well, this is just one of many methods of securing the sole right to mate with your female. it also is done to make sure you are the father of whatever comes out of that woman. it is ONE way to do that, not the best and not something i agree with.
it's crazy that some countries are so poor they can't afford paternities tests! i'm outraged and appalled! dear lord!
and africa ain't the cradle of civilization. if you're white you'll say "well, what about the tigris and euphrathes"??! and you're partially right. most people think humanity started in the pl
Subject: cliterectomy Date: Jun 03 2007 12:13:23 PM Author: kara
they did this here in the late 1800s to cure female hysteria.
Subject: fuck cultural relativity PC bullshit Date: Feb 28 2007 06:31:45 PM Author: hexane the evolution girl
This is so guys can make sure their woman doesn't fuck around. By ruining sex for her.
PS: A culture that does this is a SHITTY FUCKING CULTURE
Subject: fgm Date: Feb 12 2007 12:29:21 PM Author: EvilSamurai
FGM disgusting. Anyone who practices or advocates it should be shot on site. FGM is almost at the same level as say child molestation. also that grandmother deserves to be killed ancient chinese 1000 cuts style for what she did.
The difference being that botox is something done WILLINGLY by the girl, you moron.
Subject: cultural appropriation please.... Date: Feb 07 2007 10:44:30 PM Author: annoyed k
Some people here would think that injecting the most acutely toxic chemical known in your face for the sake of vanity is culturally acceptable...
In my opinion, both procedures are scary and are opressing to women (one more than the other) and some of these cheaply prejudice comments are ridiculous. To think people like you are privileged enough to read and write...
Get a life. Stay in school.
Subject: yall Date: Feb 06 2007 10:34:10 AM Author: morf
wow, how stupid most of you are..
i like to quit reading vice knowing that people like youre reading it an worse maybe ts written for pieces of shit like you.. bah
hate ya
Subject: This Date: Feb 01 2007 09:07:38 AM Author: Me
I purchased an entire restaurant-size Hellman's mayonnaise jar full of circumsized clits on E-Bay. When people come over to my house I put a few of them (which I first dip in lavender honey) out in a small dish on the coffee table and say they they're a type of dried gummy bear.
After they eat a few I say, "Guess what...Those are African clits". You can imagine their surprise.
Then I say, "I won't keep you long. I'll KEEP YOU FOREVER"
Subject: ! Date: Jan 30 2007 01:11:39 PM Author: man man
people are really stupid. ive heard of some indiginious tribes that still do fuckt up shit, but this takes the cake.
Subject: Just getting by... Date: Jan 29 2007 06:15:43 PM Author: Pay attention...
I do not think anyone here was talking about "MGM" and how we all accept it. Furthermore, one of the common forms of FGM is clitoridectomy, which involves removal of the entire clitoris. This would be the same as removing the head of the penis in men, not simply the foreskin. Infibulation is where the clitoris is removed, and the outer edges of the labia are cut off and stiched together to form scar tissue to prevent intercourse. This is then cut open after marriage to allow the husband his rightful 'access.' You are mistaken if you think that the even milder form where the hood of the clitoris is removed is the most common practice of FGM. You are also mistaken to think that FGM and MGM are by any means the same. They are not even close.
Subject: all Date: Jan 29 2007 02:35:10 PM Author: just getting by
The reasoning as far as Ive been able to learn for FGM is almost the same as for MGM, in a lot of cultures its to make them more feminine or more masculine (respectivly) or it can be a purifacation ritual, it can be a rite of passage into adulthood. Every culture that practices FGM also practices MGM, and in those cultures usualy the methods (in terms of cutting instuments, sanitation, ect.) are the same and the health risks are about the same. MGM is equivalent to the most comon forms of FGM (though obviously infibulation is worse than most circumcisions) and does remove some of the most erogonus tissue, and the most erogonus nerves as well as changing the mechanics of sex for that male forever. Even if you dont believe that MGM is as big of a problem as FGM one point you should pay attention to if you oppose FGM is that by condoning MGM and abohing FGM we come off as hypocrites and that hurts the cause for abolishing FGM.
