VICE FASHION - BABY BABY MOMMAS
PHOTOS by Richard Kern
STYLING by Annette Ramos
All clothes models’ own |
| Ayanna, 15, and Aniyah, 3 months |
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Vice: Was being pregnant hard for you?
Ayanna: All my family was fine with it, except for my older brother. He’s mad at the guy and mad at me too.
How tough was it giving birth? You’re tiny.
It wasn’t bad. I did the childbirth naturally and I was only in labor for five hours. I just enjoy being a parent. I like spending time and having her next to me. It’s a new opportunity, getting to learn how babies develop. They grow right in front of your eyes.
Don’t you worry that you’re missing out on all the fun years of your youth?
No. Whenever I want to go out, I go out. I don’t think I’m missing out on anything, because all I used to do is sometimes hang out, chill with my friends, that sort of thing. But I can still do that, you know. It’s not like I’m missing out on anything that’s important. |
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(l-r): All clothes model’s own; Samantha Pleet dress, House of Waris necklace
| Laporsh’e, 16, and Tamia, 5 months |
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Vice: Are you still in school?
Laporsh’e: I’m going into the 11th grade. My goal right now is to finish high school so I can go to college. I want to be like a social worker or a child psychologist.
How much does your schoolwork eat into the amount of time you get to hang out with Tamia?
At my school they don’t really give us homework, so it makes it easier to spend a lot of time with my daughter. I mostly take her outside for walks and read her books in English and Spanish. We like the Cat in the Hat books.
Do you still have time to hang out with your old friends?
I didn’t really have friends. I’m the type of person that likes to stay by myself. In my spare time I mostly read, and I write poems. I’ve always wanted to write my own book of poetry. |
(t-b): All clothes model’s own; Paul Frank shirt
| Shamecca, 17 and Xavier, 10 months |
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Vice: How do you feel about having had Xavier when you were still a kid?
Shamecca: I don’t regret having him. I could have waited, but it happened and now I’m learning how to raise him and what’s best for me.
Did your folks give you a lot of grief when they found out you had a bun in the oven?
They were really supportive. In the beginning they told me, “If you want a baby, you can have a baby. Right now is not the time, but whatever your decision is we’re still going to be behind you.” When she had me, my mother was the same age as I was when I had Xavier. Same hospital too.
How hard was it adjusting to being a mom?
I’m young, but I haven’t got to enjoy my childhood. I can’t go a lot of places. But usually I’ll just get over it. I’ll take my son with me, or I’ll figure out something else to do. There are a lot of times you feel you really need your own space, but that’s your child forever. It’s like you’re married. |
(l-r): Harajuku Lovers shirt, Hooch skirt; all clothes model’s own
| Leslie, 18, and Demein, 2 |
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Vice: What are you up to right now?
Leslie: Finishing up school. I’ve got two semesters left. My ultimate goal is to become a midwife. For me to be self-sufficient doing that, I have to get a bachelor’s degree, which will take another four years.
I didn’t realize there were midwives anymore.
Sure. I work with a group called the Community Birthing Project doing counseling for women to help them through the labor process and have natural childbirth.
What’s so great about natural childbirth?
Women’s bodies are built to give birth. It was happening for thousands of years before medical intervention came along. Doctors think the painkillers put the woman out of her misery, but ultimately that’s what her body was made for.
How did your pregnancy go?
Considering the fact that I was 16, it was pretty good. |
(l-r): Paul Frank dress; WeSC shirt and pants, House of Waris necklace and earrings
| Chenelle, 19, and Latasha, 1 |
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Vice: Was it hard breaking the news to your family when you found out you were pregnant?
Chenelle: Oh, my family was happy. My mother had me when she was young. It wasn’t that hard for me, and it hasn’t been that hard taking care of her.
But do you have pretty much no social time for yourself?
Yeah, but I don’t really have friends. I’ve kind of got associates and then one best friend. She’s got a son who’s two so we’ll hang out sometimes with our kids.
What are you going to do once you finish with high school?
My plans are basically just to watch my daughter grow. After I graduate out of high school I’m going to go to trade school or beauty school. Then I want to rent my own business place, somewhere where I can have my own space and set up my own beauty shop.
Have you cut a lot of hair?
Only on a mannequin so far, but I like doing makeup and hair: Braiding, relaxers, the Shirley Temple, the Twist…
What’s Latasha got right now?
Those are just low ponytails with twists. |
(l-r): L.A.M.B. shoes; Harajuku Lovers shirt, Lois jeans, House of Waris necklace; L.A.M.B. shoes
| Caren, 20, Raymond, 4, Starr, 2 |
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Vice: Do you still run with the same crew as before you were pregnant?
