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A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS A MEMBER OF A PARAMILITARY GANG IN THE WORST PART OF BELFAST


INTERVIEWS BY BEN FREEMAN AND BRUNO BAYLEY, PHOTOS BY BEN FREEMAN


The Brits may have left Northern Ireland and the IRA may be all but completely decommissioned, but Loyalist (the guys who loved the Queen and hated the IRA) areas of Belfast are still firmly in the grip of paramilitary thugs. Surprised? You shouldn’t be. Did anyone really think that decades of bloodshed and hatred would just morph into a pile of daisies with smiley faces on them just because some soldiers went somewhere else?

While the Catholic areas of town are not completely peaceful and calm, they are like the Elysian Fields compared to a neighborhood like the Protestant Loyalist streets of Tiger’s Bay, where I recently spent a weekend.

The paramilitaries there are police and criminals all in one. Even though there’s no IRA to fight against and therefore no political cause anymore, their soldiers are so inextricably linked to the way the criminal underworld operates that they cannot stop themselves from carrying on with their usual shenanigans, such as tarring and feathering their enemies in the street and kneecapping local “hoods” (which basically means “extreme Irish chavs”). They operate in much the same way that the gangs in American ghettos do. They are involved in punishment beatings, organized crime, and pressuring young men into joining up to become little mini-versions of them.

It was while I was in Tiger’s Bay that I met a lad named George at a youth center. We drank Coke and talked. He had been bullied into becoming a member of a Loyalist paramilitary organization, but he spent half the interview denying he was involved in paramilitary activity at all. Eventually he said fuck it and told me about stuff like his mate who got his head blown off.


Vice: So the Loyalist paramilitaries still control areas like Tiger’s Bay?

George:
Aye. They have a lot of power over people here. They control who comes into the area and who doesn’t.

And they won’t let Catholics in?

Ha! Well, of course they’d still kill a Catholic if he came into the wrong street, but on the day to day they’re actually more bothered about the UVF people from down the road in Mount Vernon.

But they’re a Loyalist group, like yours.

Aye, but my area is Tiger’s Bay UDA and they’re Mount Vernon UVF and I suppose you could say the two groups don’t get along that well. [laughs]

Despite the end of the Troubles, all the small armies and gangs that were operating at the time are all still fighting.

Yeah, but only in the Loyalist areas. Before the end of the Troubles I hated them Catholics, but now some of them are my best friends. The Catholics are lucky because in their areas there is no paramilitary presence at all these days. Around here, the paras will kill anybody they don’t like. They think they are the law. I hate them, but I fear them too.

When you were younger did you have confrontations with Catholics?

Every night, all along the interfaces. Park Avenue, Alexander Park too—there’s a peace wall through the middle of it. They would shout shit at us like “You orange this, you orange that” and we would shout back. It used to be a wasteland. We were always throwing bottles back and forth over it, bricks, shouting at each other. It was like a scene from Braveheart.

Were the fights organized?

Yeah. You’d go up there and take one of their houses, then they’d come back and take one of ours. Back and forth, every day. There was a siren in Tiger’s Bay, and if you heard it go you’d rush to the interface. If you were far away you’d get taxis there so as not to miss out on the action.

What about immigration to Belfast? Is that a problem for you?

I have a big dislike for Polish people and blacks. We have no jobs here anyway, and then they come and steal them and get cheeky in bars and that. They look at you, laughing. There are hundreds of them here. There are like 12 of them in each house. It’s all Polish, Romanians, blacks. They have more right to a job than me. They get all the benefits.

And what about this new thing called “hoods”? They’re the kids of paramilitaries and they’re like chavs, right?

I hate them. Scumbags. They’re just criminals. I can’t understand those people. Stealing from shops is fine because they have insurance. Stealing from homes in other areas is fine too. But taking from people in your own area is wrong. They’re also always getting high and that’s what makes them so crazy.

Are drugs a big problem now?

Yes. Prescription drugs mainly but also lots of blow and dope. I see people with tins of gas, which I think is disgusting.

Do the paras come down hard on the kids that use drugs?

Son, the paramilitaries are the ones that are selling the drugs to them! Both the UDA and UVF deal drugs. The IRA won’t ever sell drugs. Those guys catch you dealing and you are dead, simple as that.

What do the UDA get up to here?

They lend kids loads of money that they know they can’t pay back, then they say you’re either dead or with us now.

Do you know people who joined?

Yeah, but none of them joined for political reasons. Between here and Mount Vernon there is a long-running feud—that area is UVF and over here we are UDA. Kids from Tiger’s Bay are targets for UVF gunmen, so they join the UDA for protection. Once you are in you can only get out two ways: become a Christian or pay. It’s about two grand to get out.

Who did you join?

UYM, the young UDA. I joined because I was going to get a bad beating. I was caught by a gang of 30 UVF guys over Mount Vernon way. While I was being beaten I heard a guy break a bottle, but they never used it. I had to run. Luckily a lady in Tiger’s Bay pulled me into her house and said, “Stay here.” The gang were outside waiting for me and I had to call in a few big men from the Bay—UDA guys. They got me out. I got death threats after that so I joined the UYM.

What did being in the Protestant paramilitaries involve?

Meetings once a month. They were nonsense. I used to fall asleep. There were times when there was rioting, and we were told to be there and be ready to fight. We were restricted, though, like we couldn’t hit anybody first. Wait for them to hit you, then you can go back the next day and give them a real kicking.