Subject: Julia Date: Jan 29 2007 10:38:02 AM Author: commentat
julia you are fuckin stupid, but so are many women with small tits
Subject: Healthy relationships Date: Jan 29 2007 07:24:20 AM Author: Blah
How can you have a healthy relationship when you have a hole the size of a pea to pee, menstruate and have sex through?
Subject: Brian Date: Jan 29 2007 04:28:08 AM Author: luce
Because, you fuckhead, male circumcision doesn't involve removing the central point of sexual stimuli from the patient's genitals. Randomly snipping off clits left and right will land you with a generation of pussies that will never let you fuck them.
Subject: why not? Date: Jan 28 2007 07:03:19 PM Author: Brian
Since MGM is accepted in hospitals now [and it shouldn't be] why not make a surgery similar to male circumcision, but for girls. So then we wouldn't have to worry about botched female circumcisions in random houses and shit.
If the same aimless, blind decision can be done to male infants, why not girls?
Subject: i'm not sure Date: Jan 28 2007 06:07:07 PM Author: julia!
I studied FGM's a little bit in a womens lit class, and i still don't know how I feel. It sounds disgusting, brutal, dangerous, (and more negative adjectives) but lets put this in perspective. There have been cases where women haven't gotten infections and have had healthy relationships. And implants and other gross methods of beauty "enhancement" in America, like those haven't resulted badly with infections etc? it seems like a terrible rite, but com'on now, we have bad rites too, here in 'merica.
Subject: ... Date: Jan 27 2007 07:21:21 PM Author: The Disbeliever
'K.
I'm sure reason will go far with these folks. They seem real receptive.
And Rambo was ex-Green Beret. His arsenal included a bit more than a stick.
I merely suggested a bonk upside the head. But maybe you're right. Hell, if they can take the pain of a sliced vag, maybe you would need something stronger to get their attention.
Subject: also Date: Jan 27 2007 01:17:28 PM Author: whut
Major props to "Blah", peace corps, community workers, and ppl who are actually THERE in the trenches doing shit and interacting for change instead of rightously shaking your fist from a continent away. Fight on, you shithead.
Subject: disbeliever, get over yourself Date: Jan 27 2007 01:16:49 PM Author: whut
Recognizing that stuff like FGM is awful and uneccessary is fucking OBVIOUS when you're completely removed from the situation and have the benefit of distance. And when all youre doing is crying Oh Horror! it's self-indulgent and fucking retarded. Honestly, you read an article in a fashion magazine and decided that lobbing off part of a little girl's vagina is like totally brutal and like cruelty or something... way to go out on a limb and take a stand, your moral compass is astounding. You think this is a new issue? Fuckin Oprah had a special on this, and I'm sure she felt just as self-rightous afterwards as you do now. "I'll talk, I'll listen to reason, but ultimately the bat in my hand'll get the point across if words don't." Are you fucking kidding? Yeah, good luck Rambo... If that's honestly how you think it'll go down then you really are dumb and a chauvinist too. Believe it or not, the idea that women have rights is also "just culture". But that doesnt mean you wouldnt sacrifice everything to make sure they didnt go anywhere. And believe it or not, there a people, women even and women not so different from yourself, who feel the same way about FGM. That's not the same thing as saying that FGM is unassailable, it's being mature enough to understand the good people will do awful things b/c everyone else is, just like the nazis, just like the taliban, and just like you.
Subject: Ruby Date: Jan 27 2007 12:57:30 PM Author: Dave
So I guess we should draw arbitrary lines regarding whose cultural is accepted and whose is not? Who makes the decision on which culture is right? You? So, the cultural relativist argument is absurd, but suggesting that we can all find a happy medium in these barbaric cultural practices by understanding the 'context,' as you suggest, is not?