Caren: I’m still with the kids’ father. We get along. He helps out with them as much as he can, but it can be tough because he’s so young. One of my friends also had a baby so we have a lot in common. But my old best friend, we don’t see each other too much.
Why not?
Having kids is a lot of responsibility, and most of the places you want to go you can’t take your kids with you. I’m 20 and I’ve never been to a club or a bar. I just haven’t had that experience yet.
How’d your family deal with it when you first got pregnant?
My mother wasn’t so happy, but things happen. She was a teen mom herself so she understood. She was 17 when she had me.
So everything’s smooth right now?
I’m taking GED classes and I also work at a counseling center for teen moms and at a bakery.
What do you and your kids like to do when you get time together?
We go to the park or the Bronx Zoo. Raymond loves the monkeys. |
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Subject: tax me
Date: Oct 08 2006 04:13:15 PM
Author: Ablejack
This may be a little off topic but "a darkie" has gotten it right. We are priviledged to pay taxes. I'm glad some of my time and money is spent in my fellow citizens welfare. I don't always agree how each dollar is spent, but social programs are in all of our best interests. Since when is everyone so inhumanitarian? Has the taxcut, everyman for himself, screw your neighbor and your community, conservatism become cool?
We should all happily pay more taxes to aid our community. If some abuse the system, well tough shit. It's abused on both sides. The tax cheatin' rich are way worse thieves than the baby havin' poor.
Subject: you all
Date: Oct 08 2006 07:13:55 AM
Author: fuck haute couture
thanks, dickface. I stand corrected. Not.
Subject: give me a break
Date: Oct 07 2006 11:43:57 PM
Author: j
"...each and every one of them has plans to further their education and do something with their lives"
They're teen mothers, they're supposed to say that, it's the socially acceptable answer and not surprising.
I was surprised, though, at how the first girl was the only girl who seemed to not have been affected socially, I wonder if she just dumps her kid on her parents, and unfortunately most of them mentioned that their mothers had them at the same young age. I wonder how their kids will fair with two generations of irresponsibility raising it.
Subject: fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck haute couture
Date: Oct 07 2006 06:24:34 PM
Author: sugar tits
and another thing, don't bring race into this. in every culture there are selfish kids. now shush and bow to me
Subject: fuck fuck fuck fuck haute couture
Date: Oct 07 2006 06:16:05 PM
Author: sugar tits
now melon head you are a nutter. did i say that these kids should have had an abortion? in your whacked out mind you are making things up. these kids are uneducated--they do not realize that they have potential besides having kids. do you see the really smart kids getting knocked up whilst in their teens? no, you don't. education teaches you that you can wait and that you should pursue other things before having kids. let's face it, how can a 16 yr old pay for their child? that is selfish to bring a kid into the world and then not be able to afford it.
they are also selfish as they do not display self control due to lack of education. and it is great that these kids are saying that they want to do something with their lives. did i say otherwise? melon head nut job, stop inventing things. get over yourself honey.
Subject: sigh...
Date: Oct 07 2006 08:08:36 AM
Author: fuck haute couture
ALSO did you notice, although I´d be surprised if these were the only people you´d ever known of, who had kids out of wedlock and before they were economically secure, that each and every one of them has plans to further their education and do something with their lives? Did you notice that not one of them has said they plan to sit at home and drink 40s and collect welfare?
Subject: my melon head
Date: Oct 07 2006 08:07:24 AM
Author: fuck haute couture
for gods sake. "selfish and uneducated" and whatever else, blah blah blah. Basically you´re saying that you´re not allowed to have kids unless you´ve graduated college and started a career and made a down payment on a house and joined the church choir. What the fuck ever. Kids get pregnant because they have sex, unprotected or not protected properly, and if they don´t have an abortion, they´re selfish and dumb? Right? GET A FUCKING CLUE.
I´m a female with no kids, who doesn´t want kids, and who would abort one without a second thought if I found out I was pregnant. But passing judgement on someone because they decided not to take a step that could potentially cause serious damage to their bodies and their psyche, is just as wack as calling me a melon head. Having kids has been a natural part of human culture for 500,000 years and now the societal standards of the last 100 years is supposed to make everyone change their minds?
Did I already mention you should get a fucking clue?
Subject: Maybe it's just obvious.
Date: Oct 07 2006 06:01:44 AM
Author: Yet Another Black.
After dealing with numerous articles like these, it's come to my attention that VICE may not be racist, but a vast majority of it's READERS are! Not only racist, but undereducated, misinformed and incapable of producing an idea that'll lead to a solution to a problem. (Any problem, take your pick!)
