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Photo of Erik Lavoie and Dirt by Terry Richardson.
Every conversation about Ol’ Dirty Bastard brings up the same five things: the original rah-rah rap style, the twenty-odd babies, the picking up welfare checks in a limo, the drug addictions, and the manic police pursuits. But for the last couple of years, we’ve had nothing else to talk about. He got locked up in 2000 for everything from weed to carrying a gun on parole, and only got out a few months ago under strict supervision. Shit, his parole officer won’t even let him be near any place that sells booze. What the fuck? What’s going to happen to Ol’ Dirty Bastard or, as he now refers to himself, Dirt McGirt?
We’re keeping the faith. And we’re not the only ones. In a power move of Suge Knight proportions, Roc-a-Fella’s Dame Dash signed ODB the minute he got released, promising him his own Dirt McGirt clothing line and a VH1 reality TV show. The result is hype of 50 Cent proportions, a testament to the overwhelming love the world has for our hero Dirt Dog. Nobody’s heard the album or seen the clothing line, but we have a sneaking suspicion they are both going to fucking rule.
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We talked to VH1 about their new show ODB on Parole, and they told us about all the crazy shit they’ve filmed since he got out ten days ago. The show is going to put Ozzy and Anna Nicole to shame. Wait, what’s all this ten days shit? He got out months ago. I guess VH1 doesn’t want to get into the two months he spent in a mental institution. Besides, ODB on Parole After a Brief Purgatory at the Mental Hospital doesn’t have the same ring to it.
We don’t blame them for blacking out months of the past. Do you know what kind of shit rappers go through in prison? Whether they’re a so-called badass like Beanie Siegel or just some guy from Van Full of Pakistanis, every inmate piece of shit feels obligated to pound anyone famous in the face again and again until every last bit of popularity and pride is bashed out of them. There’s no Courvoisier and hos in prison. Just fights, fights, and more fights. In the April 2002 Vibe, Dirty confirmed all this, basically saying, “Get me the fuck out of here. I am going to die behind bars.” If you ask Dirt about it now, though, he goes off on a huge, long tangent about how Bush and Clinton are conspiring to kill him and how they have meetings about it all the time.
The rough-time-inside rumors seemed confirmed again when we met up with Dirt and noticed his neck was quite swollen and he had considerably fewer teeth than a man his age should. Speculation on our part, but that sounds kind of like a broken jaw, right? What the fuck happened in there?
Anyway, all this shit is bad for Dirty and a bummer to get into, but it is kind of great for his fans. Can you imagine the kind of weirdo, fucked-up shit he is on now? He’s like a phoenix rising from the flames. “The government is after me!” is going to sound trite when this next album comes out. Come on—he even showed up to the photo shoot with “Dirt McD” spelled out on the hood of his car in hockey tape.
Erik Lavoie: What do you think of me?
Dirty: You’re cool, man, just laid-back, you know what I’m saying? Just loosen out and be sharp, be witty, and it’ll all come to you.
I’d like to ask you something here, um, where did you get your new name?
Dirt McGirt comes from Dirt McGirt Island. It’s a place that’s right off the block from the next island off of Batman Island. I can’t let you know exactly where it is––it’s a secret, you know? Wonder Woman told me not to say nothing.
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Why have you changed your name so much?
It’s like Picasso making a new picture. It feels good.
And what can you tell us about your style, about who influenced you?
My influences come from China; my style comes from Africa, Egypt, Tokyo, and Russia, with love; and the rest comes from Neptune.
You’re the international rapper.
Yes, exactly.
But you’re also deeply rooted in New York.
Yeah, Seneca, the one that sold Manhattan to the white man, that’s my great-great- great-grandfather. [Yelling over to Poppa Wu] Yo, Freedom, how old our granddaddy go back? I’m talking about Seneca, my war clout. [Poppa Wu answers: He was born in 1774. He owned Manhattan] See, Seneca Indians owned Manhattan.
So you’re the original King of NY.
Yes, definitely, no other. I’m the original New Yorker. A toast to it.