Subject: ... Date: Jan 27 2007 11:06:51 AM Author: The Disbeliever
I know what side of the fence I'm on. You, not so much.
I'm furious that women play a hand in their own victimization by proliferating ignorance under the guise of tradition.
Of course we can't just walk into Africa and say, Hey, people, you're fucking stupid, we're taking your rites [not rights] away.
I see you, too, are well versed in the power of patronization. Thanks for that.
But while we smooth the road so as not to ruffle tribal feathers, the violence keeps happening. Find a faster way.
The difference is in approach. You appear to want to sit down and talk it out.
I've always been a big fan of Teddy Roosevelt. I'll talk, I'll listen to reason, but ultimately the bat in my hand'll get the point across if words don't.
Or in this case, the screams of little girls.
Subject: the disbeliever Date: Jan 27 2007 10:03:28 AM Author: Ruby
one more thing: you said earlier that education is the enemy of FGM.
i think we may be in agreement here, though i enjoy a good debate...
i'm an Irish woman from a catholic family, and so i understand only too well how a dominant belief system can marginalise women. i also know that culture is a dynamic thing, and change occurs through education, understanding, and protest...
so keep fighting the good fight, through which ever means you believe to be appropriate
Subject: the disbeliever Date: Jan 27 2007 09:47:43 AM Author: Ruby
i absolutely agree with you, that over-philosphising and spending too long "understanding the context" results in a sort of academic impotence, and that justifying something because it represents a part of culture is simplistic and can permit harmful behaviour against vulnerable victims who are denied a voice.
i don't want to suggest that FGM is justified by its context, but that actions to eradicate it will be a lot more effective if its context is understood.
This is why human rights organisations employ anthropologists.
Also, taking such a patronising tone will only alienate people who may otherwise have been receptive to your argument.
Subject: ... Date: Jan 27 2007 09:19:28 AM Author: The Disbeliever
No, darlin.
Actually, exactly what you're saying is that because FGM sits in the context of culture, we should all take pause and put the knife play above reproach.
Which is precisely the thinking that enables others to pull off this masochistic bullshit, masquerading as the ooh-aah fake mystery of mythology.
Irish Catholic women were denied divorce from abusive spouses, and forced to stay against their will and to the detriment of their own safety.
Culture.
There's no difference. Pressure from the town, pressure from the church, pressure from the community.
The end result is the same. Yet another woman is told what to do by some group of fuckwits who wants everyone to follow the same rules.
If you can't fathom the difference, you're as bad as they are.
While you're out getting laid, enjoying the O, and wasting time getting academic and "understanding the context", more kids get cut against their will.
There are people who act, and there are those who sit home and read about it. Do us a favor, relegate yourself to the second bin, and get the hell out of the way.
Subject: Dave Date: Jan 27 2007 07:04:47 AM Author: Ruby
taking cultural relativism to its extreme as you have done is going to reduce any argument to absurdities.
There are, of couse, normative rights that transcend culture and nobody is arguing that FGM is desireable. i was simply suggesting that we understand the context in which it occurs BEFORE dismissing it as nothing more than primitive misogynistic violence.
Subject: FGM Date: Jan 26 2007 06:08:34 PM Author: Dave
Look, let's be clear. FGM is simply the most extreme method of male domination and control over female sexuality. Sure, you can argue that women get nose jobs because they are made to believe that your face should be perfect if you are going to snag a man. Also, you can argue that women need to diet to excess because to be thin is to be beautiful. But, you cannot argue that a 45 year old Jewish woman getting a nose job is the same as hacking off the genitals of a 5 year old kid, then having her bed-ridden for months trying to fight off death due to infection.
For those of you who state that we "cannot judge other cultures" because everyone is so very special in their own way, fuck off. I guess that means we cannot say what happened in Rwanda was bad right? I guess we cannot say the Holocaust was inappropriate right? Get a clue.
Subject: Jesus H Date: Jan 26 2007 07:58:44 AM Author: The Disbeliever
Look, I don't know how much clearer I can be.