Is it any coincidence that this article is in an issue that includes three "The End of Human Kind on Earth" articles as lectures given to children, who had about as much of an inclination to solve "the problem" as those who left comments here. (Including me)
I'm just saying, look at the fucking context, people. Look at what you contributed to the end of Humans.
Subject: fuck fuck fuck haute couture
Date: Oct 06 2006 08:32:32 PM
Author: sugar tits
listen now, melon head. "tribes" may have their social structure as such, but in modern society these kids aren't ready to have kids. in these tribes they are probably taught from birth and have an organized social system w/in to accomodate children having children. and how is the "tribe" system correct? they may not frown upon kids having kids as it is part of their culture, but face it, in civilized society these kids are selfish and uneducated.
Subject: fuck fuck haute couture
Date: Oct 06 2006 07:52:31 AM
Author: wake up call
Hey, you last dummy, thanks for letting us all know how "the tribe" does it. Now how about we break a bottle over your head and see if that soft melon retains it's shape.
You suck.
Subject: solid example
Date: Oct 05 2006 07:30:42 AM
Author: fuck haute couture
reading these comments is like breaking open a bottle and the contents retain the shape of the bottle. It amazes me how our culture has shaped some of your opinions so much that when asked to think for yourself, you continue to conform to what you´ve been told is acceptable.
Since when is having babies a sin? Way before law offices and social workers and tax dollars and welfare, people have been making babies, and guess what? You don´t find some 22-year-old boy with no wife or kids or responsibilities complaining because he has to hunt an extra deer so the young family can eat. You don´t find that the tribe expects the woman to compensate for her burden to society. You find the celebration of a birth, and the village binding together to make sure everyone is as comfortable and healthy and well-fed as possible.
And don´t give me that bullshit about how living in the world today is healthier and more fulfilling than living a simpler life without societal constraints, because I don´t believe you. Only feudal europeans believe that shit. Go finish your bottle of Wellbutrin.
Subject: black people...
Date: Oct 04 2006 04:23:30 PM
Author: jk
love to have babies young. I guess it's because they're all millionaires and they can afford it.
NO RACISM. EVERY STEREOTYPE EVER IS TRUE.
Subject: Babushka yeh yeahhhhh
Date: Oct 04 2006 09:17:06 AM
Author: Piss Wizard
Near my house the teenagers that have kids also have warrants out for shop lifting bright green eye shadow and wear bootleg fubu shit. There is nothing more pleasant than watching a 16 year old call her kids cunts and bitches at the top of her lungs at the train station, while punching them.
Subject: Demein
Date: Oct 03 2006 04:59:57 AM
Author: the abortionist
I bet that kid's going to grow up to be a basketball player! NOT!
Subject: ..
Date: Oct 01 2006 08:52:49 AM
Author: jess
As a white rich and educated bitch all I can say is...I am insured and don't need to get an abortion. I get injections.Have any of you at Vice heard of that???!!!
For you low or middle class idiots: There are many reasons not to get an abortion because it can mess your health up.
To Vice: You people must be really low on self esteem to try and jump around on other people.
Subject: fuck
Date: Sep 30 2006 09:51:23 PM
Author: thug mcgraw
all this babbling about PC shit and foster care reform...write a goddamn congressman or something...
now...
what i got to do to get my info passed to Caren? mommy pussy is the best pussy.
Subject: I'm seeing Idiocracy tonight!
Date: Sep 29 2006 05:49:53 PM
Author: childless 20-something
"my 17 yearold white trash stepbrother got his 16 yearold fostersister pregnant. not a single word about the innappropriateness of this has been spoken because it doesnt need to be said, instead my family says things like "what a little blessing!""
Well, one of the solutions to some problems might be in foster care reform. How can you break the cycle of anything when foster wards are put into poor trash families who can't even afford their own kids and are being foster "parents" for the cash? WTF?
Subject: A solution?
Date: Sep 29 2006 11:56:04 AM
Author: F'ing tragedy
If we're going to have a welfare state we should at least give the handouts to those who have a reasonable chance of being reformed into contributing members of society (i.e. younger people). Take kids away from unfit parents and put them in orphanages or boarding schools far away from bad neighborhoods. Enforce high academic standards and teach them hard work, individualism, respect and to value education. Then, if they can't get things together when they are adults, let them starve a day or so before they realize the flow of handouts has been turned off and they will need to work to survive (yes, literally). Cut off food stamps, housing vouchers and other aid to non-disabled adults and phase out old-age entitlement programs. Let voluntary charity serve the deserving needy. Encourage people to live within their means and save for their own retirements if they want to retire some day.