What do you think about the stuff we hear on the radio today? It seems that a lot of it comes from you.
I hear that. I think it’s real hip-hop, I think it’s something smashing, lovely, radiant, you know, and gospel. I’m liking the groove that I’m hearing, but I think I set the trend. I’m the one that came with the “fuck you” and shit, I’m the one that taught rappers how to be themselves. Because before Ol’ Dirty came, they was too tight, they wouldn’t allow you to be yourself. And when Dirty came, I put the cramp in your leg in rap. I’m the wildest nigga on Earth, man, period. When Wu Tang started out, they was humble, afraid to get up on stage. I was wild. And I just said, “No, we’re doing it wild, crazy, we bug the fuck out.” So we just started going crazy on niggas, letting our anger out, emotions and shit. We came with the beauty of music. Like Jesus for example, he’s beautiful, you feel me? So this is what Wu Tang do, come with something beautiful for you, like high science. Einstein has a formula, Wu Tang has a formula. A part equals a square and all that stuff, you know what I’m saying? We have a formula, too.
You guys dropped the bomb.
Yeah, the formula is to attack everything at any given time. Just attack and shit like a waterfall, or like water in rapids or more like a fucking whirlpool, “Fuck you.”
And you also got something for the ladies.
Definitely. I’m like Marvin. He got a way of words with the ladies and I have a way of words with the ladies, too. Shit like: “Girls with honey dripping from your ass/ Arms with the funk of smoking grass/ You notice me down the block, I’m that good/ So do your people in your neighborhood/ The way you walk, your period is yummy/ The diamonds in my mouth I eat are gummy.” Shit like that, you know what I’m saying?
But don’t lie, you’re a family man too. How does that manifest itself?
Being there for them, taking care of them. Being a father, you know, living fat, living lovely, plentiful and healthy.
How’s the new record coming along? You’ve got the Roc behind you now, but RZA is still making beats for you, too. Are there too many chefs in the kitchen?
Nah. It’s just fun doing it. I’m really into it and I’m just trying to make it as hot as possible. Cuz you got flavor out there and I want to contribute to the flavor out there, you know what I’m saying? Cuz I’m liking the groove that I’m hearing. I’m just trying to come and be like the eagle over the other birds.
Yeah, but what does it sound like?
I’m coming with new shit, futuristic 2005–2006 shit. And that’s it. Cuz RZA got some shit that’s dangerous, you know what I’m saying? He’s definitely the Abbot. And Roc-a-Fella’s coming tight as hell. So it’s just going to be something for the ear to hear. I got something for the ladies also. I got one with the Neptunes called “Operator.” That shit is hot. Future shit.
Do you see things? Like visions and stuff? I think I do sometimes.
I guess so. I don’t know. We only got two eyes so I guess everything else is limited. You got two eyes, and you got two people, that makes four eyes. So when you’re trying to use four eyes, it makes it difficult to have one eye, you feel me? It limits things. I see things from a one-eye perspective and the four-eye perspective. The one-eye perspective is being able to see everything, as clear as my eye can see it.
I know exactly what you’re saying. It’s like sometimes I feel like I have eyes in the back of my head, and on the sides. It’s like, if you think you’re psychic, then maybe you are. Like the Five Percenters?
You mean the “black man is God” ones? If you keep it a secret, we’ll keep it like that.
As an artist, do you feel the need to comment on the political situation of the last couple of years? Do you follow that stuff at all? Because I think artists who feel like they have to say something about it are pussies.
I don’t follow shit. I just come and I leave. I come and I go. I’m Ol’ Dirty, man. You forgot?