You picked up on the quotes/trivializing thing, good. It was intentional.
I don't care what grandma where thinks it's OK. There's a ridiculously huge glaring difference between belief, tradition, and celebration, and actions and trends people pass off as culture/religion that involve violence against kids.
Just to see if I was a bubble off center, I asked my half dozen friends from Kenya and they assured me that their tribes at home had recognized the error of their ways years ago. That their sisters and mothers have been safe from such barbarism for decades.
Why? Because tribal elders and the whole damn community have picked up on the fact that slicing up defensive kids is fucked up. That playing the superstition-as-religion card with a knife is perhaps not the most enlightened way to treat their women.
Education, medicine, science, and justice are the enemies of FGM, so please, pack up a textbook, stethoscope, microscope, and some scales and spread the word.
We are human beings. We are capable of making decisions about our own lives. All I'm saying is give people the option to say yes or no, don't do it for them. Otherwise, we might as well give up our rights, get back in the kitchen, and shut our mouths forever.
It's just culture.
Subject: FGM vs. Cosmetic surgery Date: Jan 26 2007 03:48:33 AM Author: Blah
The people here likening FGM to cosmetic surgery are using arguements that women who uphold their right to continue this practice often use in Britain. As in, who are the British government to tell anyone that FGM is immoral when they allow plastic surgery. Ruby is right, it's all well and good for us Westerners to tell people that their culture is wrong and that these women have been brainwashed when we have no experience of the traditions and cultural influences that inform and back up this practice in the wider world.
That said, I am strongly against FGM as it is a practice carried out on little girls who have no say in the matter and often with disastrous results (a five year old girl died last year as a result of her injuries, and I am sure she was not the only one) that can last a lifetime.
If you are appauled and upset by this practice, go to www.forwarduk.org.uk read more and donate funds. This is a tiny London based charity (with projects in Africa) who have been doing good work for over 20 years. Make your voices heard.
www.forwarduk.org.uk
Subject: disbeliever Date: Jan 26 2007 01:26:21 AM Author: whut
putting "culture" in quotes like that sort of trivializes it. It's not like they're trying to trick horrified westerners into looking the other way so they can ghoulishly torture their grand-daughters. The grandma in the testimonial REALLY REALLY thinks that this is absolutely normal and necessary and, on top of that, actually thinks that everyone else is fucked up for NOT doing this... try and wrap your brain around THAT... same for all those other things you mentioned. They're all normal average people doing fucked up shit without even recognizing it as being fucked up. Hey, it's not so different here... Not defending FGM, btw, but saying "OMG FUCKED UP" is the easy part, and somebody out there prolly thinks you're pretty fucked up yourself.
Anyway, judging by how these women feel about it, this is something that'll probably disappear on its own in a few generations as societies modernize.
so yeah, PEOPLE ARE FUCKING STRANGE.
Subject: miss Date: Jan 25 2007 08:35:48 PM Author: moss
Way to call bullshit on sexism though Vice. Why don't you let the little genius that wrote that piece check this one out.
Subject: i love my vajayjay Date: Jan 25 2007 08:17:59 PM Author: tina marie
oh my fucking god what kind of shit is that? why would you do that!!!? oh shit that blood makes it look so very painfull
Subject: second part Date: Jan 25 2007 08:15:42 PM Author: The Disbeliever
Nobody in Beverly Hills is dragging a screaming kid into a liposuction clinic. All of us, every day, are bombarded by the fashion industry, the food industry, and influences that try to bend us to their will.
But an ounce of backbone can stave off those forces, whereas a 50-lb second grader doesn't have a chance in hell of escaping the grip of an elder with a scalpel. Especially when steel is coupled with the fear of failure and disgrace for not participating in ritual torture passed off as "culture".
Nazism was a "culture". Binding feet was part of a "culture". Keeping women uneducated, covered from public view, and out of reach of the rights afforded to men is part of a "culture".