We can make a good faith effort to help people who have bad luck, but why the hell should we be forced to work our asses off so that people making bad decisions can piss their lives away more comfortably and spawn new generations of parasites? The emphasis should be on promoting good behavior, stopping bad behavior and ending the despair needless poverty creates rather than subsidizing bad decisions through entitlement programs.
Subject: the fashion part of the spread
Date: Sep 28 2006 07:02:53 PM
Author: liz
I like the dress that..what's her name? Laporsh’e?! Jesus Christ, with a name like that no wonder she has a baby.
Well, I like the dress they gave her to wear, anyway. And the boots, too.
Subject: every one of you...
Date: Sep 28 2006 05:52:38 PM
Author: can i say
...played right into what "Waterface" said -seventh comment from the bottom.
& since i'm not one to go against the grain...
better is the America with more black women thinking like Condi Rice instead of these tax-burdens, fo-realz.
Subject: hmmmmm
Date: Sep 28 2006 05:00:14 PM
Author: erm
weird thing is I know this white girl who got 2 kids, so what I am wondering is why none of them got interviewed. ya´ll muthafuckas on some racist type shit. how about we clean it up......maybe hire some Black folks to work at Vice, might help keep things smooth.
Subject: Rich white female
Date: Sep 28 2006 05:57:40 AM
Author: WELL, WELL
Why is a rich white female who aborts considered so smart?
If she's so rich and smart wouldn't she just be on the pill??
Subject: hippies
Date: Sep 27 2006 11:41:55 PM
Author: sugar tits
who is the hippie, me? i shave my armpits.
Subject: everybody is fucked up
Date: Sep 27 2006 08:30:28 AM
Author: Whatever
I don't see why you're all worried about these babies growing up to be crap.
Look at how many spoiled, rich white kids there are, who are raised but older parents that end up completely brainless or without morals, like VICE people.
Subject: Wow
Date: Sep 26 2006 06:58:23 PM
Author: klye
OMG Could some of you guys be a little more ignorant and disgustingly racist?!?
Subject: Huh?
Date: Sep 26 2006 10:22:57 AM
Author: Me
You know a lot of research scientists making a phone number do ya?
The crazy thing is, black kids start out so cute and good. How they end up is a different story.
Subject: fatbob
Date: Sep 26 2006 12:55:55 AM
Author: korthefiend
my aunt had her daughter when she was 16. this was thirty plus years ago when shit was still shameful. She's now a phd research scientist who makes millions. her daughters a little bitter but no biggie.
there is always going to be poor, ignorant people in the city or country pumping out kids. The people in this country and elsewhere who have left that way of life behind are a tiny minority in this world. who really gives a shit?
Subject: response to post
Date: Sep 25 2006 10:39:41 AM
Author: J
"minorities are generally religious idiots that do not believe in abortion" twat
Subject: Vice never fails....
Date: Sep 25 2006 10:28:24 AM
Author: Marvin Merk Yo Ass
To incite the most passionate and meaningless rants out of its readers and I love this more than I love my grandmother.
Just the mental image of some of you readers sitting in front of your computers soo incredibly pissed off by the comment one of your fellow readers just posted gives me a boner. And what is even better is that they can post the most racist, ignorant, intelligent, humorous, and belittling comments and there is not a goddamn thing any of you fucks can do about it. SO suck it! HA!
Wow - great job with these Fashion Photos! There is so much shit I would like to throw in the form of my opinion right now but I have just used up all of my time reading these comments, which were quite amusing.
Hooray for racists, hippies, and democrats!!
I wonder what the statistics show for teenage mothers who have actually made anything of their lives, and by made anything I don't mean have a job as a fast food manager. (Probably not much)
Oh, and to the moron asking why only minorities are shown in these photos - look up the answer online before you ask such a dumb fucking question.
Burning in hell!
Subject: i remember you...
Date: Sep 25 2006 01:59:01 AM
Author: a darkie
OK, we live in what's called a "democracy". And thankfully in this "democracy" the majority of people don't vote for candidates who are in favor of letting poor people and their kids starve and go without textbooks, teachers, or medicine (which pretty debatable anyway considering the number of people with no insurance - I'll bet none of these girls do). So quit your bitching. Considering the fact that you have the time to surf the net from home (ok I'm assuming) and make boring posts on some silly fashion "zine's" forum, I'm gonna bet that you most likely have more choices available to you than any of these girls or their kids. Same for the rural white folks you claim to be defending. So if you don't like any of your taxes going to help YOUR society in the most basic ways, then move somewhere with a non-representative system of government where the poor and their progeny live like scavengers. Maybe China?
p.s. thanks for not fronting about being a racist. I guess that's kinda refreshing in a way.
