 PM Author: David This woman is the Colmes of Vice, is her rant even edited? Good points are badly laid out, and the illustration has to be McInnes taking the piss, making the article laughable before it is read. For some intelligent words on America's state today, check out Hunter S. Thompson's book "Kingdom of Fear".. Subject: Liked the Article Date: Dec 29 2004 05:37:33 PM Author: Mike Coddington I agree with all your points, I am a liberal, but I admit that not all right wingers are stupid, I like how you reconized that. But it's true, you can't support the troops without proper funding. Power to ya! Subject: Blah blah blah blah Date: Dec 26 2004 05:38:06 PM Author: blah blah blah If marriage is just for the purpose of procreation, howcome post-menopausal women and people who are infertile for other reasons are allowed to get married? Subject: continued... Date: Dec 24 2004 01:42:12 AM Author: derek Marriage and children is ‘tenuous’ at best huh? I don’t know what historical contexts you’ve been studying, because until only a few years ago, the formal relationship between marriage and procreation has never been considered separate. A disease of our time is the fashionable assumption that traditional institutions such as marriage are arbitrary conventions that can change with the times. Unlike campus post-modernists, I don’t believe in throwing the hard learned lessons of history into the garbage. There is plenty of reason to keep some things sacred. Patriarchy has nothing to do with the fact that procreation can only take place between a man and a woman and that countless studies have proven without doubt that children do best when raised by a mother and a father of opposite sex. So yes. Marriage is about having children. It is the one institution that is designed for their support. As for ‘Single parents on welfare,’ thanks for the alarmism, but as long as there are functioning dicks and vaginas, there will always be people out there having illegitimate children without the resources to support them. Likewise there will always be unique cases that people like you will point to in order to undermine the reasons for protecting normal marriage. Despite the several individual stories you pull from a friend of a friend, the majority of people marry so that they may pool their resources together for the well being of their children. Subject: a response Date: Dec 24 2004 01:40:50 AM Author: derek I’m not confused. All my laughable points can be backed up from sources that aren’t pulled from Foucault’s asscrack nor from any other cultural theorist you probably overrate. Let me ask you, if I were to say that heterosexuality is and always will be the great human norm, does that make me prejudice towards gays or realistic about a universal human concern? I’d bet you’d sleep better at night thinking that anyone who chooses to protect normal marriage is simply a homophobe or religious fanatic. Goddess forbid that any of these people be well-read and logical. Out of respect for VICE’s limits in these forums, I’ll try to keep my arguments short (though it will probably span two of these boxes). If you want to debate this further, I will gladly register in the proper forums provided. My reasons for protecting normal marriage has nothing to do with hatred towards gays and everything to do with respecting the boundaries and lessons of tradition. Gays have already done very well for themselves by winning the same-sex benefits battle. What purpose is there in making a fuss about the mainstream, homogeneous, and egalitarian mindset that comes with marriage except as a way to triumph self interest over decades of philosophical doctrine? Gay culture thrives on being a separate entity from the norm anyway. Subject: Some confused people on here Date: Dec 23 2004 06:41:37 PM Author: Scared of you people Of all the misguided things that 'derek' posts, this has to be the most laughable: "...simply because marriage is about having children." From what I gather from historical context, the connection between marriage and children is tenuous at best, but is instead mostly related to patriarchal control over the female sub-species (or at least that's how females were perceived when 'marriage' was conceived). And besides, if marriage was just about having children, wouldn't single parents on welfare present a much greater threat to the "traditions" of marriage than a couple of gay people that are otherwise minding their own business? Come on people, if you're going to be prejudice against gays, just be honest about it instead of hiding behind politics. There's no sane reason to prevent gay people from getting married. Y'all are just scared of gay people, that all... Subject: I don't know why I bother. Date: Dec 23 2004 05:54:18 PM Author: miles Well . . . marriage is also about being recognized by your government as legitimate. Our political/economic/whatever systems are built around the basic unit of society, the family. And there are plenty of congregations that would marry gay couples. But what do I know? I'm just some poor fag. At least I got my shopping and dance clubs! Who would I be without them? Go pink. Subject: health care, marriage, and other... Date: Dec 22 2004 04:29:13 PM Author: derek To the poster underneath me, If you are refering by chance to Canada's "socialist" health care system, you should know that it rates almost as poor as Cuba's and North Korea's. This country puts way too much money into health care and yet people are still having to wait up to twelve hours for emergency surgery (if lucky). Non-life-threatening surgery can take up to eight months to book. As for protecting 'normal marriage,' why not? Its so easy to write this type of action off as homophobic or irrational. The truth is, no major world religion has ever endorsed gay marriage simply because marriage is about having children. This means more than just shooting your beans up some chick's muff. It means raising them, feeding them, educating them, and being overall responsible for them. If being gay is natural (which it is) then it shouldn't be disupted that gays are not meant to have children. Normal marriage is what builds the country. You pass on tradition, you contribute to the economy. Canada has a reputation for catering to the vocal minority. In the next few years this country is headed for the gutter. Age of sexual consent is 14 here. That's pretty much legal child molestation. Soon we'll be banning trans-fat because of that idiot who filmed himself stuffing his face with McDonald's. Soon we'll be having state-run daycares so reckless parents will no longer have to raise their own kids. Subject: fuck it Date: Dec 20 2004 02:18:59 PM Author: black gas continued from below... Fuck 'protecting marriage,' its none of anyone's business who marries whom. And legalize drugs, i'm a big boy and don't need anyone protecting me from myself. And whats with all this "fuck the UN" stuff? I like the UN and I'm not suspicious of the rest of the world. They dont rule us, stop being so paranoid. I dont mind some socialism, like health care and education (unless there was a feasible means to privatize it), but thats about it. Keep the government for defence and protecting people from