Fine. But unless you pitch those ideas to adults with free will who have an actual opportunity to either accept, or refuse and go their own way, there is no justification for making the decision for them.
Subject: ... Date: Jan 25 2007 08:13:16 PM Author: The Disbeliever
Characterize plastic surgery with whatever terms you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it's VOLUNTARY.
Women can chop themselves at will -- bigger boobs, fewer ribs, puffier lips, what-fucking-ever, but it's THEIR CHOICE.
FGM is perpetrated on children. It's a decision made without their input. It's violent, oft-times permanently damaging, physical manipulation performed without consent.
I understand what you're saying, I do. We kooky Westerners, with our pressure to look and live a certain way can be disgusting in our own right, sure. It could be conceived that we brainwash girls to believe that the only way to earn the equivalent of tribal esteem is to nip and tuck their ways to acceptance.
But that would be cherry-picking facts to suit a false argument.
Subject: the disbeliever Date: Jan 25 2007 06:31:19 PM Author: Ruby
how can you extend the concept of cultural control to female circumcision and not to the "consensual" cosmetic genital mutilation that is prevalent in our culture?
Like i said, i'm not pedalling an ideaology here, but i'd like to open a dialogue that is tolerant of diverse cultural practices without making dangerous assumptions about right and wrong...
If you squint and stare really hard, you can probably see the shark you jumped like eight years ago!
Then again, if your readers are so dumbassed that they need a grade 7 book report to hear about FGM, they deserve to read a magazine that uses British single-mom cameltoe pics to advertise American Apparel.
I'd use your mag to line a birdcage, but only wanks like you all are post-ironic hipster enough to actually own a bird.
Subject: ... Date: Jan 25 2007 09:36:46 AM Author: The Disbeliever
Not a single one of these testimonials -- and I'm going to go out on a big limb and say the vast majority of females on the receiving end of this butchery, hence the article, the foundation, and the worldwide horror at such a practice -- described a willing participant.
These were kids. Held down. Against their will. To have their sex lives ended before they began.
In the name of what. Cultural control.
The sheer ignorance of comparing a grown adult woman deciding to have surgical enhancement against an 8-year old getting her clit hacked off in a back bedroom is the kind of simplistic idiocy one would expect at a middle school lunch table.
If you want to do some research and get back to us on the validity of this act's cultural significance, knock yourself out.
But spare us the bullshit.
Silicone tits on a 22-year old is not the same thing as a child's libido on the chopping block.
Subject: Mutilation Date: Jan 25 2007 09:15:45 AM Author: Miss Woo
This is horrific. Those poor girls...
Subject: Thank you Date: Jan 25 2007 09:10:59 AM Author: Michael
Let us give a hand for ruby.
Subject: Enthnocentricism Date: Jan 25 2007 05:41:46 AM Author: Ruby
Female circumcision has a profound cultural significance, with many young girls not feeling as though they are fully a woman until they have undergone the procedure.
it is pretty easy for us to look at it from the window of our own culture and dismiss it as barbaric and misogynistic, but let's try to understand how many of our own practices, such as breast augmentation and other popular forms of cosmetic surgery, would be regarded by other cultures.
Some women from our culture choose to have their genitals mutilatated by surgeons because they believe it will make them more attractive to men who have grown up conditioned by the pornstar aesthetic. We justify this by saying it is the woman's choice and right to do so, but degree of choice can be a hard thing to measure.
I am not condemning women who undergo cosmetic surgery, nor am i condoning female circumcision, but it might have been interesting if Vice had balanced this article with the stories of women who have not been emmigrants, or otherwise influenced by western culture.
This is not brainwashing, it's called enculturation, and it's what makes us who we are...
Subject: dumbass Date: Jan 24 2007 11:32:36 PM Author: Brian
Hey Gentile, it only takes like 10 more fucking seconds to clean your dick. I bet you don't even wash down there.