Subject: Dis Racist Ain't Frontin'
Date: Sep 25 2006 01:54:31 AM
Author: George Lincoln Rockwell
"ian" said:
"man, i come from a rural county in the redneck eastern shore of maryland which had the highest per-capita teen pregnancy rate in the state, much higher than 85%-black baltimore. so don´t even front, racists. ....and you pay far more taxes for fuel for secret fighter jets than for welfare."
OK...one point at a time. I don't want to pay for fighter jets OR welfare. How's that suit ya? How come every time the VALID point is raised that I have no CHOICE whether to pay for LaPorsh'e's screaming child, some doofus invariably says, "Well, you're forced to pay for THIS, too!"? Does that somehow make it OK that I have to pay for LaPorsh'e's child? You're using bad, dumb, emotional non-logic there, fella.
And without even bothering to check your statistics regarding Maryland, and while ignoring the knee-jerk reaction of every misguided, self-hating, protected white person to take verbal shits on rural white Americans whenever anyone dareth question the sanctity of their precious urban groups (which they're scared to live near), here are the NATIONAL stats straight from the Centers for Disease Control:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/factsheets/teenpreg.pdf
"While all groups have experienced declines in teenage pregnancy, the rates for black and Hispanic women in 2000 were at least twice the rates for white women."
At LEAST twice.
Subject: Snickerdoodle.
Date: Sep 24 2006 11:10:59 PM
Author: Snickerdoodle
Good news. Black and Latinas are easy.
Bad news. They haven't realized how simple it is to get an abortion yet.
I'll sticks wit' dem white girls.
Subject: hmmm..
Date: Sep 24 2006 09:57:50 PM
Author: itsmeobviously
young upperclass white females have been pregnant too, only difference is they just have abortions.
so what does that say about them?
why does one or two black teens reflect on the black race as a whole?
if that's a fact, then white trash have a reflection on white people as a whole as well
..they're not a minority you dumb fucks, they're still as white as yourself.
i hate/love that they protrayed this article with nothing but black/latino females that just gives something else for, i'll just say people, to look down upon but at the same time to show that you can still make it in life, even with a unexpected twist.
i agree no child should have a name that'll take him/her months after he/she's in second grade to figure out how to spell, but neither should one child have two names (Mary Jo, Billy Bob).
Before you get your tude in a tiffy, remember all the same things have already been said just directed more towards YOU, so think before you type..and remember no one is greater than the next person, everyone makes mistakes, and some more than others, and if they do, then let them, that's their life. If your life is as grand and luxurious (in other words better than theirs) as you make it out to be, then live it, and get the fuck OUT of theirs. Thanks.
Subject: oh white folks
Date: Sep 24 2006 04:22:57 PM
Author: ghb
the dual nature of a people? spoken like a true GED recipient. ever seen a nascar event, or been to a midwestern state fair? try dealing with that shit.
p.s. the 1st girl said she just likes watching them grow.....she could've just bought some fucking sea monkeys
Subject: *Reality*
Date: Sep 24 2006 03:36:29 PM
Author: Thomas
Why is everybody pissed off that all the girls are black? Who cares? Whatever race you are, teenage parenting ain't all chill. These girls are in school, working or have a supportive family.
Way to make teenage parenting look easy. What is this; best case scenario? "My family supports me". Thats great. Why talk to you, what do you have to say? Where are the real struggling people.
Subject: zvXCBx
Date: Sep 24 2006 01:32:20 PM
Author: dafzv
Demein is cute.
Subject: not just black people
Date: Sep 23 2006 06:28:43 PM
Author: ian
man, i come from a rural county in the redneck eastern shore of maryland which had the highest per-capita teen pregnancy rate in the state, much higher than 85%-black baltimore. so don´t even front, racists. this is about being poor and not having access to good educational oppurtunities.and you pay far more taxes for fuel for secret fighter jets than for welfare.
Subject: sigh
Date: Sep 23 2006 06:06:11 PM
Author: reyrey
there is probably a racist bone in all of us, but using it to shock and slather on insults is not funny, productive, interesting, or get this:shocking. the minute i saw the headline and saw these beautiful (if misdirected) children i knew what i was going to read down here in the comments. racism is in the system, at every turn in every city, in yr books, television, whatever. and whats on yr paychecks! jesus christ, this shit is old.
Subject: baby baby mamas
Date: Sep 23 2006 03:47:40 PM
Author: the truth
my 17 yearold white trash stepbrother got his 16 yearold fostersister pregnant. not a single word about the innappropriateness of this has been spoken because it doesnt need to be said, instead my family says things like "what a little blessing!" because no one wants to face the fact that that kid is gonna be a fucked up loser just like his parents because they were too young. we all know it already, so we dont dwell on it. thats what these girls are doing, its called a brave face. it's not so bad afterall right? we can manage, this isnt a huge mistake like everyone said it was gonna be, having kids is a cinch! maybe someone will pay my bills for me... maybe maybe i can get those new harajuku lovers clothes i was looking at...
