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HAROLD BLOOM - PART 1


INTERVIEW BY JESSE PEARSON
PORTRAIT BY TARA SINN, MICHAEL MARSLAND/YALE UNIVERSITY


Harold Bloom is the preeminent literary critic in the world, and as such he is perhaps the last of a dying breed. Bloom adheres, passionately and single-mindedly, to the true and first tenet of lit crit—to take a book and judge it on its own merit, to see it as a thing in and of itself. The aesthetic value of the prose, the mastery of metaphor, strength and conviction of theme—these are the sorts of things that a critic like Bloom pays attention to.

Much of contemporary criticism takes a novel and holds it up to a series of incongruous and irrelevant sociological magnifying glasses—gender theory, feminism, Marxist analysis, and all sorts of postmodern muck. These critics, whom Bloom has memorably called the School of Resentment, have gained such strength that they have colored, even infected, writers whose careers have started since the Resentment began. So what we are seeing is criticism that changes literature for the worse and, as Bloom laments, contributes to the idiot-ization of the entire world. It’s a mess, and it may be irreversible.

And so we return to Harold Bloom, the old voice crying out in the wilderness, who, besides writing one of the most important and useful books on Shakespeare (
The Invention of the Human) and coining the term “the anxiety of influence”—an extremely useful theory of literary evolution—in the book of the same name, took on the whole of academia (for that is now just another name for the School of Resentment) in the towering 1994 work The Western Canon. It is in this book that Bloom first and most comprehensively did his part to preserve what’s important—essential, really—to humans from all the great works of writing that have been produced from the Bible and Gilgamesh all the way up to, well, right now. The professors and critics of the world will only get their hands on my copy of this book when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

Vice recently spoke with Bloom over the phone. He was in his office at Yale, where he teaches two classes a week.

Vice: I was hoping to talk first about The Western Canon.

Harold Bloom:
Do you mean the whole category, or what I wrote about it?

I mean your book.

But can we make an agreement? Let’s forget that damned list.

Ha. Do you mean the appendix in the back of the book that lists all the canonical works?

The list was not my idea. It was the idea of the publisher, the editor, and my agents. I fought it. I finally gave up. I hated it. I did it off the top of my head. I left out a lot of things that should be there and I probably put in a couple of things that I now would like to kick out. I kept it out of the Italian and the Swedish translations, but it’s in all the other translations—about 15 or 18 of them. I’m sick of the whole thing. All over the world, including here, people reviewed and attacked the list and didn’t read the book. So let’s agree right now, my dear. We will not mention the list.

It’s a deal.

I wish I had nothing to do with it. I literally did it off the top of my head, since I have a pretty considerable memory, in about three hours one afternoon.

It does seem like the sort of thing that a publisher would ask for to make the book more palatable to a casual reader.

It doesn’t exist. Let’s go on.

I started college in the same year that this book was published—1994.

1994. That’s a long time ago now. That’s 14 years. I am now 78 and I’ve come off a terrible year. I nearly died. But I’m all right now and I’m back teaching.

What happened?

A whole series of mishaps and illnesses, but the big one that knocked me out for six months and nearly killed me was that I quite literally broke my back in a fall. But let’s forget about it. It’s over now.

Looking at the book, and thinking about it being available right when I was starting college—

Where were you at college?

Well, that’s part of the problem. I went to a very small liberal-arts college with no grades and no majors. Let’s not speak its name. Or OK, let’s. It’s called Hampshire.

Oh yes, I know it very well. It was supposed to be very elite. I remember they once wanted me to talk there and I sort of dodged it because I felt it wasn’t going to work.

It wouldn’t have worked. And I feel like I should have just read your book instead of going to school there. But can you tell me, do you think that things have become better or worse in terms of the School of Resentment since the book was published?

Obviously they’ve gotten much worse. Just look at the enormous international as well as domestic dumbing down and decline in serious reading and indeed the falling apart, inevitably, of standards.

Yet you’re still soldiering on, teaching undergraduates.