fraud, coercion and violence. Subject: fuck it im voting libertarian fromnow on Date: Dec 20 2004 02:17:14 PM Author: black gas Okay, everone be quiet and listen to me now. I got problems with both sides. Immigration is fine-- but border jumpers should turned away at the point of a gun, and companies hiring illegals should be punished. We have enough poor people already. ANd illegals shouldn't get benefits, driver's licenses etc. The us needs to stop meddling in the middle east, its what caused all this shite in the first place. On the same token, far less government funded aid for other countries-- too often it gets pocketed/hoarded by strongmen in fucked up regimes. And reform welfare--no more leeches created by a system that encourages leeches. That includes subsudies and corporate welfare too. All these $1000 a plate fundraiser types should be raising private money to solve the problems they see, not trying to get the government to take everyones money to *try* and solve them. And leave my guns alone, i have the right to defend myself and i wont be blamed for the actions criminals will always take, regardless of gun control laws they wont respect. At least I have less chance of becoming one of their victims. Subject: the lefty 2 below me is gay Date: Dec 20 2004 12:58:25 PM Author: the lefty 2 below is gay no wonder the left is in such shambles....this idiot cant even read. stop living in dream world lefty homo...wilkomen undt 2005, wilt homo verboten. 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Subject: 3507321C is a blind fool Date: Dec 15 2004 09:02:20 AM Author: milky I hate you 3507321C and your discriminating, narrow, shallow views. The Jews aren't evil you fucking idiot. There is no 'evil' chromosome that only the Jews possess. (Although I suspect you're probably missing a few chromosomes of your own) Are you pissed off that an entire nationality of people that have been stepped on and abused for thousand's of years, has finally risen up and managed to make some cash in this capatalist society? Finally risen above the shit that they've always faced? People say Jews hate Arabs, well guess what. If my country was surrounded by countries that hated me, I'd hate them too!! You make me ashamed to be White. Subject: 3507321C is a blind fool Date: Dec 15 2004 09:02:20 AM Author: milky I hate you 3507321C and your discriminating, narrow, shallow views. The Jews aren't evil you fucking idiot. There is no 'evil' chromosome that only the Jews possess. (Although I suspect you're probably missing a few chromosomes of your own) Are you pissed off that an entire nationality of people that have been stepped on and abused for thousand's of years, has finally risen up and managed to make some cash in this capatalist society? Finally risen above the shit that they've always faced? People say Jews hate Arabs, well guess what. If my country was surrounded by countries that hated me, I'd hate them too!! You make me ashamed to be White. Subject: The right Date: Dec 15 2004 07:25:47 AM Author: Ri It was indeed the worst collection of white people ever. Subject: JEWS Date: Dec 15 2004 05:28:27 AM Author: 3507321C JEWS ARE LEFTY BLACKS ARE FENCE SITTERS (CAN'T DECIDE IF "DA MAN" IS WHITE OR JEWISH (DUH HE HAS A HOOK NOSE). WHITES ARE RIGHT (WELL WE ARE) BLAME THE JEWS, THEY HATE YOU GOYIM ! ONE DAY SOON THE BLACKS ARE GONNA FINALLY AGREE THAT "DA MAN" IS JEWISH THEN WHITES N BLACKS ARE GONNA JOIN FORCES N CRUSH JEWRY ONCE N 4 ALL !! Subject: This is a joke right? Date: Dec 14 2004 07:06:45 AM Author: sander Air America. What a joke. Political commentary from Garofalo and Franken. The world may suck but I'm nowhere near the point of getting my deep political insights from an SNL alum and the ugly chick from The Truth About Cats and Dogs. I hate the right too but not for the reason Garofalo states. I hate them because they act like the left in an attempt to get votes and they confuse the religious right with conservative politics. The reason the right wants less taxation is that we don't get enough in exchange for the taxes we pay. It's kind of like a movie ticket to a Garofalo movie. You pay a lot, you get disappointed and you don't want to pay again. People who have done something other than stand on a stage and make people laugh by complaining about others understand this. The right doesn't think the poor will become lazy if you give them a tax cut. The right recognizes that they are lazy and they don't pay taxes. Therefore, they can't get a tax cut because they don't pay taxes and they won't do anything productive with a tax cut because they have never done anything productive before. Subject: parody! Date: Dec 13 2004 10:58:57 AM Author: Jason asshole I get it now. This article is a joke! Pick up the York university newspaper and read EVERY article and you will see that JG's article truly represents the best in satire. Brilliant parody of the air-headed student left! Very funny. Subject: American's hate to read. Date: Dec 13 2004 10:35:29 AM Author: milky Toronto dumps all of it's garbage in Michigan, and for the most part the U.S. buys our water and wood because like a spoiled bratty child you've used up all of your own. I don't hate all American's just the 51% who voted for Bush. You're only angry at Janeane becuase she's right. (p.s. at least spell her name right, it's at the bottom of the fucking article.) Will you PLEASE just switch to the metric system already, c'mon seriously. You and England are the only two countries on the planet who don't use it. Let me teach you metric. 10 millimetre's in a centimetre, 100 centimetre's in a metre, 1000 metre's in a kilometre, there. metric. How many feet in a mile? I'll bet it's a nice, logical easy to remember number like 1000, right? Subject: Fuck Right Date: Dec 13 2004 09:27:46 AM Author: Zyk Why bother write one million lines of words about how fucked up the rights politics are when it's enough with two words.. Fuck it! Dont spend your time on the rights, it's a negative circle of bullshit! Subject: sad Date: Dec 12 2004 03:47:11 PM Author: wow janeane garofalo was fucking badass, until i read this. get a life, and also some tolerance. you suck balls janeane garofalo. Subject: ? Date: Dec 11 2004 03:47:58 AM Author: lmnop okay what exactly is the right and what is the left? Subject: What? Date: Dec 10 2004 03:20:39 PM Author: Mike This has to be a spoof. None of the Democrats I know are this idiotic. Subject: yeah Date: Dec 09 2004 04:10:41 AM Author: alan alda is fucking great fucking right dogee Subject: what Date: Dec 09 2004 03:49:51 AM Author: js Is this article really written by JG? I thought it was a spoof, kind of like that Slate article the day after the election. I guess they are serious. What the fuck? Subject: I don't get you people Date: Dec 09 2004 02:43:56 AM Author: Confused I read some article that the dickpig who owns this magazine did. He was bragging that he invented teenage Republican/Conservatives or whatever. I know that hipster culture dictates that to be cool is to be anti-mainstream, but aren't you morons taking this shit too far? "OOOH, look at me, I hate the gays! Way to go Bush!" . What's next? Pro-Slavery? Anti-Children? I've got a couple of "Anti's" for you guys