Subject: i'm not pregnant yet
Date: Sep 23 2006 03:57:56 PM
Author: annette
and i'm not black either
Subject: i love my baby's momma
Date: Sep 23 2006 03:47:28 PM
Author: tamir
theres only one way to keep it up with bitches like these and that's bareback baby
Subject: I'm sure your moms were brain surgeons
Date: Sep 23 2006 01:09:41 PM
Author: whatevs
This is a great example of Vice making a fashion spread more than a fashion spread, and in a significant way. Conceptually, these usually suck bad, but this one's right on. Most people, white folks especially, would consider young black mothers in terms of statistics, which is tougher to do one-on-one. I appreciate that at least it has triggered some pretty passionate, if vitriolic responses. I say good work.
Subject: Special schools
Date: Sep 23 2006 12:02:10 PM
Author: and dumb bitches.
Oh, i can't wait until Laporsh'e is a child psychologist! That'll totally happen. Everyone i've ever known who got a PhD went to those high schools that didn't really give homework. That makes sense.
Subject: baby moms
Date: Sep 23 2006 09:39:45 AM
Author: scared of you
The piece on the young teen moms and these comments create a pretty good picture of our society today or at the very least give the staff at VICE something to laugh at in their spare time. It's all pretty depressing.
Few people would defend teen pregnancy today but it was not long ago when that was the norm.
When the most intelligent thing you say about someone is call them a turdling, illiterate cum bucket, baby making machine, antidepressant swallowing rich bitch, baby choco-hamster it speaks volumes about you. It says that you sre not so bright. Thankfully some people actually have interesting things to say.
I dare the rest of you to post a comment using your real name since you aren't being racist (it just seems that way).
Incidentally american taxpayers give far more of their tax dollars in the form of "welfare" to subsidize farmers than for aid to poor families in urban areas. Check the facts, it's true. No one seems terribly concerned about that. Hard working citizens of the city of new york pay far more in tax to NY state and the federal government than we get back from either. Give us our money back!
READ A BOOK SOMETIME.
Subject: .
Date: Sep 23 2006 07:25:11 AM
Author: .
what do you mean! its cool to be a minority! didn't you hear that green day song!
Subject: Teen Pregnancy Explained
Date: Sep 23 2006 01:57:05 AM
Author: Sh'quee'qa Higgins
"At my school they don’t really give us homework..."
BANG!
There's your problem.
Subject: Pro-Choice?
Date: Sep 23 2006 01:46:17 AM
Author: Bo Gritz
I never voted to pay taxes to support these subliterate troglodytic monstrosities, yet I face jail time if I refuse to pay taxes for their oatmeal and textbooks and hospital visits, anyway.
Not much "choice" in that, fair-skinned liberal friends. So don't even TALK about choice here.
I also agree with the guy who said VICE isn't trying to be racist here. They're trying to be "edgy" in typically protected, cornfed, trust-fund Canadian fashion: "See—we're not GROSSED OUT by these girls, even though any sane person with discriminating tastes would be! Give us more coke! We can HANDLE it!"
And as far as "minorities" go—I don't see any Asians represented. Asians don't pop out baby choco-hamsters at this rate. They don't concoct retarded names such as LaPorsh'e and Damein and Shamecca, either.
Subject: shush
Date: Sep 22 2006 10:28:59 PM
Author: sugar tits
we can't blame these kids until money is put into the poor and uneducated areas so that they are taught that they can do more with their lives, that they can wait to have kids and persue their careers and dreams first. but they have very little success in their communities to look up to. so what else is there to do? have a kid. it will be a neverending cycle until they are taught otherwise. dropping a box of condoms in their neighborhood is not enough. they have no role models.
Subject: please kill it
Date: Sep 22 2006 09:46:17 PM
Author: oh white folks
here is something white people will never have to ever experience. the dual nature of a race of people. as in some of us(black people) have our shit together but then we have to get slapped in the face with bullshit like this. man. i dont think any of you here have shit to say really. sure its fucked up.
when you get down to it(and im not defending the girls) these people MIGHT feel like soceity has nothing to offer(roll your eyes if you want) but shit is real. Young inner city black kids are dying all the time, but i digres....Nas said it best when he said, "there are ways out of the ghetto but no signs say out"
its a lot deeper than what you guys really understand. i would love to have a very open dialouge about this sort of a topic but, peoplea re really afraid. to open up.