But I’ve turned my back on the academy even though I still teach at Yale. I am part of no department—I became a department, or nondepartment, of one when I walked out on the English department back in, my God, way back there in 1976. That’s a long time ago now. Thirty-two years. But I started to write books pretty early on—certainly from about the late 1980s on to the present, so for about 20 years now, addressed to the general reader all over the world. And it has worked because I now have an enormous general readership, mostly in an incredible number of translations. So there is always a saving remnant of readers out there, as I have discovered. On the other hand, every single one of those countries, like our own, does suffer from a kind of dumbing down.

It’s in all sorts of culture and media, but it’s mostly in books.

It has something to do with, though not everything to do with, technological change—the fact that most kids grow up not reading deeply or going to a museum and staring at a picture or going to a concert and really listening to authentic music—including authentic jazz. People are trapped in the age of what you might call the triple screen: the motion-picture screen—and this is in ascending order of evil in terms of what it does to their minds throughout the world—the television screen, and finally the computer screen, which is the real villain.

It’s disappointing because the internet could have been such a good thing. It could have been like an indestructible Library of Alexandria, but with porn.

This goes back to what I said about the saving remnant. You’re part of that saving remnant. As I’ve been saying for years: If, in fact, you have an impulse to become and maintain yourself as a deep reader, then the internet is very good for you. It gives you an endless resource. But if, in fact, you don’t have standards and you don’t know how to read, then the internet is a disaster for you because it’s a great gray ocean of text in which you simply drown.

I started school, ostensibly at least, as a poetry major. But I couldn’t find a class there that wasn’t “Transgendered Chicano Poets of the Latter Half of 1982” or something. Not that I don’t like transgendered Chicano poets of 1982—they’re great, I’m sure. But I wanted to learn more than that. Or rather, I wanted to start from the very beginning and work my way up to transgendered Chicanos. I wanted the context of history, and I couldn’t get it at college.

Oh my dear, let’s not get into that. I’m so weary now of being called a racist or a sexist. I can’t take that anymore.

But where does this fear of reading the works of what some critics derisively call “dead white men” come from?

Well, we’re about to crash on the scale of 1837, the Great Panic, or 1929, and now we’re going to have the Panic of either 2008 or 2009. That is a consequence—it’s one of many consequences including a lot of innocent dead everywhere—of the way in which the counterculture ultimately, by its enormous recoil, helped give us George W. Bush and Sarah Palin. They are both semiliterate at best. They both exude self-confidence. And they both claim a direct relationship with God.

Hopefully she’ll disappear now, or just start a talk show or something.

She is a very, very dangerous person.

Agreed. But moving on… If a person wants to seriously approach literature on their own, outside of academia, it’s very difficult.

Without a real teacher, an authentic teacher, a real mentor, it’s very difficult for anyone to get started.


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Anonymous, on Jul 12, 2009 wrote:
I love him.
Anonymous, on Jan 11, 2009 wrote:
I enjoy Bloom, but the fact that he spawned Camille Paglia is a definite taint on his record.
Anonymous, on Jan 7, 2009 wrote:
someone asked about the list of canon according to bloom. go to his wikipedia page, scroll down to the links. it’s there, i’m just too lazy to go there and copy it.
Anonymous, on Jan 6, 2009 wrote:
how does he teach if he’s not part of a department? i don’t get it.
Anonymous, on Jan 6, 2009 wrote:
haha. yeah, the "my dear" thing would get old very quickly. it’s funny as shit in an interview though.
Anonymous, on Jan 5, 2009 wrote:
harold bloom is a huge, massive asshole, and that is why i love him so.
Anonymous, on Jan 3, 2009 wrote:
Things I like about Harold Blooms:
1) He’s so damn merrily pretentions and calls everybody "my dear."
2) He just wants to be Falstaff SO DAMN BADLY!
3) He’s wonderfully melodramatic.
4) He JUST called Sarah Palin dangerous. JUST NOW. It’s great.

Things I dislike about Harold Bloom:
1) He commits the same sins he condemns everyone else of, including James Wood, who is equally as readable and equally as vapid as he is.
2) He’s a talking point for morons who dislike other critics/theorists (yes, Bloom is a theorist - the "anxiety of influence" is heavily influenced by Freud) simply because they don’t actually understand those critics.
3) I hate people who do the exact opposite and immediately respond to Harold Bloom by throwing around literary-critical terms they don’t understand to dileaneate where they stand on the whole theory debate.
4) I have followers of Harold Bloom like this one. If you’d gone to a real school they wouldn’t have let you be a "poetry major," let alone not have a core curriculumn in literary history.