to get onboard with: Anti-LIFE and Anti-Earth. Come on d00ds, it's totally the next big thing in hip-culture.!!!!11!!!!111 P.S.: I must reiterate that the editor/owner of this magazine is a complete dickpig. PPS: The magazine is still funny though Subject: Liberalism is a mental disorder Date: Dec 08 2004 10:06:31 PM Author: bobby I hate people whose political opinions aren't based on logic, reality, and common sense. Case in point: Ms. Garofalo Subject: Janeane rags on the right Date: Dec 08 2004 08:03:19 PM Author: Another Cashmuck I live outsid the USA and love the American right. Janeane is a godd example of why. Hey, if she like trashing the Bushman so much, if she likes calling him Chimpy McDeath, if she likes warning people about the Christian Nazis about to operate their death camps any time now, consider this -- she now gets to do all those things for FOUR MORE YEARS. Dig it, babe. Subject: does it really matter? Date: Dec 08 2004 03:00:07 AM Author: Christopher Jion does it really matter that some people on here think it was a lame essay? No. Look,... is ANYONE on fucking planet earth gonna bring anything new to the table????? no. and IF they could and did-- no one would be able to understand it. because if we could understand it... IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN A BILLION TIMES OVER BY NOW. Subject: um Date: Dec 07 2004 11:29:21 AM Author: Alexander This article sucked. You lost. Now go get a job you pansy. Subject: some awe Date: Dec 05 2004 05:25:13 PM Author: Vicious Conceptus whatever...i think it's rather poignant. fuck intellectualism. Subject: oh Date: Dec 05 2004 03:00:23 PM Author: that other guy Ironically, this article is intellectually lazy. Maybe that's the irony that makes this clever. Or not. I don't really care. Subject: LOL Date: Dec 05 2004 12:57:10 PM Author: Duck I always confused JG and Minnie Driver. Both seem talented, both got stuck in crappy films, but only one seems to take herself seriously. Shouldn't be too hard to tell them apart now. BTW, read any college newspaper; the editorials are all written by English and sociology majors who think socialism is the Answer (with enlightened folks like themselves giving the orders to the unwashed troglodite capitalists) and that eating the rich has no negative consequences. I'm sure the New York Times op-ed page has room for one more of these types. This was a rant; what is the left going to do to persuade some of these heathens to vote for their candidates? Subject: great post Date: Dec 04 2004 07:38:53 PM Author: Left vs right THERE'S A GREAT POST ABOUT THE LEFT VS ARCHIE BUNKER ON THE "HELLO WHITE PEOPLE ARTICLE." GO THERE AND FIND Subject: Intellectually Lazy Date: Dec 04 2004 06:29:37 PM Author: Vice is Right! ONE OF THE MOST INTELLIGENT THINGS I EVER READ. SUMS IT ALL UP... Subject: missing the point Date: Dec 04 2004 06:40:58 PM Author: me Jesus...No, I just mean that born again Christians fanatically believe everything they're taught relating to religion, and certain leftist students have a similar mindset regarding Marxism or socialism or whatever. Without really thinking about it rationally at all. Also, if you're so smart, why is your post all in lower case anyway? Subject: worst editorial ever Date: Dec 04 2004 05:02:05 AM Author: Andrew Hartline I'm pretty sure this article is a joke parody of university student newspaper journalism. "What they don't account for is that some people are born with long bootstraps and some people are born without any shoes at all"? And that shitty Rage against the Machine graphic? It seems to me like Garofalo believes what she's saying (I do too) but she is putting it in a lame way to fuck with you all. Subject: previous coment Date: Dec 03 2004 10:37:20 PM Author: smarterthanyou "conformist left wing students" students learn, you on the other hand are clearly ill informed ie Thatcher. Also born again christians and students are basically the same thing ?????! Do you even know any students, or are you just upset that you can't be one. Subject: also.. Date: Dec 03 2004 07:32:13 PM Author: me I don't want to be part of society, it sucks. I'm with Thatcher on that one. Like Grover Norquist, I just want to be left alone. There's one group of people I hate more than born again christians pushing their beliefs on you. It's fucking conformist left wing students who sit around all night smoking weed and agreeing with each others recieved, ill informed, cookie cutter opinions. And you know what? These two groups are basically EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Subject: Preachy bastards. Date: Dec 03 2004 07:20:56 PM Author: me I would call myself a conservative and a libertarian. Not because I want to starve poor people and eat their babies, but because I genuinely believe that socialism is fucking evil. Subject: we should hook up Date: Dec 03 2004 05:09:04 PM Author: Skipping photoshop work In 40 years or so america will be like only 50% or less white, and tons of old people stuck in their ways will be dead, so that should be good, focus on the babies yo, like odb said Subject: Yeah...but.. Date: Dec 03 2004 03:48:34 AM Author: jason asshole O.K.! She is hot. I agree. My problem with all this is that none of these leftie superstars said shit when Clinton bombed the shit out of Afganistan or even cared about the 90's economic downturn. When these fading stars were making films about gen-x or starring on SNL most of us (working people) were living in downsize hell. Shit, VICE was calling Afganistan "the worst place on earth" while Garofalo was a pissed semi-star. Now that she has joined the born-again cult of Bush haters we, working saps, are supposed to kiss her dago ass( I'm Italian)? Subject: multiple realities Date: Dec 02 2004 07:04:27 AM Author: Baudrillard Hey Jeanie, That was cool. You can write. Nice arguments. All this shit is out of our control, so I urge every person to begin destroying the system organically. It is really simple. Stop paying the corporate oligarchy fucks who have white anted and enslaved communities. Its really simple. Dont buy things. Do it yourself. Subject: JANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEANE Date: Dec 02 2004 06:19:04 AM Author: gusto JANEANE! I used to watch that tv show you were on and after reading this i would have to say you would be the sexiest woman on the planet Subject: you're perfect. Date: Dec 01 2004 11:11:41 PM Author: janine garafalo Isn't Janine Garafalo awesome? She totally expanded my vocabulary a little bit. Like when you are describing some chick who is lame, militant, wears boots of whatever, is beat, has a huge bush, cares about issues or has cankles, instead of wasting time describing her, you just go "So I got stuck talking to this Garafalo...." I actually agree with what she says here, though it doesn't strike me as all that original a thought, but I had to make fun of her cuz she's all about being a Garafalo and I am tall, wealthy, and super good-looking and I'm all about being that so Garafalos are my natural enemies. Subject: I hate the left. Date: Dec 01 2004 11:23:27 PM Author: The Unabomber I with there was a way to make this bold and red so it didn't get lost. It couldn't sum up the problem with the left any better... FROM THE UNABOMBER "What we are trying to get at in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an ideaology as a psychological type, or rather a collection of related types ... Those who are most sensitive about "politically incorrect" terminology are not the average black ghetto dweller, asian immigrant, abused woman, or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of whom, do not even belong to any "oppressed group" but come from a privelelged strata of society. ... Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or moral principles ... but compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behaviour; so is the drive for power ... if our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would have to invent problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss." Subject: well... Date: Dec 01 2004 04:38:29 PM Author: hms i bet jello biafra agrees with more of what JG says than you think Subject: POMPOSITY DEFINED Date: Dec 01 2004 03:59:46 PM Author: Hugh Betcha Oh Jeneane! ...such big words for the daughter of an Exxon executive raised in the upper class sleepy town of Madison, New Jersey. I'll quote Jello Biafra: "Ram it up your cunt" Subject: stop watching tv; youre not so smart Date: Dec 01 2004 01:21:46 PM Author: hms first off JG is hott. she and any celeb should be allowed to voice what they think - you dont have to believe it or even listen. remember most celebs wern't born rich so obvs they're going to lean to the left. Rich people want to keep their money so they dont want taxes plus they all have great health care and education so they dont see the need. Poor people and the whole "pull yourself up from your bootstraps/ horatio alger/american dream" theory only works like once in a blue moon - how can anyone argue that the cycle of poverty doesnt exist? I really cant believe some of the responses - americans so hostile to other nationalities - "canadas our bitch, englands our bitch" like these kids writing personally control US govt policy. all any govt does is follow the money - look at egypt or saudi arabia and anyway debate is better than apathy(which is so easy when we're all so helpless)... I HATE the clinton regime and the bush regime and the 5 corporations that control mass media. Jesus was fine but most christians are hypocrites. I hate that folks not from america are so quick to criticize and then turn around and imitate our culture. and its not like THAT many people voted for bush - you know karl rove breathed a huge sigh of relief when he pulled off that reelection - probably the biggest achievement in political spin and propaganda in history. Subject: Who? Date: Dec 01 2004 12:27:19 PM Author: Jason Asshole Was this writen by the same chick I used to think was kinda funny and cute about 10 years ago? Why do these "stars" worry so much about "the right"? It's as if they were soooo freakin' hard done by by OTHER RICH PEOPLE. At least Anne Coulter has a brain. Read her chapter in Treason about these celeb. bitches. Subject: Hayek et al Date: Dec 01 2004 06:03:10 AM Author: JTH Interesting to see the sexual insecurities aroused in Hayek's response, or all the other emotional responses that missed the point of most of what Ms. Garofalo wrote. Hayek the economist would have never supported the government distortion of the economy represented by Bush and Cheney's massive budget deficits. These deficits are like a child eating as many sweets as possible from a jar so that the other siblings won't get as many. The not entirely unintentional impact of these deficits will be to impoverish the federal government to such a degree that there will be little chance for students, old people, sick people, veterans, poor people, etc. to ever be helped in a significant way. Subject: The socialists are back... Date: Nov 30 2004 11:13:34 PM Author: Fredrich Hayek I have came back from the dead to, again, kill all these socialist hippies. Also do you guys know she had really black arm hair and when she was shooting for a movie they had to dye it blond? Janeane Garofalo is a feminazi cause she is way to ugly to have any guy in his right of mind to touch her. Maybe bill can teach her how to use that dildo... Subject: Entertainers gagged? Date: Nov 30 2004 06:45:36 PM Author: sara Regarding the opinion that entertainers should just stick to entertaining...let's just put a gag order on anyone who disagrees with us, that way the whole country would shut the fuck up. Fascism isn't so bad as long as you keep quiet and don't complain, right? Entertainers like Arnold, Reagan, Sonny Bono, Eastwood, Ventura, etc. got ELECTED into office, yet JG isn't supposed to act like an American and defend her RIGHTS - which are being eroded at an alarming rate. That makes a whole lot of sense folks. Think about what you are implying when you say certain people are not entitled to their first amendment rights, or to an opinion. That list could easily include you one day. What the fuck happened to BY the People, FOR the People? Apparently we don't live in "America Land of the Free". We live in USA Incorporated, whose slogan is: "Free Thinking is Unpatriotic." Subject: Alright! Date: Nov 30 2004 02:13:31 PM Author: Outsider If at least 60% of your country were filled with people like JG, maybe you wouldn't get 9/11'd, I mean, the whole world hates you, cause you're the most arrogant sonofabitches!!! bunch of profit seeking, xenofobic, wannabe-a-superstar, fatfucks, rednecks, bush voters! When I was a kid, I used to dream about going to america, but then i grew up, and saw the kinds of things you do, and learnt about the way you think... at least 50% of your people just make me sick!!! Subject: r Date: Nov 30 2004 02:10:58 PM Author: dmc you best get your lazy ass up and start working dumbass 'cause if you expect the rich to give back so you can have some too, you should move to canada with all the other white trash who want the government to redistribute the wealth. you better wake the fuck up because your loser ass will be the one thrown out-not the rich, when all is said and done. Subject: proud eagle shit Date: Nov 30 2004 01:46:07 PM Author: r hey, jim-bob big-nuts republican patriot. i'm real proud of this spoiled only child country, too. so proud, in fact, that i'm ashamed to be sharing it with the likes of right-wing money pigs like yourself. as a non-democrat, non-libertarian free thinker, it is my opinion that your shit stinks and you need to do something about it. and fuck you to all who say that it's an animal's world where to each his own and the weak perish. you're mostly hypocrites with big mouths and no experience, anyhow. civilization is about living in a group with rules that all obey in exchange for reaping the benefits of the collective pooled resources. in this country we're so rich that we should all get free quality healthcare and we should get free quality education. but we can't because the wealthiest have to waste and stockpile money. they tell you that it's okay because that's what capitalism is all about and that's what freedom's all about. well guess what, rich fuck? if you want to live like a king and take from the system without putting back in, then get the fuck out. no