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BY VICE STAFF, PHOTOS BY MAURICIO GARCÍA
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| Legend has it that the whole thing started after the MTV Mexico program Telehit aired an episode with the topic “What is an emo?” The host of the show, an uglier version of Mark McGrath named Kristoff, gave one of those precious talk-show “Let me break it down for you” speeches in which he made crushingly acute observations about emos, such as “Emo is for people who are just starting to grow pubic hair” and “Emos only like a band because the lead singer is cute.” Not really amazing burns, but whatever. Still, his little quips started a war. Shortly after the airing of the episode, the proverbial kids organized an emo-versus-punk showdown at one of the main emo stomping grounds: the Glorieta de Insurgentes in Mexico City. |
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Anonymous, on Dec 12, 2008 wrote: sometimes i feel bad that i think this is so funny. most of the time i dont. PLEASE GOOGLE: MEXICAN EMOS. It has to be one of the funniest things i’ve seen in a while. && for some reason, those mexican "punks" confused GOTH/NUMETAL/CREEPS with punk.cute. |  | Anonymous, on Nov 26, 2008 wrote: "Anonymous, on Jun 21, 2008 wrote:
wtf? everyone who reads vice is fucking emo... you fucking hipsters are just overgrown emos"
haha. caught us. |  | dini069, on Sep 17, 2008 wrote: woop de FUCKIN DOO!!!!
mods versus rockers!
dicks!!! |  | Anonymous, on Jul 10, 2008 wrote: what you have to keep in mind is that most mexicans like to copy what the US kids are doing, but intensify it...often making it suck more. I’m not saying that the punk scene is cool at all in the US, but the mexicans think it is and they just place way more of an importance on it. Mayyybe they just don’t know any better. I don’t know. And yeah, this emo-punk fight happened awhile ago, what the fuck. I’m sure its still going on, but that was breaking news awhile ago. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 30, 2008 wrote: You actually misspelled "poseur" in your article, poseur. |  | elcarrito, on Jun 27, 2008 wrote: People that say "punk is dead" - they expect punk to be as it was in 77. Of course that kind of ’punk’ is dead. But punk is still a cultural driving force and there are many things that prove that. Punk has gone beyond the ’punk&destroy’ attitude of the 77 scene. Emos don’t understand that ’emo’ existed previously as just ’melodic punk’ or ’melodic hardcore’. They tend to think that they’re an independent musical scene, but they have everything to thank punk for it’s existence. Emos are just kids trying to be cute. Punks are just kids trying to be badass. I guess that’s why they hate each other so much. There’s no such thing as cute in badass. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 25, 2008 wrote: You assholes
Telehit is a different chanel from MTV, just to start with... which i can say they are both full of crap, I will never stand up for any of the people who work at them...
The riot at Insurgentes was before the show, and there was a previous riot in other parts of the country where "normal" kids got together to beat "emo" kids... that was it. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 24, 2008 wrote: ’Never Mind the Bulloks Here’s the Sex Pistols is one of the most perfect, beautiful albums ever released and if you can’t recognize that you are a sad, philistine tosser who can go fuck himself. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 23, 2008 wrote: "Rotten is living corpulent joke"
wait, people actually gave a shit about the Sex Pistols at any point in time? Probably the worst band to ever exist |  | Anonymous, on Jun 23, 2008 wrote: Who the fuck still hangs on to punk? Why don’t you kids create your own fucking subculture already! Joe is dead and Rotten is living corpulent joke. It’s over. Punk is not only dead, it’s fucking calcified. It’s about as vital and threatening now as the Village People in 1977.
Punks today reminds of the hippies that we used to make fun of in the 80s.
Create something new for Christ’s sake.
Signed-
Old Geezer |  | |  | Anonymous, on Jun 21, 2008 wrote: wtf? everyone who reads vice is fucking emo...
you fucking hipsters are just overgrown emos |  | Anonymous, on Jun 21, 2008 wrote: Both scenes have horrible music.
Both scenes have a shitty look.
Both scenes are pretty much shit.
What the fuck are they fighting over?
|  | Anonymous, on Jun 20, 2008 wrote: Jeez Vice really has it’s finger on the pulse on this topic. And punk is a pathetic subculture now? Maybe the hordes of greenday kiddies but who considered them punk in the first place? I agree with the post from the ’old and bitter’ guy, emo and punk are now so far from their roots they both need a new definition. The real pathetic subculture is Vice lovin’, narcissistic, skinny jean wearing, coke snorting sheep who make fun of others for the clothes they wear. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 19, 2008 wrote: QUE PEDO CON VICE Y MEXICO NETA NETA ES LO MEJOR QUE PUEDEN HACER? NO ME CHINGUEN HASTA EL PERIODICO ALARMA SACO ESTO HACE UN CHINGO JODER BUSQUEN GENTE AFUERA DE SUS PINCHES AMIGUITOS...NETA NO LA SIGAN CAGANDO O MEJOR NI ENTREN..VICE ES LA MAMADA DEJN MEXICO EN PAXXX |  | Anonymous, on Jun 19, 2008 wrote: ja! this was like loooooong time ago! wtf DIGGIN MEXICO IN NOT EASY THING!
|  | Neil D, on Jun 19, 2008 wrote: This shit is old, it was on youtube about months ago. Also I love how a punk is labelled a ’lame’ subculture by a magazine that booked the fucking modern day Misfits (basically a cover band filled with old hacks) on at Tales of the Jackalope. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 19, 2008 wrote: You fucking ignorants... Telehit and MTV are not the same thing, they’re actually competition. A little research before writing a piece never hurts. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 19, 2008 wrote: is it just me or is it the same model in every emo shot |  | Anonymous, on Jun 19, 2008 wrote: lol "fucking emo fags" the amount of times I’ve heard that yelled on the street in the past few years. It sorta became a way 4 joc dicks 2 insult anyone who wasnt dressed like them on a saturday night in town. but i agree, old news. this is a sad episode of culture i’de like 2 quickly forget. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: this shit’s ooold, fuck em both though. |  | Deadpool, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: To Niki Nakazawa
Telehit is not a part of MTV Mexico; Telehit is actually owned by Televisa which is largest media company in all of Latin-America. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: this is boring. whats wrong? |  | bandit a la mode, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: It’s just like Punk vs. New Wave... I mean they basically are just New Wavers that took a name from emotive hardcore music. Whatever. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: what really need is EMO’S VS Russian Nazi Skinheads |  | Anonymous, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: What the fuck has happened over the last couple of years?! Emo used to be "Spock" haircuts, bad sweaters and polyester pants crowded into some sweaty basement in San Diego watching a "June of 44" show. Yes, this bad spin-off of a scene sucked, but get it right.
Now everything "indie" is getting labeled "emo" by every shit commercial source from MTV to Itunes...
I may be getting old and bitter, but your all wet-behind-the-ears poseurs. |  | Anonymous, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: Weird. Are the ones on the right the punks? I was under the impression that this was a fight between softies and hardcore kids. But the punks are all too old to be doing this shit, and they’re even more attention-whoring and gross-looking than the emos! |  | Anonymous, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: Tickle me emo! |  | Anonymous, on Jun 18, 2008 wrote: fucking emo fags |  | |
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