ERIK LAVOIE AND DAVE ONE
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Subject: ODB
Date: Jun 09 2006 02:46:10 PM
Author: metam
HE raped a girl, killed her and ate her lungs
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Subject: RIP ODB
Date: Mar 19 2006 06:58:48 PM
Author: SCUOTT
RIP ODB
Subject: big moses
Date: Nov 15 2005 04:28:47 PM
Author: taltaro
we gone smoke some shit and gone wild like dirty. dominican in the house
Subject: R.I.P ODB
Date: Apr 04 2005 09:35:07 AM
Author: the godfather
id jus like 2 say on behalf of all my boyz nd my troopers in peterborough england
REST IN PEACE
nuff love goin out 2 ya nd u no u can go nd kick it wiv my dad up there nd even tho u did loadz of crazy ass shit i no u will go up like ur career nd not down
PEACE
Subject: odb
Date: Mar 19 2005 02:30:22 PM
Author: allah
peace,eye would just say like to say that i think artists should speak on political views because words are very powerful and also words or speech can awaken the sleepers to realities and truths all depending on the source it coming from. peace
Subject: .
Date: Feb 15 2005 06:00:51 PM
Author: .
Man people talk a LOT of shit on these forums. Why these people keep coming to this site to read shit they hate?
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Date: Dec 25 2004 10:25:53 AM
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Date: Dec 25 2004 10:02:26 AM
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Date: Dec 25 2004 09:03:15 AM
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Subject: R.I.P.
Date: Nov 18 2004 09:44:39 AM
Author: Ponyboy Curtis
Yo rest in peace to my nigga Ol' Dirty Bastard. I want to thank all of those who supported him during his shit. But fuck ya'll friendly motha fuckas who laughed at him dissrespectfully. And to that nigga who posted as Meth you can kiss my ass. This shit ain't funny. His gone now people are hurt inside for that.So I hope who ever was being funny burns in hell slowly. Peace.
Subject: Colorado Shows Last Wed.,Thursday
Date: Nov 16 2004 01:21:29 AM
Author: Motown Man
What happened out there? Played Wednesday, Thursday, missed Fridays show, flew home, died Sat. Something happened. We may not have the whole story.
Subject: RIP
Date: Nov 15 2004 03:00:27 AM
Author: FF
RIP
RIP
Dirt dawg dirt dawg
you our man
if you can't do it
no one can
Subject: shit...
Date: Nov 14 2004 12:49:15 AM
Author: hopex
"I'm the cunt breath asshole eater" - his words will live on.
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Date: Nov 13 2004 10:19:07 PM
Author: SUMwon
RIP
Subject: YEEAH
Date: Aug 31 2004 01:46:08 PM
Author: Dirty Ivory-Dogg
this is tha shit.. word
Subject: YEEAH
Date: Aug 31 2004 01:46:08 PM
Author: Dirty Ivory-Dogg
this is tha shit.. word
Subject: Yo check his shit out
Date: Apr 21 2004 07:06:39 PM
Author: Matt
Download ...Dirt McGirt-Pop Shit and Welcome Home...oh yeah and keep the recipet
Subject: lowee
Date: Mar 15 2004 06:45:56 AM
Author: capeesh
je to husty dawac ten dirt Mcgirt mal by zase zacat dawat tak zatial a Smoka In da PEACE
Subject: wutang forever
Date: Aug 27 2003 02:14:18 AM
Author: shaolinsword
let us hear the album !!!
Subject: seen it happen before
Date: Aug 14 2003 03:31:42 AM
Author:
its the fat pills man!
the old fat pills...a fucking fucker cocksucker i know who just got out (fuck you H!!! yeah! you like that??) also chewed up a bunch of these fucker when he was in for some reason or another that i have no idea about. maybe their pain killers like quaterzone for swollen up jaws? never the less get off the girts' tail ya haters! hes funny! he rules my creates baby! peace dirt!
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Date: Aug 09 2003 11:17:15 PM
Author:
rau rau like a dungeon dragon
Subject: guess
Date: Aug 07 2003 12:47:13 PM
Author: SkillzBelvedere
" me and the ol' dirt laid up with ten bags of skunk, just met this Ho last month, lookin like a benz with a woofer in the trunk"
thats me (as rza) just chillin with the black widow and dirt mc gurk, you know ol dirty's been riding the boxcutter edge between supreme revelation and absolute madness for a while now, keep an eye on him for me wouldya? word up
Subject: Understand...
