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Dele |
Putting three hip hop writers together and listening to them talk was so boring that we had to break it up after ten minutes and called up our young friend Nevus Mabu and his main boy and training centre buddy Neil to come and add some ‘normal guy’ insight into the proceedings. It didn’t really work out that way though. What do you want? It’s the Mistakes Issue.
Missy Elliott
Pass That Dutch
Elektra
Dele Fadele: It doesn’t really get me in the way that some of the old stuff did.
Helene Dancer: It is weak but it’s a good party tune
Nevus: No no. It’s HEAVY. It’s there. You just listen to the beat and it’s BUM, BUM BUM and the beat’s there and you’re clapping and dancing. It’s good. Yeah.
Neil: I agree with Nevus. We were in the club the other night and this came on and everyone just went “Woaaah!!” It was amazing, absolutely a fantastic time.
Which club?
Nevus: Eros.
Ludacris
Chicken ‘N’ Beer
Def Jam
Nevus: It’s more of a car track, or, you’re in a car…. driving by… and you’re checking people out and you’re going yyyeaaahhhhggh. You’re cruising.
Are you trying to pick up girls when you’re listening to this?
Standard. Yeah.
Do you sing the “ho” lyrics?
Look. Everything’s changed these days. Everything’s changed. It’s a new age innit?
You don’t think girls mind being called hoes?
Helene: You should be asking me that one really.
Nevus: All girls say don’t call me a ho, don’t call me a bitch. All girls say that. But really yeah? If you call girls a bitch yeah? THEY LIKE IT!
Helene: No they don’t.
Nevus: All the girls like it!
Neil: All the girls we know do!
Helene: You know the wrong girls.
DF: Speaking as an older person, I think with this song, Ludacris is trying to consolidate his pop fan base. There’s always been a political undercurrent to his music.
Zaid: When was there a political undercurrent to his music?
Dele: Well maybe you haven’t listened to his records properly
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Dele: That was always there!
Helene: What sort of political ideas has he got then?
Dele: Well it’s not a case of party politics, but in the case of being a black man in the southern states of America, of being based in Atlanta, that is there.
Nevus: He’s good yeah? But, he puts himself down. He’s got the, what’s the word? Potential... to be a GREAT rapper, to be like, up there, like Ludacris is sick, but with all his hair and stuff, he’s joking around too much.
Death Row Presents 2Pac
Nu Mixxx Klazzics
Death Row
Zaid: I’ve never been a fan of his music and this isn’t doing much to change my opinion of him.
Nevus: Tupac. His rhymes are... good.
Dele: For me, the best album is 2pacalypse now. I was in L.A. and it was two weeks after the riots and it’s got “Brenda’s Got A Baby” on it, it’s just total Black Panther stuff. That was 1992 and now Tupac has been changed.
Helene: He didn’t really touch me. Maybe I don’t understand what it’s like being on the street but his beats didn’t get me.
Nevus: Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. That’s heavy. Dun dun dun dun dun.
Outkast:
The Love Below / Speakboxxx
Arista
After “Hey Ya” by Andre 3000
Neil: All I can say to that: WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?! My God! My dad listens to country and western and I like that more!
Nevus: I agree with Neil. All that rock and country, it’s ugggh.
Helene: It’s wicked! It’s turning hip hop on its head.
Dele: That’s not hip hop I’m sorry, that’s no hip hop. It’s like 60s Beach Boys type music.
Zaid: I don’t see why we should have to bring hip hop into it
Dele: Uuh, we’re talking about hip hop?
Nevus: It’s all that rock’n’roll guitars. It’s like meuaauaghaghaeeaccch! Rock’n’roll is that! They can’t sing! It’s all Waaah waaah waaaah, waaah waaahhahah! Heheheheh! There’s noooo fing there. All the groups, when I see it on TV, I can’t listen to those people. They can’t sing. They can’t dance
OK, what about Andre’s dresses?
Dele: Andre can wear whatever he wants to wear. He’s just being a new waver.
The Procussions
…As Iron Sharpens Iron
Traffic Records
Dele: It’s like Black Eyed Peas used to be, like a band.
Helene: Oh that new Black Eye peas is horrendous. It’s so shit. It’s so shit and saccharine, it’s nothing like they used to put out.
Dele: I think it’s actually subversive because it must be the first Number One record in the history of pop music that talks about the KKK and god knows how many spins they had.
They’re a redundant organisation
DF: No no no. It’s still dangerous. It’s quiet but it’s still there.
Westwood
Platinum Editorial 2003
Def Jam
Helene: He’s done good things for hip hop but I still think he’s a bit of a punk. He’s the son of a preacher but he advocates jiggy hip hop that’s all about bitches, hoes, vice and glocks.
Nevus: No, Westwood is big still, y’know. But where I live yeah, Tottenham, that’s where I’m usually at, yeah? People talk and people talk like Westwood and they’re white but they’re trying to sound more black than me. It’s like “What’s up blood? What’s gwaaning?” I’m like, what are you talking about?
Helene: Being white is not an issue. You can be black and still be a punk
Panjabi Hit Squad Presents:
Desi Beast Volume 1
Def Jam
This starts off with a skit by Ludacris saying, ‘”Get your chicken and get your beer” but shouldn’t he be saying, “Get your halal chicken and please, no beer”?
Nevus: I love it. Y’know I love it. Because, it’s like hip hop and R&B, it’s all. In 80 years time, nobody’s going to be able to distinguish between black and white. Probably.
Neil: It’s got a good beat and also I like trying to understand what they’re trying to say.
Shabazz The Disciple
The Book Of Shabazz —Hidden Scrolls
Battle Axe
Dele: This is great! When it comes to his next album, he’ll be right on a major.
Bullshit
Nevus: It could be. It could be. There’s raves. In the rave they’d probably have that, but in the club? No. In the rave it’s different
Tragedy Khadaffi
Still Reportin’
Solid / 25 II Life
Dele: It’s just brilliant, the way they cut the end of one phrase and just repeat it the whole way through, that’s hypnotism
Jaylib
Champion Sound
Stone’s Throw
Nevus: Jay-D, Jay-Z, whatever his name is, it’s like, all these names are the same these days, but can I say, when we were talking about Ludacris before, that I’ve never ever called a girl a bitch. I called a girl a cheat. The worst was probably a slut. She was my girl and my heart, so I called her a slut. I don’t want to talk about
Neil: Every time he went to see her, he would always end up...
Nevus: Shut up, Neil!
Neil:…between the sheets.
Babu The Dilated Junkie
Duck Season Vol 2
Sequence
Dele:This is the Prodigy song — 1st Infantry featuring Prodigy and it’s his take on “The Message”.
How about Prodigy being a ballet dancer when he was little?
Nevus: What is wrong with being a male ballet dancer? It’s a job. They enjoy it. If he enjoys it, let him do it.
Dele: Do you know what Duck Season means? It means you have to duck from bullets.
Nevus:I’m bored now. Let’s go home.
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