Subject: under the knife Date: Jan 24 2007 03:59:04 PM Author: moot mouth
i was born in babruysk, Belarus. its v close to chernobyl. in my village there has been many severe deformities. i was born with a vagina inside my mouth, and part on my forehead and neck, for the first five years of my life i used my clit as a tongue, but thanks to modern medicine i was able to have it removed and replaced with a synthetic tongue fashioned from old soup can labels. (is joke) although i cant form vowels or chew gum, i am happier this way,....
i feel sorry for sarahs mums tits...
the iron curtain flicker
Subject: Information about FGM Date: Jan 24 2007 10:37:43 AM Author: Blah
Anyone with any questions about FGM or interesting into making donations to a charity campaigning to stop the practice in the UK and abroad go to www.forwarduk.org.uk
Subject: No Johannes Date: Jan 24 2007 10:32:12 AM Author: Blah
FGM in any of it's forms is not Muslim practice, there is no mention of it being a requirement in the Koran. Christian communities and those with no ties to any religion still practice it. The reasons for it's practice are varied (varying between different communities and regions within the same country) and cannot be simplified by religion.
Subject: nightmare Date: Jan 24 2007 08:32:24 AM Author: The Disbeliever
I wonder... are children targets because they can't defend themselves?
'Cause I'm trying to think of an 8-year old American kid I know who wouldn't kick, scream, bite, fight, and run for it if someone made a move toward her zipper with a knife in hand.
I couldn't care less what religious or cultural hoodoo one cares to couch this bullshit in, it's damage pure and simple. And damage of a defenseless child. And that is fucked up beyond all measure.
Subject: Subject Date: Jan 24 2007 04:41:04 AM Author: Name
It would be shameful to ignore this - it would give the bastards who do this the impression that they can do more, it would send a message of weakness and submission to the world and it would be used by extremists on the right as a blunt way to criticize all immigrants. The enlightened have to show that it means business when it comes to human rights, even when the breaches aren't made by white people.
Subject: "designer labia" Date: Jan 24 2007 02:31:55 AM Author: anyway...
I think that headline is supposed to be offensive. It's supposed to piss you off. It's supposed to unnerve you and disarm you to a point where you get passionate about the subject matter of the rest of the article. It has clearly done its work.
Subject: men only have death- women are amazing. Date: Jan 23 2007 11:46:57 PM Author: monika
everything your comment said was on par.
thats great that somepeople realize that.
Subject: men only have death Date: Jan 23 2007 11:08:44 PM Author: women are amazing
well as it turns out, male genetalia is just an enlarged clitoris all men are born women then change into men! this is an amazing fact, plus the realization that the closest bond any human being (male or female ) can evre truly have is with there mum, since you where literally inside her for nine months, thats why i used to respect women, so kids respect your ,mum cuz yknow that empty hole that you feel sometimes waiting for a bliss that you once hadorget, well that memory of bliss could only probably be produced in death or in the womb..aw fuck what the hell am i talking about.
Subject: 666 Date: Jan 23 2007 09:53:27 PM Author: brandon
"I can't decide if i'm more nauseated by female genital mutilation or by the flippant way you frame these personal narratives."
hahahahaha!
Subject: elephant in the room Date: Jan 23 2007 09:09:30 PM Author: Johannes
Isn't it safe to say that clitorectomy is by and large an African MUSLIM practice, which then gets imported into other countries? Thanks for self-sensoring little dhimmis.
Let's get straight to the fucking point here folks, people who condone shit like female castration are outbreeding people who don't. As a matter of fact, people who don't partake in female castration because it's illegal but who would like to if it were legal are outbreeding those who find it repugnant no matter what. This is the future.