Subject: babies
Date: Sep 22 2006 09:26:13 PM
Author: a guy
and you would enforce this baby-permit system how? Forced abortions or sterilizations? Siezing screaming newborns from their moms and putting them in state custody? And what happened to keeping the government out of girl's vaginas? I'm pro-choice. These girls have every right to choose to be parents, even if they're shooting themselves in the foot. Unless you're into eugenics (lets just hope that you're not), this is a problem that government just isn't gonna solve. Anyone who denies it's a problem is just ignoring the fact that these girls lives are way harder than they have to be now because they had kids "proud parents" or not.
You people calling these girls and their kids "shit turds" are just as retarded. Badmouth them all you want or bitch about what a horrible burden they are upon little old you, but, hello, youre not the one with a kid to feed... armchair criticism... And what solutions are you offering anyway?
Condoms should be free made available at all schools starting in 8th grade. Parents should talk to their kids about sex BEFORE they're pregnant, blablabla... what else is there to say? It's one of MANY MANY problems with poor people in the city. But they're still basically just teenagers who didn't think ahead and made a stupid decision. These girl's lives are hard and sad. I don't envy them.
Subject: who loves you baby?
Date: Sep 22 2006 08:22:42 PM
Author: telly savalas
"It is a shitty circumstance they are in being as young as they are"
Bullshit, they made these stupid choices themselves, one of them had two kids before she was 18!
keep your legs crossed and save me the sob stories.
If they can ban alchohol and cigarette sales before 18 and also not let you vote, then surely they must do something to prevent these kids having babies.
You should be required to pass a series of tests to see if you're fit to be a parent, just like they do for driving.
Subject: Nads
Date: Sep 22 2006 07:19:59 PM
Author: Removal
The first chicks got a mow on her forehead
Subject: LT
Date: Sep 22 2006 07:18:26 PM
Author: chill out
I am racist is now. Interesting how that happened. Slow down a second and stop reading between the line. Ok check it out Vanessa...what I did there, was lump a group of people together, you know the rich white woman on antidepressants?? And I targeted them for comment. Just as the article above does about young black women. Do you follow me so far? Are you sure? Ok then...one should be focusing on the fact that these women are proud parents doing their best to raise their children. It is a shitty circumstance they are in being as young as they are. But they are home doing the hard task of parenting. I respect that over the ladies I was referring to, in reference to them choosing another person to do their "job" as the are hired for. Yes I am aware there are not as many of these white rich women...My point was clearly overlooked.
And frankly the answer is "education". Not throwing condoms or pills towards the masses.
I am no pro life gal, but I will never bless abortion.
Wait one more thing. How do you know these women are taking money from your pocket? That is narrow thinking.
Subject: White chicks
Date: Sep 22 2006 06:57:59 PM
Author: talkiy mcspeaky
If you want to find a ton of under age white chicks pushing around baby prams, go to Dublin where abortion is ileagal. If your lucky, you can sneak out of your catholic home and board an abortion ship off-shore where international doctors will fix you right up. But Nooooo. That's bad right. To breed more poor and illiterate people who's only contribution to soceity is to keep the cigerrette companies, beer brewers, and cops in buisness.
Why don't you need a permit to have a kid. Maybe pass a test that proves your not a shit bag and that you want to have a kid?
Subject: LT
Date: Sep 22 2006 05:53:47 PM
Author: Vanessa
...the rich bitches fucked up on antidepressants throwing her kids into the hands of a nanny, so they can drink and tennis with their country club friends. "There are plenty of those to go around, but you don't see anyone talking shit about them."
I can't believe I'm about to defend the "rich." You're a fucking jagoff LT. No one's "talking shit about THEM ("rich bitches")" because there are no tax dollars of responsible people going to sustain their baby making addiction, you ignorant asswipe. Who cares what a person's lifestyle is as long as they get their kids raised without having to reach into my wallet? Nannies? Big deal. At least they're giving someone a job instead of stealing money from good people. Oh, and do you really believe that every white, financially responsible mother is as cold as you believe them to be? Listen to yourself. You're retarded. Three cheers for condoms, patches, pills, vasectomies, tubal ligations, and the blessed abortion. Mother Earth hates all these baby making machines, you impotent, racist, cowardly, piece of shit tool. You're the worst.
Subject: baby --pardon my spelling
Date: Sep 22 2006 05:36:16 PM
Author: black woman no.9
Um, yeah black and raised in the hood for the formative years of my life. As soon as I saw this article I felt sad. My younger sister had her son in her teens and she just dumps the baby on our great aunt or our mother I live far enough away now to not have any part of that but as far as it goes--I've made it to 24 w/no kids where's my medal. The girls it's mostly their and the boys fault but some of the parents are enablers. Tough love didn't work, whats next castration? sterilization? Welfare is paid for by us the taxpayer. Even one job cutting hair, or retail is not going to pay for everything one or two children need. I feel your pain b/c i have no choice.