one cares that you want five houses and first class service everywhere you go. your wasteful spending and the greed that drives it is fucking up the world. bush represents that waste and greed, and these days, so does the entire right. they motivate themselves with talk of morals and common sense but they know, and we know that this is bullshit. the right wing is a mass of cattle eager to be led by Subject: mad and sad Date: Nov 30 2004 12:01:52 PM Author: sad bones what the fuck? why do so many people feel the need to direct defensive insults toward Janeane Garofolo? just because she wrote it in a conversational tone (if she came across like a scholar you would have been alienated because you are not smart) does not decrease the validity of her claims or opinions. Not to mention that many of the great intellectuals today are also humorists. It's like hating your smart and funny friend for voicing her political views in an appropriate setting. And why the defensiveness toward Canadians and Brits about their criticism? the British press is far more accurate in reporting on the U.S. administration, so a clearer understanding of the Iraq situation might result. Americans are trading democracy for fascism, and being defiantly ignorant in the face of opposition. The cultivated "I'm gonna get mine" attitude is an acceptance of your enslavement to the wealthy elite, so maybe read a bit more (not commercial press) and shut up sometimes. There is no need to reinforce the "arrogant american ass-kicker" stereotype, because it makes people in other countries hate me, when I am actually very amicable and open minded to other perspectives -including non-American ones on American issues. P.S. America is not richer because it is smarter, and richer is not better. Isn't it common wisdom that the whole might equals right thing is bogus? wasn't that fundamental in founding America. Subject: anybody with some brains welcome Date: Nov 30 2004 05:31:19 AM Author: EU immigration office You sorry pissheads keep on being proud of what you are and shoot immigrants. Keep on saying canada is your landfill and call UK guys imperialists in red coats or whatever. You have no idea what a pain it is to even live in such a right wing religious idiotic country like the US because you don't know what it can be like in other countries. lived two years in the US, and you are the most racist self-contented people I ever met and I am glad to have been able to get out of the US and back in Europe. Currently encouraging my US friends (not belonging to the 60% of idiots currently destroying this country) to get the fuck out as well. Europe will welcome anybody with a bit of intellect, whether fromthe right or the left, but at least with some idea of what self-criticism means. Because lots of things suck in Europe as well, but at least we acknowledge it. I'll laugh when all of you fuckers get drafted and you realize how deep in the shit you're in. Subject: wow! Date: Nov 30 2004 12:39:11 AM Author: gina i really can't beleive that you all really think that americans are all like that. don't you have your own independent intelligence? is that not your point? how can you clump the reigning power to mean all the people agree...i'm busy trying to convince the other 51 fucking percent of my country that things can be better. i am here trying to show my people (american is all i can claim cause i come from the most mixxed imaginable) alternitive choices to information. i cannot understand an opinion that rejects the individual mind. Subject: McCarthy = Regan = Bush. Go to bed. Date: Nov 29 2004 06:52:51 PM Author: Hucker For all the people leaping up in shock and outrage, aghast at why everybody isn't rushing to applaud this rehashed Rage Against the Machine CD liner note manifesto, perhaps reading Chubby Hess's article 'Hippy Fascists' in the Education issue of Australian VICE will enlighten you. Subject: this article Date: Nov 29 2004 10:05:32 AM Author: Huecifer I thought VICE articles were supposed to be funny. Or at least, they were supposed to try to be funny. This was neither. Where's the wit, JG, you used to be a comedian? Subject: American jobs, Mexican wages Date: Nov 28 2004 11:26:11 AM Author: immigrant When you talk about "the jobs . . . that nobody does if immigrants don't do them," you're actually talking about jobs that Americans would do if they were paid a fair wage. I mean, it's like you already take for granted that mexicans should be doing the dirty work rather than the boss be paying Americans what it's worth to do the dirty work. There are no jobs that Americans won't do, there's just shitty wages that Americans won't accept. Subject: hire me Date: Nov 28 2004 11:18:35 AM Author: linda There's no clear answer when it comes to the state of the union. Awwe, Poor, feeble-minded union. Awww, The union includes me. I myself am a liberal, raised on a commune somewhere in Alaska, but you don't care about that shit. What you want to know is why am I currently bashing my brains in trying to write a dissertation on preserving ANWR for a stupid university Pre Req when it's obvious that this subject is moot due to the overwhelming majority of a right-winged authority. Yo Dawg. This shit won't fly. And oh, I forgot to mention that the student body at my university is 86% ----------to the right. My theories on why the right is blowing up in my anus. 1. Neoconservatism and the Church. I don't know why so many ignorants are converting these days. Can someone please invite me to a think tank so I can understand? Maybe the coming of the millenium is scaring the shit out of revelationists. 2. Republicans vote more than democrats. 3. Hell is endothermic. 4. How did Hitler brainwash his suborninates again? 5. Inscest. I wake up to this country every day knowing that my side is losing. And it fucking sucks. I don't even see issues amymore. I see serious people who are very serious with their serious problems. So there is an element of serious and CNN telling me that consumers are shopping so it must be Christmas. Subject: America Sucks Date: Nov 28 2004 01:36:28 AM Author: asspunchstew I can't wait till ole Bushey takes away Abortion in America. I want to see rich white pussy getting their fetuses yanked in crack dens and alleyways and then sell them on ebay to fetus fetishists who'll jizz all over them. I hope Condi Rice bombs you stupid Portugese drywallers. Subject: fantastic Date: Nov 27 2004 08:09:02 PM Author: amber joy you've put into words what I've never been able to get outta my brain, really. AJ* Subject: Hating opinions Date: Nov 27 2004 04:57:07 PM Author: Dan Kraine The reason people hate Janeane Garofalo is because she loudly voices her opinions, thinking that because she HAS an opinion, she has the RIGHT to an opinion. She does not have the right to an opinion. You do not have the right to an opinion. There is no such thing as a "right to an opinion." It's not like having the right not to be murdered, or the right to walk down the street without getting robbed. Those are rights. You get them automatically, just by being alive. But opinions must be earned. They take alot of work and time to earn. When it comes to complicated things like terrorism and foreign policy, pretty