Date: Aug 06 2003 04:27:56 PM
Author: Satanz Sun
Most of you fuckers don't even deserve to be reading an ODB interview!
Dirt's the man. 99.9% of interviews / hip-hop / anything in life are the same old re-hashed crap.
Pay attention to what he's saying- not how he's saying it. Yr' dazzled by his wordplay- so, you miss the point- and the humor. Boneheads like you feed the breast implant industry! Look up sometimes!!
Subject: jag overvager att skriva på svenska
Date: Aug 01 2003 05:19:04 PM
Author: Priyan
...men ni far det pa engelska...
so... i just pray to God (that´s me btw) that his new shit is going to be just as sick and phat as his first stuff were. Back then, man, he had everything, Wu wasn´t Wu at all without him.
I hope he get the chance to be creative on his own, because that´s the dirty way, the only way. No bullshit this time, just give me dirty, please! :)
Subject: children
Date: Jul 29 2003 10:50:24 AM
Author: observer
He hardly ever talks bout the children anymore...
We'll see how it goes...
Subject: aYO diRRTY WhAT uP?
Date: Jul 28 2003 05:23:44 AM
Author: Meth
I CUT UR FAT NECK AND CHOCOLATE SYRUP POURS OUT.
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Date: Jul 25 2003 03:09:50 PM
Author:
this isnt cool. it's sad. odb is fuckin wes willis now. he was in a fucking mental hospital. i read this and think about poverty and horrible things and stuff, not music. this is fucked. fuck. the world...ending... fuck.
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Date: Jul 25 2003 03:09:50 PM
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this isnt cool. it's sad. odb is fuckin wes willis now. he was in a fucking mental hospital. i read this and think about poverty and horrible things and stuff, not music. this is fucked. fuck. the world...ending... fuck.
Subject: dirt dog
Date: Jul 22 2003 11:57:59 AM
Author: havocNYC
fuck all y'all, DIRT DOG WILL FUCK YOU UP. insanity prevails.
Subject: Old what? That's Dirty McGirt
Date: Jul 19 2003 11:57:57 PM
Author: Situation
Dirt McGirt for president. I love that guy.
Subject: Bollocks
Date: Jul 16 2003 06:54:25 AM
Author: Kenny
What is it with rap artist interviews? They are always inarticulate ramblings of somebody who shows an incredibly low IQ. Why even publish this bollocks, unless to show the 'artist' as a moron.
I mean what kind of answer is
"I’m coming with new shit, futuristic 2005–2006 shit. And that’s it. Cuz RZA got some shit that’s dangerous, you know what I’m saying? He’s definitely the Abbot. And Roc-a-Fella’s coming tight as hell. So it’s just going to be something for the ear to hear. I got something for the ladies also. I got one with the Neptunes called “Operator.” That shit is hot. Future shit. "
Subject: re: fw: people who are angry
Date: Jul 15 2003 01:38:51 PM
Author: internet surfer
i thought it was funny, why don't you haters call up odb and come up with something better? where's the lovely love? this is the internet. we are in an internet age.
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Date: Jul 15 2003 11:45:12 AM
Author: N Co
hes not that fat you morons he just had his jaw broken or do you find all those big words difficult to understand.
Subject: what the hell!?!?!
Date: Jul 14 2003 01:56:01 PM
Author: Adam Prophet
where is ODB?!?! that looks like some scary bum that swallowed ODB. what do they get fed in jail??
Subject: --- God Bless da Crazy --
Date: Jul 11 2003 06:52:28 AM
Author: The R
Where would we be without the insane talents of Big Baby Jesus? From each dark period in ODB's life comes some truly 'futuristic shit'. So for the sake of mass entertainment, lets cheer Mr. McGirt on as he stumbles down the path of self destruction.
ODB don't visit...he visitates.