Subject: damn Date: Jan 23 2007 05:13:27 PM Author: pisa
Subject: wikipedia Date: Jan 23 2007 12:22:04 PM Author: clitinerd
wikipedia says that in some areas the clitoris is considered "masculine" and for a girl to be considered a full woman it has to be removed (forskin on guys is considered "feminine" and is also removed in mid-childhood for the same reason). They also do it to ensure that the girl stays a virgin and doesn't sleep around. In more extreme versions of it they actually sow everything shut after the main op except for a pee/period hole until she's married when her in-laws 'open' it before consummation. It's mostly practiced in North and East Africa and is also called "pharaonic circumcision" because it is believed to have originated in Ancient Egypt. Barf.
Subject: big floppy bag o' dicks Date: Jan 23 2007 10:13:54 AM Author: slop
somebody care to explain why vice is recycling old material? and why they arent even repeating shit from when the magazine was still interesting?
Subject: viagra Date: Jan 23 2007 08:21:08 AM Author: nick
keep it up
Subject: junior high reply Date: Jan 22 2007 10:13:54 PM Author: jessica
stephanie is a slut who thinks she is hot shit and always has
Subject: WOW Date: Jan 22 2007 08:24:21 PM Author: 3507321C
I DID NOT KNOW THAT.
Subject: FGM Date: Jan 22 2007 07:53:55 PM Author: KalashniKEV
Everyone knows this is why all Black Guys wanna date White Chicks.
We need to stop this shit NOW! I'm starting a chainletter on my myspace!
Subject: this is Date: Jan 22 2007 07:08:11 PM Author: not cool
I think I read about female circumcision in Vice years ago. I never thought I'd say this, but fuck - take it a little seriously. The 'designer labia' thing is a weak joke to begin with - if you've got something off-color to say, at least make it clever. And for fuck sake why didn't you at least say why they do it? You had room enough to print the picture and the most popular girl shit, but not any kind of explanation. Jesus, I just turned into that guy...the only messages I've really posted on here before were usually talking shit about people who were offended by an article.
Subject: dark continent Date: Jan 22 2007 06:48:13 PM Author: zzzzzzzzzzzz
Africa- cradle of civil-i-zayshun!
Subject: lame Date: Jan 22 2007 05:31:35 PM Author: jm
you know vice magazine, i really enjoy your witty, snarky editorial voice. but the headline and lead for this article are beyond inappropriate. I can't decide if i'm more nauseated by female genital mutilation or by the flippant way you frame these personal narratives.
Subject: unreal Date: Jan 22 2007 05:11:50 PM Author: wwmd
keep africa out of the civilized world please. fuck.
Subject: gotti Date: Jan 22 2007 04:42:02 PM Author: potty
what the fuck do women need a clit for anyways?
it's not like 99% of dudes even know where it is let alone how to properly stimulate it
and if you're a lesbian, why even bother living?
Subject: lame. Date: Jan 22 2007 04:04:03 PM Author: thats
wait wait. ( goes to be sick in a bucket)
Subject: true. Date: Jan 22 2007 03:59:41 PM Author: polly
jane, in agreement. "gentile", are you trying to make a comparison? don't think so. the clitoris is what would have turned into a penis. all those wonderful nerve endings = destroyed.
Subject: no foreskin Date: Jan 22 2007 03:40:48 PM Author: gentile
and i like it. it's not barbaric, it saves me time in the shower.
Subject: nauseous Date: Jan 22 2007 03:36:14 PM Author: Ugh
i feel sad, like this :(
Subject: FGM Date: Jan 22 2007 03:27:45 PM Author: jane
What exactly is the cultural resoning behind this? I think male circumcision is barbric but i can understand how the tradition came about. This seems to serve no end but to stop the women from getting any pleasure from sex. It's disgusting.
Subject: ojn Date: Jan 22 2007 02:30:25 PM Author: dam
i feel pretty bad for sarah and her kids...id cut my mother's tits off..
Subject: jack yo body! Date: Jan 22 2007 02:08:39 PM Author: pm
#1?
Fuck being thin and good looking. Most girls just want to hang around with plump bearded guys who are hilarious at parties and always have coke. If this guy was famous he’d probably be able to fuck them as well.
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