much none of the dipshits who have posted on this page have the right to an opinion. This is why people shouldn't vote. We need to wake up. We're dumber than we think. I hate people's opinions. Subject: poof Date: Nov 27 2004 07:09:22 AM Author: linda Dear Vice, Your audience scares the shit out of me. Please don't tell them I read your magazine. And I like this issue. Kind of genius to make your topic Hate after the last issue was the worst issue ever. Can I work for you? Yours, Linda Subject: Rad Bones Date: Nov 27 2004 04:31:19 AM Author: Deemonie Let Rad Bones do an article. Subject: Big words Date: Nov 26 2004 02:57:57 PM Author: Anti Manti I like Janeane Garofalo (reality DOES bite bitch) but I hate stupid words like "thwarting" I didn't even read the rest once I saw "thwarting" was involved. Subject: Fuck Both Sides Date: Nov 26 2004 01:49:11 PM Author: Independent Agnostic I'm with the republicans, Immigration DOES effect everyone else economically because those assholes dont pay taxes and they live off govermental welfare! And Fuck the Democrats with there lets pay for everyone and go broke crap. Fuck the Christian coalition that try to push there beliefs on all us happy cynics. Take ur religion and ruin ur childrens lives like ur parents did u and LEAVE US ALONE! And Fuck all of you who Hate on J cause she voiced her opinion. WHAT THE HELL DID U JUST DO!? It's called our RIGHT, one that all u dumbass' that harped on J used. And also one that Bush has conveniently forgot we have when he implemented his Patriot Act. But then again...He's forgetting about alot of those. Conclusion: How to fix America.... 1.Assasinate Bush. 2.Get the National Guard to shoot anyone on site if they try to illegally cross the border. 3.Get all of our troops back home 4.and FIX OUR HOMELAND CORRUPTION BEFORE WE TRY TO FIX OTHER COUNTRIES Subject: Janeane Garofalo Date: Nov 26 2004 01:26:00 PM Author: Zachary Zzsazz Hey, I'm glad VICE got Garofalo to write them an article, anything that keeps this unfunny bitch from doing her piss poor standup and appearing on TV or movies can't be all bad. Subject: har-har Date: Nov 26 2004 10:36:49 AM Author: toe the left spent the nineties appeasing terrorists, telling people what was good for them, and just generally being smug assholes. now all they can do is whine ha ha Subject: Hee-ha Date: Nov 26 2004 10:36:21 AM Author: Libertarian-but now a nominal Republican Glad to know Janeane hates me. Let’s see, I’m agnostic, a university student, married to a foreigner, and have lived outside the U.S. for years, yet because I don’t want to see the individual in this country reduced to a perpetually victimized mass, I’m to be hated? Fuck you and your out-dated hippy rhetoric. I don’t want socialized healthcare, I don’t want to demonize the wealthy, and I don't give a fuck what the rest of the world thinks. I've been to the rest of the world, who the fuck are they to lecture us? Where are their results? I hate the left and their hypocritical intolerance. Let's see an article on that. Subject: Christian MC Date: Nov 26 2004 09:44:21 AM Author: Black Friday Oh, and Christian MC, good use of metaphor. But do you think it would be better, perhaps, to find the grail and realize it's actually just some shitty cup? This almost happened with Iraq because the plan was to create a completely free market and let the experiment roll. Well, backfire, obviously. But they have a zillion excuses for why that wasn't the grail, it was just some shitty knock-off cup... I don't know... maybe a little homeopathy is just the solution we need. In other words, imperialism + more imperialism maybe = no more imperialism. Subject: What? Date: Nov 26 2004 09:41:19 AM Author: The Patriot What's up with message boards, at least on VICE, being full of righties? Weird shit. I mean, statistically, 18-29 is mostly lefties. I wonder if a lot of people older than that are posting... or maybe it's something about being really into the internet that brings out the meathead in people... chicken or the egg, I guess. Subject: JANEANE GAROFALO Date: Nov 26 2004 06:13:14 AM Author: craig How many more asshole celebrities have to come out of the woodwork with their dipshit opinions? "Oh, I can't call Pat Buchanan stupid, so I'll settle for racist." And other gems like: "Guys like Grover Norquist are trying to push things toward a feudal society." Second-hand, post hippy, aren't-I-a-caring-person bullshit. I thought Moby was bad. Subject: thrust Date: Nov 26 2004 12:04:52 AM Author: a little deeper Government is irrelevant. It has absolutely no effect on a person's life. Stop sniveling about your public officials and start learning how to work around the system. You can start by realizing that you don't ever have to pay taxes. Subject: Janeane is on point.. Date: Nov 25 2004 10:20:42 AM Author: Trev Erik - Canadian Man, a lot of these right wing Americans need to live outside of their country for a week... The rest of the world sure does have a different opinion of you than how you see yourselves… Actually the illustration is quite accurate. Maybe try watching or reading some media from up here or anywhere else… It’s not like the rest of the world is blind to what’s actually going on. Subject: Sheesh! Date: Nov 25 2004 06:03:50 AM Author: me It's funny how the american left will basically tolerate any lifestyle choice or "culture". As long as it isn't people who are keen on jesus, or think taxing the arse off of people who invest in their economy might be a bad idea. PS: This "Rad bones" fella is a million times funnier than Janeane Garofalo. Subject: LMAO Date: Nov 25 2004 01:32:51 AM Author: Drizzle "I hate the right because they're all about thwarting people's potential. They hinder imagination and the ability to move forward toward enlightenment and modernity." Yeah, where as the enlightened left is only interested in thwarting rich people's potential. Subject: Devin Flynn-shitty artist Date: Nov 24 2004 08:23:10 PM Author: rad bones fucking pathetic Devin. unbelievable. A hog sitting on money with american flagish looking stuff and guns and bullets? are you fucking serious? are you like one of those chinese kids that got a scholarship to Pratt even though you suck, and instead of graduating with tripple honors or whatever, and going back to china to do the robot, decided to stay and steal illustration jobs from americans who know the difference between something interesting and something which is so fucking lame and obvious that it makes Jeanner graffoopla's article on science or whatever look like a new religion. Devin, heres how you can partially redeem your self. 1. stop being a chinese job theif, 2. stop eating your boogers and rubbing your chinese gentials against the floor of the bathtub while the dirty water is getting luke warm, and 3. Stop drawing lame obvious pictures. Vice!...seriously, what the fuck are you doing with this guy. I will personally sink your enterprise if I see this name in any future issue. Subject: Devin Flynn-shitty artist Date: Nov 24 2004 07:51:20 PM Author: rad bones attn Devin Flynn, you are a lame and shitty artist. This drawing reminds me of some lame new school skate graphic that some little pussy small-wheeler did on