Subject: mockery? I think not.
Date: Sep 22 2006 05:13:10 PM
Author: LT
Isn't it great being white, well educated and middle class? Only because it automatically gives us the right to pass judgement and think we know everything there is to know. I can't believe that one woman has never even been to a club. Blasphemy.
These women should be respected. They are all proud parents. Much more so than the rich bitches fucked up on antidepressants throwing her kids into the hands of a nanny, so they can drink and tennis with their country club friends. There are plenty of those to go around, but you don't see anyone talking shit about them.
Subject: race
Date: Sep 22 2006 04:55:47 PM
Author: kuk sool lost
whoa. who said it was racist? the question was why do they only feature racial minorities?
makes sense: since none of the questions posed relate to race, why only racial minorities? it's a stretch to think that a magazine that has the resources to get in touch with a "black market nuclear warhead" dealer couldn't find young white unmarried mothers?
Subject: baby's with baby's
Date: Sep 22 2006 03:23:41 PM
Author: person
yeah. i have a sister in this position, younger sister. She was 19 when she had her child and is now turning 21 in january. Shes dumb as a rock. Dillusional and stubborn, and its always funny how these dumb girls who get themselves in these positions always come up with the most absurd and self serving explanations to justify their actions. Look at their priorities, she hasnt been to a club or bar or this or that, they have completely missed that middle stage, becoming an adult period in their life, they took the fast track to complete adulthood yet still lack the intelligence level. Meanwhile, smart people arent producing enough smart babies and in the process are being rubbed out genetically by these stupid, simple minded young fools that still cling on to some bullshit religious theories that was passed down by their parents how abortion is wrong, or when u get pregnant its god sent. bullshit, its science u shittit.
Subject: abort
Date: Sep 22 2006 03:31:51 PM
Author: smash
minorities are generally religious idiots that do not believe in abortion.
Subject: Maybe
Date: Sep 22 2006 02:45:28 PM
Author: Waterface
it has to do with the fact that Vice knows it's controversial enough to get people all fired up, and those people will post comments, and other people will post more comments, and then Vice can show those hit numbers to Diesel and get more ad money and post more Diesel ads and buy more Escalades.
Yeah, I'm looking at you, Suroosh.
Subject: !
Date: Sep 22 2006 03:00:42 PM
Author: DO*EM*DIRTY
I LIVE IN NEW YORK AND I SEE THIS SHIT EVERY FUCKIN DAY ITS FUCKING TIRED ALLREADY BABYS HAVING BABYS AND PARENTS NOT RAISING THERE CHILDREN TO KNOW THAT ITS NOT FUCKIN COOL TO HAVE CHILDREN WHEN YOUR A TEENAGER THIS SHIT SADDENS ME SERIOUSLY THANK GOD II DONT HAVE ANY CHILDREN AND IM 28!
Subject: Just what the world needs now
Date: Sep 22 2006 03:14:09 PM
Author: T
I agree completely w/the last comment. Instead of dropping bombs elsewhere in the world we oughtta drop boxes of condoms in places where the poorest and/or most ignorant people keep breeding. That not only goes for the ghetto-est of our major cities, but also for the redneck-est white trash breeding grounds of the USA (like suburban Indiana.)
Subject: Racist? Nope
Date: Sep 22 2006 03:00:43 PM
Author: Eldridge Contardi
The funny thing is, I don't think VICE is trying to be racist at all, at least not in this retardo photo spread. It seems like they're struggling to make these gals seem noble. I'd venture that VICE is trying to demonstrate to some shoe company who markets an "urban" product that VICE deserves their advertising moolah. Don't ever forget that advertising dollars are much more important to VICE than anything resembling the truth.
The fact remains that there's nothing noble about these gals. You can't paint a turd. These "women" are walking pieces of shit who are breeding more little turdlings. That's why it SEEMS racist...pictures of irresponsible, illiterate cum-buckets holding their squirming progeny always tend to seem racist.
Subject: because...
Date: Sep 22 2006 02:37:42 PM
Author: rascist joe
becuase minorities are the only ones who have kids when they're kids, them and stupid white trash.
Subject: -phobic
Date: Sep 22 2006 02:32:58 PM
Author: Dru
Don't you know? VICE is xenophobic, homophobic, hobophobic, panophobic, etc. so they bash and misreprsent everything through a narrow world view!
Subject: subjects
Date: Sep 22 2006 02:12:41 PM
Author: kuk sool won
why are there only minorities featured?
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