Were you armed?

Nah, not really. We got some bombs made. That’s all. While I was in the UYM I saw my mate die. The side of his head was blown off by a gas bomb. Catholics threw a bomb over the interface and he was trying to throw it back over but he only got it to about here [positions hand next to head] when it went off. The bombs were set with very short fuses so as to stop people from throwing them back. It was tit for tat. We threw them into Catholic areas too.

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Anonymous, on Apr 14, 2009 wrote:
the kid who was his mate must have been spacer...
Anonymous, on Mar 31, 2009 wrote:
i dont get it
Anonymous, on Mar 23, 2009 wrote:
putting all the loyalists in gas chambers seems a rather ironic reaction to ’neo-nazis’, no?
Anonymous, on Feb 16, 2009 wrote:
Gather all those neo-nazi loyalist inbred cunts in a gas chamber and kill them without mercy. Those subhumans don’t deserve any better

And no, it’s not about religion (fuck religion) - it’s about cleaning the world out of extremist, right-wing, racist "human" rubbish
Anonymous, on Feb 4, 2009 wrote:
Keep up the articles on these Orange types. It just shows what a bunch of psychos they are all.

Hoo Hah Up the ’RA Say Hoo Hah Up the ’RA
Anonymous, on Nov 18, 2008 wrote:
Some scary comments here, what with people branding all 1.5 million people in Northern Ireland ’bigots’ and ’animals’.

I’m Northern Irish and live in London - do I call my fellow Londoners an entire city of knife-wielding gang members?

How’s about a little restraint and clear-thinking? Just a thought.
Anonymous, on Nov 15, 2008 wrote:
Hopefully Northern Ireland will never rejoin the Republic because who in their right mind would want 1.5 million bigots added to the population... well Zimbabwe perhaps. Little scamps.
Anonymous, on Nov 14, 2008 wrote:
Nothing says ’scary loyalist paramilitary’ more than an oversized Fair Isle pullover..
Anonymous, on Nov 3, 2008 wrote:
this is all a little bit too homoerotic for me...
Anonymous, on Oct 28, 2008 wrote:
catholics or protestants... what does it matter.. ther is NO ’GOD’ anyway!

so hush your pikey scumbag mouth and go fuck your mother! xx
Anonymous, on Oct 23, 2008 wrote:
Sitting in a youth centre in Tigers Bay? You are an idiot.
Anonymous, on Oct 23, 2008 wrote:
I wouldn’t be in any way surprised if the person who wrote this was Republican pretending to be Loyalist.
Anonymous, on Oct 20, 2008 wrote:
Total fucking horseshit about the Ra never selling drugs. They didn’t pay for all those guns with Post Office heists and NORAID contributions alone. Punishment beatings/kneecappings were only ever handed out to non-IRA sanctioned dealers and were primarily a PR campaign in shitty Catholic areas where they were desperate enough to get the heroin out that they’d support paramilitaries to do it. If this kid had half a clue what he was talking about he’d have been fully aware of that.
Anonymous, on Oct 17, 2008 wrote:
What a scary jumper.
Anonymous, on Oct 16, 2008 wrote:
re re re cunt: No one said there weren’t problems in London. Where does it say that? Where? Who said there were no problems in London? This is an article about BELFAST. Do you have eyes or a brain that you could call upon before polluting cyberspace with your fucking reactionary ill-considered retardedness?
Anonymous, on Oct 16, 2008 wrote:
re:re:cunt. check the statistics fuck hole. bombs???? london???? buses with no fucking roofs. silly brit.
Anonymous, on Oct 15, 2008 wrote:
I heard an interesting news headline on Irish TV: "Belfast -- safer than Detroit!"
Anonymous, on Oct 14, 2008 wrote:
re. more respect for our own communities over here. that was a suitably shit-headed comment for a article about violence in belfast. foam at the mouth much, you ignorant, savage fuck? you’re all a bunch of animals, orange or green.
as for the "low knifecrime," too bad about that bomb crime, eh? you silly twat.
Anonymous, on Oct 14, 2008 wrote:
deal wey it! less drugs, and knife crime because we have more respect for our own communities over here, and yer ma and da would hit you a clout if they heard you were dirtying the good kitchen knife. Only no balls yanks and brits need guns and knives. al knock yer fuck in mate. stop hanging round youth centres.
Anonymous, on Oct 14, 2008 wrote:
Ooh AH UP THE RA!!!

Tiocfaidh Ar La
Anonymous, on Oct 14, 2008 wrote:
delinquents. where’s that devil guy you talked about in the last issue? he would eradicate them
Anonymous, on Oct 14, 2008 wrote:
what the fuck is wrong with belfast?
Anonymous, on Oct 14, 2008 wrote:
just to recap

grown men supplying coke to under 18 yr olds and breaking kids legs.

sounds like another parallel to the consumer based capitalist society where the rich get richer and the poor get robbed and beaten.
Anonymous, on Oct 14, 2008 wrote:
damn thats cool
Anonymous, on Oct 14, 2008 wrote:
I’m from Belfast and I don’t give a fuck about religion. However, although its sad to say that the reason knifecrime and such is so low in Belfast is becuase of the presence of older paramilitries. They prevent the emergence of more random acts of violence.

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