his notebook before he learned rock to fakies on a launch ramp that he dug out of the trash because some jocks set it on fire the week before. Heres my advice Devin, Dont draw things that you stole off the No Fear web-site, and stop sticking your finger up your butt everynight while you masturbate, its fucking disgusting, and I see you do it all the time since I am your roomate. Come on Vice, you employ this, you should be ashamed. You should make Devin take a shit in front of the whole office to punish him for his retarded aesthetic. Subject: subject Date: Nov 24 2004 08:01:01 PM Author: pea tear griffen blah fucking blah. heard it all before. ya i agree, but this is like really old news. Subject: get off the soapbox Date: Nov 24 2004 07:15:58 PM Author: independent My main problem with Ms. Garofalo is that she is essentially whoring her profession. Her job is to entertain, not take wild advantage of her spotlight by becoming some sort of pseudo-political scientist. Celebrities need to stop alienating their fans by polarizing themselves politically, and usually liberally. On that note, why are people aligning themselves based on what comedians, actors, and musicians have to say? Honestly, where do these people get the nerve to start lecturing the public, and claiming that they represent thier audience? Both radical liberals and conservatives tend to simply agree with their side's stance. We do not live in world of ideals. Being a conservative Christian is just as valid of a life choice as being an atheist, liberal homosexual. About this essay in particular, I find it to be too vague, much like the majority of attacks on either side. Criticize with details, don't just tell about how stupid Conservatives are because they are all evil war-mongering rich white fat men. (And why is it suddenly becoming wrong to be white? Reverse racism?) I want names, dates, locations, not just fleeting opinions. Of course, it is the right of the people to protest. It is our right to disagree with our government, to demand change. But when you start to attack your fellow citizens, it starts to get hypocritical. The Bill of Rights covers more than just the rights of liberals. Subject: so retro Date: Nov 24 2004 05:46:08 PM Author: anon lefties own mccarthyism Subject: bush doesn't care Date: Nov 24 2004 05:31:06 PM Author: cares, who really make music...it's the only thing that humans have...make music with a cause...finish a revolution....rage against the machine....cry; we won't have time to soon....die punk die....the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain drops the rain dropsthe rain drops Subject: i jumped on the bandwagon too Date: Nov 24 2004 05:08:13 PM Author: horse blinder g This article and the lovely responsese to it, once again, have alienated people with INTELLECT. Bottom line. Subject: Yeah Date: Nov 24 2004 04:55:02 PM Author: Christian Mc Fuck those who don't want to stand up even now and have it out, you ignorant servile pissant. And those who say they are liberal but call Garofalo and Moore wind-bags? Fuck off and smother your children. Circular bullshit. Actually, the content of what a person says *does* make them more or less tolerable. PS - Janeane is so damn hot. Maybe this is why I'm angry. Subject: Adventure Date: Nov 24 2004 04:54:27 PM Author: Christian Mc. Its a start. There's so much else to go on. We should hit them where they are hard, not where they are soft. Go for the patriotism angle, go for the fiscal prudency angle. Fuck them over completely. Here's a rap on Adventure Capitalism: Marx's ghost haunts us with reminders about the production of capital; the eternal fateful byproducts of the Grail Quest for Enough Money. We can no longer make any mistakes on this issue; investments bankers, economists, politicians and CEOs are nothing less than our Knights of the Crown, searching for the heart of the invisible Kingdom; the oxymoronic "sustainable wealth". Along the way, the Kingdom lies in ruin, dreams of Albion rallied again and again to renew the search. This group of men and several women (who, once Questers for Capital, become merely Knights, genderless and all-respected). These brave adventure capitalists are sent out to their death and spiritual desolation for the good of the Kingdom, hoping one day to return to the throne to ressurect the dead or dying King. Hoping that a sprinkle of infinite wealth could revive him from coma. Hoping in the process to drive away the bugbears of the Quest - the moving and the movable image - and hear those long-awaited words: "I did not know how empty was my cup, until it was filmed." We must hide the grail. Beneath shame. Beneath horror. Beneath love. Beneath doubt. We will not play fair any longer. Subject: the pee pee Date: Nov 24 2004 04:38:07 PM Author: dmc okay limey, you just showed your whole shitty hand by saying americans should go to "university" and describing that bull-dike garofalo as "bang-on". look, the next time america wants the uk's opinion, we'll beat it out of you. This goes for canada and any other country that forgets about the protection, opportunities, and money we provide them and wants to critisize the minute details of a country that they only have wet dreams about living in. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you redcoat, imperialist, blood pudding eating meatsack. Subject: get an education people Date: Nov 24 2004 03:43:20 PM Author: the p The intelligence level of you all indicated by the comments must be incredibly low: what the HELL is wrong with you people? I can see that your need to rebel, to come across as the embodiment of jaded meanness, to talk complete garbage, (to rail against anything in print?) has overriden your ability to be intelligible. I couldn't imagine this piece being trashed like this anywhere else...if you have nothing to say, why bother even posting a comment? Go to university or something, I don't know--the comments I read in this area (in response to other articles)are so piss-poor and nonsensical I'm starting to question my own motivation to read this magazine. Is THIS the category I fit into? Hope not. And as for ALAN ALDA??? Really, you don't know what you're talking about. At all. And as for the person that said this sounds like an "over simplified high school essay"--what on earth are you talking about. At the very least, Janeane Garofolo's article is extremely well-written, and if any of you took poli sci 101 you'd see she's fairly bang-on, even if that stick-in-the-mud liberal stance does get irritating at times. Word to vice: you know where it says "posts that are not on topic will be removed?" you might want to enforce that. Subject: politicks Date: Nov 24 2004 02:59:16 PM Author: right?left?fuckit! Let's do something about it guys!! Come on our generation can change the world!! Fuck that. Jerk off, then play your Xbox and wait for American Idol to come on. Subject: I'm the Date: Nov 24 2004 02:26:44 PM Author: Problem (as u read it realize it's u) Love is the answer. Subject: no choice Date: Nov 24 2004 02:05:12 PM Author: gil bates who still buys into that left-right bullshit is a complete dork. i feel sorry for us of a citizens because they actually have no choice. you can only vote for 