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Date: Jul 10 2003 12:35:12 AM
Author:
OL' DIRTY HUMPED ERIK INTO THAT WALL
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Date: Jul 08 2003 05:11:06 PM
Author: j
fatboy, meet gayboy
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Date: Jul 07 2003 07:42:34 AM
Author: Craiggy montana
Old dirt is looking chubby..hope he is still as fat in the booth..looking 4ward to hearing the neptunes stuff...who the hell is this Erik lavoie anyway???
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Date: Jul 05 2003 11:27:54 AM
Author:
How bout some love?! I pray to GOD that none of you skinny ass crackers find yourself on the inside. ODB has been through some shit. You fucks are fucks.
Subject: My Bitch
Date: Jul 04 2003 11:28:33 PM
Author: Bubba
ASK HIM IF HE GOT RAPED IN THE ASSHOLE
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Date: Jul 04 2003 11:27:35 PM
Author:
HOLY SHIT!!!!! OL' DIRTY IS A FATASS NOW. MORE CUSHION FOR THE PUSHIN'.
Subject: -
Date: Jul 04 2003 04:35:16 PM
Author: the sd
he got fat
Subject: well actually
Date: Jul 03 2003 03:25:32 PM
Author: segundo mass
"The formula is to attack everything at any given time. Just attack and shit like a waterfall, or like water in rapids or more like a fucking whirlpool, “Fuck you."
Ok, funny. But questions like "hey, you're a family man arent you" or "As an artist do you feel the need to comment on politics" are horrible. Its fucking ODB for god sakes. If Erik 'glitter-pants' Lavoie wrote the introduction then he should have asked better questions. Ask him about his level of involvement in Wu franchising. Or about the moment when he realized he'd gone totally over the edge.
Dont try to feign a conversation about his insane behavior in a roundabout way like "Do you see visions". Get some fucking balls about your line of questioning. We all love ODB but that doesnt mean you can't cut to the quick. I see visions. A vision of some rao rao shit going down while someone gets stabbed in the gut with a jailhouse toothbrush shivv.
Follow through with your punch next time, Erik. Its ODB, not elton john. Dont dance around what you mean to ask as if you might offend him.
Subject: hey segundo...
Date: Jul 03 2003 12:24:04 PM
Author: 12
you say: "You couldn't glean one entertaining piece of information from him"
i say EVERY DAMN WORD dirty says is an "entertaining piece of information." the guy is FUCKING CRAZY. i loved the piece.
Subject: The Motherfuckers Motherfucker
Date: Jul 03 2003 12:20:10 PM
Author: Ol' Dirty Bob
I'm so excited about the dirt dog lp I jerk off with 12 grain sandpaper! Fuck everybody Erik, I think the interview was dope!
Subject: ...
Date: Jul 03 2003 10:55:29 AM
Author: showerscene
no.
Subject: Damn
Date: Jul 03 2003 12:18:54 AM
Author: High Brotha
Damn Old DB looks constipated , some one get him a laxitive, before he pops
Subject: why
Date: Jul 02 2003 04:21:52 PM
Author: segundo mass
Vice really needs to get off the jock! (hehehe - just fucking shoot me).
You couldn't glean one entertaining piece of information from him regarding his long list of exploits? Thats like robbing deboers and forgetting to leave with some diamonds. Its just fucking bad. Bad and stupid like this interview.
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Date: Jul 02 2003 02:33:31 PM
Author: Ason Unique
That was so depressing I wanna go stab my mother so I can feel alive again. I guess being raped and beaten on a daily basis in your cell takes away your ability to be creative. Maybe you faggots at Vice could answer that one.
Subject: biters
Date: Jul 02 2003 01:40:03 PM
Author: tempest bledsoe
that interview was like the the wu without odb. corn ass.
congratulations homo.
Subject: worst issue ever
Date: Jul 02 2003 11:11:51 AM
Author: comic book guy
so i've been waiting for years to read a new odb interview, and you fuck it all up and have this sycophantic inside joke just throw in the towel and let him ramble. bbbbbbbbbbboooorrrriiinnnngg.
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