Basically, Harold Bloom is harmless, and bad readers of Harold Bloom are annoying as shit, "my dears."

-L2XE

BDW, everyone should go out and read Paul De Man, and actually understand him, then come back and rant some more about "resentment" or whatever when they have an idea of what respectable criticism looks like.
Anonymous, on Jan 3, 2009 wrote:
BTW -- the idea that deconstruction is somehow opposed to reading the canon is utterly misinformed. Leave the talk of "binary oppositions" aside -- Derrida is just a better, more attentive reader of (say) Shakespeare that Bloom will ever be. Bloom’s move, particularly in The Western Canon, is just to say "These books are great! Everybody should read Shakespeare and Chaucer!" Which is true, but it would be nice if he had some actual contribution other than cheerleading. And that contribution: "The anxiety of influence," a nearly useless paradigm that falls back on authorial neuroses we can’t possibly know. And I guess he has a book on "Genius" too, the less said about the better.
Moreover, can we mention something about Bloom’s obvious and acknowledged debt to Freud? And an Americanized Freud at that.
Bloom’s legacy is Camille Paglia, a cul-de-sac of lit. crit. if I ever I saw one.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
Deconstructing the author to the core of his binary opposition shows he’s kind of a douche that knows little of literary criticism.

I miss you, Derrida.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
read The Western Canon, feel your brain (and heart) enlarge and then feel free to comment on Bloom’s reductive/redactive tendencies. the man’s a generous genius + has done more to advocate literature and spark relevant debate than anyone in the 20th century.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
"school of" implies a multitude of perspectives and approaches in bloom’s imagining of it. he isn’t lumping them all together in terms of ideology, but in terms of how they all want to shred books using the wrong tools.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
Bloom’s whole lumping together of all perspectives other than adulatory aesthicism into a "School of Resentment" is itself "resentful." Deconstruction, Marxism, multiculturalism, postcolonialism -- these are all very distinct viewpoints, and some absurdities and abominations have come to pass because of them, but to throw them all together and dismiss them is ... stupid, not to put too fine a point on it. And then to say its the fault of TV and the Internet ... this isn’t a critical perspective, it’s just a grouchy tantrum.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
this might be taboo, but where is the list of the western canon?
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
Bloom’s idea of the School of Resentment is so dead-on, and it’s really a shame that people try to make him sound like a bigot because of his thought that aesthetic trumps ideology. I, for one, couldn’t agree with the man more.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
he is one of the few true pricks that i like. well, that might be a lie. pricks are kind of fun people to be around. but mr. bloom is a master, and even though half of his spiel is shit i don’t agree with, i still love hearing it.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
the photo of him (full body) is so perfect. it works better than trying to describe bloom to someone. just show them that instead.
lazy eyez killa, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
i’d love to hear what he thinks of tao lin.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
most "critics" (that term pisses me off in most cases) are self-righteous and boring. bloom is self-righteous but anything but boring. hearing him speak is nothing short of entertaining and he makes some pretty ballsy claims like some of the old testament being written by a woman and shakespeare being gay. this is a great interview, but it really just touches on the surface of a truly unique mind.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
the comment thread on the charlie rose video is great.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
bloom on charlie rose:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBqO3Q0eE3I
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
james wood, like so many writers, is a dick that takes himself much too seriously.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
hampshire collge? very, very interesting.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
i think there is still hope for the internet to become what people thought it would to begin with. don’t give up on it just yet.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
great interviews, jesse. i liked the harry crews one better, but this is great as well.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
the new republic article by james wood:
www.powells.com/review/2006_05_11.html?&PID=18
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
I really, really doubt that Bloom would approve of any of the fiction in this issue.
DabblesInPacifism, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
his idea of the "solitary reader" is spot on. reading clubs and oprah’s book selections have done more to harm literature than help it. if i have one more person recommend ’wicked’ to me i might keel over on the spot.
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
I didn’t know Bloom still teaches. He’s never going to retire, huh?
Anonymous, on Jan 2, 2009 wrote:
the world could use a few more harold blooms

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