2 friggin partys. actually you cant even vote yourself. you have to vote somebody you trust to vote what you would have voted for. this is such a joke. and after all it changes nothing. each us president just followed the same scheme. if they didnt, they got assasinated. the only difference is, that republicans are less hypocrite. the only freedom us americans have is that they live in such a big country, so it is easy to hide away from govermental issues. like draft. i think its time for riots again. Subject: jesus Date: Nov 24 2004 02:13:45 PM Author: john i fucking hate texas Subject: What the? Date: Nov 24 2004 01:30:39 PM Author: Simon B Is this a joke? this is like an over simplified essay from some high school kid who just got their first anarchy patch. Subject: D.C Date: Nov 24 2004 01:12:24 PM Author: another canuck great idea dc. make canada your landfill. put all of you waste in practically your only fresh water resource. we all know you lardass americans are full of shit. Subject: Left is the new Right Date: Nov 24 2004 12:44:34 PM Author: Justin You know what's great about programs like universal healthcare? The government finally gets to take care of all of us. You know what would also be great? Breadlines. That way, we could all be coddled like mewling newborns. Let's get some breadlines on the way. And rich people definitely have to go, they make me feel like less of a person with all of their possessions. In fact, let's get rid of all of our possessions. That way we could all be the same, clean as a cookie cutter. I gotta go now, it's time for the Two Minutes Hate. Subject: canucks eat a dick Date: Nov 24 2004 10:25:26 AM Author: D.C. don't worry "hoser"....we'll be bombing your white trash country soon enough. just wait till we run out of places to put our garbage....canada will be our landfill bitch Subject: America sucks Date: Nov 24 2004 09:46:36 AM Author: Canuck you americans are fucked and stupid. I'm from the most redneck part of canada and we still aren't stupid and racist enough to vote in the right wing, fend for yourself, Christian ideological arseholes. you have only yourselves to blame Subject: this piece Date: Nov 24 2004 08:58:27 AM Author: clarence Leaving asid the question of whether or not either of this issues' JGs are cool, I wish that the girl JG had had a passel of her minions get a couple more specific nouns than "they" for this piece. that is all. Subject: Janeane Garofolo Date: Nov 24 2004 04:19:39 AM Author: john I should have known not to read any of this after I checked the byline. Janeane Garofolo is a Democrat, i.e. part of the problem. And wasn't even slightly funny in the first place. America Sucks. Subject: Still funny? Date: Nov 24 2004 03:45:51 AM Author: d10SHUN Not really, but is it me or are stand up comedians the smartest people in America for getting paid to tell you what you already think about politics...and making a seasonal killing off it. I predict her next stop is The Daily Show. Subject: velvet pope Date: Nov 23 2004 09:54:09 PM Author: doris the spider reading over shit before you send it is lame Subject: unf unf unf unf UNF Date: Nov 23 2004 07:06:19 PM Author: Pokey Everyone hates immigrants. It's the 'fucking new guy' syndrome. The new guy at work is an automatic dipshit untill he buys everyone lots of beer, licks the bathrooms spotless a few dozen times, keeps his mouth shut when he catches you jerking off in the can, whatever. Pretty soon you're both photocopying your ass at the office christmas party and you don't give a shit if he feels up your ex from reception. Deep down we're just afraid the FNG is less of a lazy twat than we are. Subject: adf Date: Nov 23 2004 03:47:55 PM Author: adf I hate Geaneane Garofalo. Unexamined? I don't even think she read over this before she pressed "send". Subject: sd Date: Nov 23 2004 02:40:09 PM Author: sd Look on the bright side: the last time the Republicans controlled the White House, House and Senate was 1924. Remember what happened just five years after that. Subject: The Right Date: Nov 23 2004 12:58:20 PM Author: Mexican Chocolate I'm part of the right and I love it. It's far better than hanging with the left--it's true. Nevertheless, I love vice and I loved voting for GW BUSH! Subject: you said it...but Date: Nov 23 2004 12:53:37 PM Author: JJ Canadian Well done, well put, organized... i liked it.. its to bad thats the world you guys live in.. yet what's the general public of america thinking? is this a minority opinion? As an outsider I dont get why you all voted for the RIGHT? when it was wrong?... i mean he actually got elected this time...any thoughts people of america? ? ? Subject: rnc Date: Nov 23 2004 12:48:11 PM Author: dexter fortunato yo that hole shit was so fuckin crazy, i felt like i was back home in al quds with all the armed fucking guards with giant machine guns and helicopters hovering for 10 hours and really hot republican bitches who refuse to divulge theyre individual partisanship...fuckin good, then they gave all the delegates those red bags so people would know who they were and rob and beat them Subject: I hate hating haters, hating hate-hate Date: Nov 23 2004 10:37:37 AM Author: PORKTAMER Why do people hate on Janeane? I just don't get it. Ok, well 'cats and dogs'... but still, I don't understand how you hate outspoken liberal sentiment. It's not like she doesn't know what she's talking about. You just don't care. That's the problem - and that's why she is so outspoken. You will care when the Bush administration drives us into the next great depression. She'll probably still have money then - and then she can hate on you, poor-ass. It's like the ant and the grasshopper. The ant prepares for the future and warns the grasshopper to do the same. Then they both get stepped on by some shit-pants brat. I guess the moral of the story is: we're all fucked, regardless. Subject: but... what can we do? Date: Nov 23 2004 10:50:19 AM Author: Alan Alda needs to get laid What can we do? It's true, it is annoying for ANYONE, right or left, to keep bitching about a subject that we've all heard 8 billion times. Let's take action and destroy the republican genome! What action can we take??? That is the real question now. Move to Europe? Kill ourselves? Light ourselves on fire in front of the White House? Let's do something and stop talking about it. Subject: Janeane Garofalo?!! Date: Nov 23 2004 09:57:28 AM Author: alan alda For fuck's sake, who let this annoying cunt write an article? Blah, blah blah, Bush, Christian Coalition, bitch, bitch, bitch, Bill O'Reilly, Haliburton. I thought we invented tampons to plug up holes that spew smelly, vomit inducing shit all over the place. I'm about as "liberal" as it gets. I want to rail lines off a hooker's ass and I want the government to subsidize it. But if there's one thing worse than a smarmy, ignorant, religious zealot right winger it's a self-rightgeous wind bag liberal. Subject: She's Right RIGHT she is so right Date: Nov 23 2004 09:30:07 AM Author: Vadge Clamaton she's white like the light never like the night. "It was the worst collection of white people in America, under one roof, I've ever seen" - it's true man. 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